Skyrad 0 #1 October 22, 2008 Do Animals have emotions like humans do or are they simply reacting to stimilus? I've always believes that they do but have often come across people that argue that animals just react to stiuli and don't have emotions. Whats your view?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klingeme 0 #2 October 22, 2008 I don't care what political party you are for, I am completely against Doing animals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #3 October 22, 2008 I personally believe they do, but heres something to ponder. Aren't emotions just another form of stimuli?Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #4 October 22, 2008 We're just animals... ain't nothing so special about us.. we just had the right breaks further down the evolutionary ladder, that's all. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #5 October 22, 2008 Quote I don't care what political party you are for, I am completely against Doing animals. I was trying to get away from elephants and donkeys!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #6 October 22, 2008 That's a hard one. I believe they may have emotions, but not like us as they are not so in tune with or even understand them. We know what anger and fear is. Since they don't spend time thinking about it and dabbling in philosophy, i believe it's more a stimulus to them. I believe some of the "animals have feelings" comes from anthromorphism of their actions. But a lot of dog trainers like Cesar Millan explain the folly in that_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #7 October 22, 2008 QuoteDo Animals have emotions like humans do or are they simply reacting to stimilus? I've always believes that they do but have often come across people that argue that animals just react to stiuli and don't have emotions. Whats your view? Interesting question! Complexity of emotions that humans can exhibit - no. Neurological, biochemical and physiological behavior that suggests 'emotional responses' - yes. Varies highly across species. Elephants have been observed to mourn the loss of relatives or member of group, for example. To me, it suggests one needs to think about how emotions are defined. VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #8 October 22, 2008 Fear is an emotion. Even stupid chordates exhibit fear. More intelligent animals such as dogs exhibit anxiety, playfulness as well of course as love. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #9 October 22, 2008 90% voted yes so far. Then is this not a holocaust? Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #10 October 22, 2008 Puppy mills are raided and shut down for much less... I won't argue the should we/shouldn't we eat meat here. But don't they deserve much better treatment if they feel emotions like humans do? We know they suffer. Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #11 October 22, 2008 Quote... but not like us as they are not so in tune with or even understand them. Are you sure we are so in tune with or even understand them?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #12 October 22, 2008 Maybe but.... Those animals are just tasty and need to be on my plate.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #13 October 22, 2008 When it comes to acute fear and terror situations, I have not observed much difference in how animals or people react. I think a lot of people minimize the suffering of animals to avoid the emotional consequences of their actions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #14 October 22, 2008 Quoteto avoid the emotional consequences of their actions. yep. Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #15 October 22, 2008 Nope, it's dinner. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #16 October 22, 2008 I feel no remorse when I eat my double cheeseburger or chicken sandwich. We use animals for all kinds of things besides food. Do you own any leather products? I imagine you do. How dare you contribute to the abuse of animals by purchasing their byproducts.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #17 October 22, 2008 Absolutely And humans are simply one species of said animals. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #18 October 22, 2008 QuoteThat's a hard one. I believe they may have emotions, but not like us as they are not so in tune with or even understand them. We know what anger and fear is. Since they don't spend time thinking about it and dabbling in philosophy, i believe it's more a stimulus to them. I believe some of the "animals have feelings" comes from anthromorphism of their actions. But a lot of dog trainers like Cesar Millan explain the folly in that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Since they don't spend time thinking about it and dabbling in philosophy, i believe it's more a stimulus to them. That would address reasoning and cognitive skills rather than emotions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #19 October 22, 2008 Quote 90% voted yes so far. Then is this not a holocaust? Great post ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #20 October 22, 2008 QuoteI feel no remorse when I eat my double cheeseburger or chicken sandwich. We exploit animals for all kinds of things besides food. Do you own any leather products? I imagine you do. How dare you contribute to the abuse of animals by purchasing their byproducts. There, fixed it for ya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #21 October 22, 2008 Quote90% voted yes so far. Then is this not a holocaust? No it is not. It is a simple issue of supply and demand. As long as people are willing to pay for meat then people will be willing to produce it for the lowest cost possible.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #22 October 22, 2008 QuoteDo you own any leather products? I imagine you do. How dare you contribute to the abuse of animals by purchasing their byproducts. WTF is that? Apparently you've got some misdirected indignity. Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #23 October 22, 2008 No, it is an honest question? If you purchase or use any type of animal products then you are part of the problem.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #24 October 22, 2008 Quote I believe they may have emotions, but not like us as they are not so in tune with or even understand them. We know what anger and fear is For years, we always had squirrels raising their families in the trees around my house. Then, three years ago, we "adopted" a young tom cat from the local shelter. From day one, I knew he was a killer. I named him Stanislaw Ulam, the guy who made the hydrogen bomb work (...no offense to Mr. Ulam). For a while, Stanley ate baby squirrels on a regular basis. We no longer have squirrel families in my yard. Not only do they feel emotion, they take deliberate informed action.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #25 October 22, 2008 Quote To me, it suggests one needs to think about how emotions are defined. Exactly. The use of the phrase "human emotions" doesn't do this thread justice.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites