More "Do as I say, not as I do" from the religious right

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www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gkzL-yKLwhNjJeXBMCZODK0KbQnAD98SNLKO1

For much of his public career, Sen. John Ensign has appeared a model of the religious right. By this week, he had become just another politician diminished by scandal. Rattled, humbled and alone at the podium, Ensign acknowledged to reporters an extramarital affair, the sort of moral failing he's criticized in the past.

The Nevada Republican once called on President Bill Clinton to resign, declaring "the truth must come out." In October 2007, he was sharply critical of former Sen. Larry Craig, of Idaho, calling the Republican's arrest in an airport bathroom sex sting "embarrassing for the Senate."

Hypocrite!

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Mike
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/17/sen-ensign-resigns-gop-leadership-post-admitting-affair/

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[penniless 0]

I suggest you look up "hypocrite" in the dictionary, as you seem quite unclear on the concept.

Here's a little hint: It doesn't mean putting your foot in your mouth.

[mnealtx 0]

Oh, I'm so sorry - I was following your posting style.

Maybe Mr. Ensign was following the marriage style of Mr. Clinton, Mr. Edwards, Reverend Jackson.... of course, Mr. Ensign had the class to RESIGN his position - something the Dems never seem to do.

Mike
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[lawrocket 3]

Of course! I've found a general rule that those who openly speak out against one form of personal conduct or another for whatever moral or societal reason - from either right or left - are most likely to be engaging in it.

An anti-drug activist got busted in Los Angeles for selling drugs last week. Yep. Actually, it was gank.

A Nobel Peace Prize winner for his work on the environment flies private jets and uses more dirty energy in his house in a month than an average home uses in a year. Yet, there is justification for it.

These are not surprising. Or shocking. There's a democratic congressman who's bribery trial just started.

WHo is suprised by these things anymore? It should be no shock.

In fact, a study released a couple of years ago in the Journal of Applied Psychology found a link between hypocris and high morals. the study found that a feeling of moral superiority is a substantial factor leading to unethical acts. Because these people view themselves as elites and have a superiority, they are able to find justifications and differences in their behaviors.

Often, I think the outward holding onesself out is either a way to deflect attention from what they're doing (he wouldn't do that) or a way to justify to themselves that they are really are a good person.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[billvon 2,471]

I am impressed, Mike! Only 12 minutes for a "democrats did it first" post.

To everyone else -

It's getting to be like a broken record. An evangelist comes out against gay marriage - you know he's paying a gay hooker in cocaine on the side. A candidate blasts their opponent on earmarks - and she's getting them by the truckload. A politician comes out in defense of the "sanctity of marriage" - you gotta know he's doing an intern. And, of course, if he claims that Clinton should have resigned his office over his affair? It's a guarantee he's not going to resign.

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Hopefully, things like this will push the "impose your morality on others" folks to be a bit quieter in the Republican alliance. I think that they alienate a lot of people, and cost the larger group votes by association.

-- Tom Aiello

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I am impressed, Mike! Only 12 minutes for a "democrats did it first" post.

Yeah, it must suck when I show the hypocrisy of the statements, huh?

Physician, heal thyself.

Mike
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[billvon 2,471]

>Yeah, it must suck when I show the hypocrisy of the statements, huh?

It must suck even more to not understand the meaning of the words you use!

[TomAiello 25]

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>Yeah, it must suck when I show the hypocrisy of the statements, huh?

It must suck even more to not understand the meaning of the words you use!

I'm so tempted to give Bill his "one warning"

Must stop posting after so much beer...

-- Tom Aiello

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>Yeah, it must suck when I show the hypocrisy of the statements, huh?

It must suck even more to not understand the meaning of the words you use!

Must be nice to have a green name and be able to make PA's whenever you want, Bill - care to make another one and go for the trifecta?

Racism yesterday, stupidity today - what insult are you going to come up with for tomorrow?

Mike
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[rushmc 18]

Cherry picking is easy. You want a post showing the other side doing what ever the hell they want?

But, I like funny threads, Thanks

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I am impressed, Mike! Only 12 minutes for a "democrats did it first" post.

More like a "democrats did it TOO" post in response to the Obvious Intent of the OP.

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I think Edwards was worse, but this guy should go too unless they forgive him.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

[lawrocket 3]

I don't think anyone was worse than Jesse Jackson. The fact that he knocked up a subordinate while publicizing his efforts to counsel the President about his infidelities just made it hyperhypocrisy.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[yourmomma 0]

I am constantly awed by the blinders people dawn when their concepts of reality are questioned. Two wrongs have never made a right. When anyone invokes the "why not the outrage when your side did it" justification of hypocrisy they do so at the risk of showing the world just how fucking stupid they are.
"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."

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In fact, a study released a couple of years ago in the Journal of Applied Psychology found a link between hypocris and high morals. the study found that a feeling of moral superiority is a substantial factor leading to unethical acts. Because these people view themselves as elites and have a superiority, they are able to find justifications and differences in their behaviors.

Interesting. Do you have a link or remember any of the authors?

/Marg

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Tibetan Buddhist saying

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I am constantly awed by the blinders people dawn when their concepts of reality are questioned. Two wrongs have never made a right.

Well, no shit - show me where I said what Ensign did was right or good?

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When anyone invokes the "why not the outrage when your side did it" justification of hypocrisy they do so at the risk of showing the world just how fucking stupid they are.

Thanks for the PA - would you apply the same insult to those who say "look at what THEY did" while ignoring the people on THEIR side that did the same thing? Or is that reserved for people like me that point out that hypocrisy?

And again - show where I said what Ensign did was right or good.

Mike
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[lawrocket 3]

I'm on my blackberry so no link. I'll try to find it. I think it was toward the end of 07.

Note: another lapse of ethics was often found in "the end justifies the means" morality. It is certainly seen on both right and left. Playing by the rules is no good if it means the end goal is not accomplished.

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More "Do as I say, not as I do" from the religious right

Religious Right? Why is it always the right that are religious? No liberals go to church? I find that hard to believe. Just another blank label on people that comes from the side who say I have to like and accept everyone.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

[yourmomma 0]

I did not intend to reply to you specifically. All thou I understand that replying to your post gave that impression.

"would you apply the same insult to those who say "look at what THEY did" while ignoring the people on THEIR side that did the same thing?"

Yes

I have a question.( I truly do not intend for this to be an attack.) Have you ever taken a critical thinking class?

Edited spelling.

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Have you ever taken a critical thinking class?

Why? Is it a requirement to understand the "nuance" of your post only speaking to one side of the situation?

Mike
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[yourmomma 0]

Why? Is it a requirement to understand the "nuance" of your post only speaking to one side of the situation?

Wow, you're response implies a unequivocal no.

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Wow, you're response implies a unequivocal no.

Perhaps you should explain just what about your post would require any critical thinking skills to decipher. (hence my bit'o'snark about 'nuance')

Mike
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