0
TheAnvil

Hello, Senator! From whence cometh those $$?

Recommended Posts

.
Quote

Now, in case you didn't notice, the article I posted was about Sen Obama.



Of course it is...

I guess he just needs to sit down and personally check every contribution that he gets. what a horrible piker he is to not do that.. I know Vinny would do that personally with his extreme attention to minutia.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I would think that both parties would know that political corruption has a demonstrated history, recent and distant, of political corruption.

I would hope that both parties would discuss it openly in order to take steps to cure it. But, since both parties are corrupt, that wouldn't be good.


My wife is hotter than your wife.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

I would think that both parties would know that political corruption has a demonstrated history, recent and distant, of political corruption.

I would hope that both parties would discuss it openly in order to take steps to cure it. But, since both parties are corrupt, that wouldn't be good.




Both parties have a degree of corruption, but thise degrees are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away from each other. The debt is mostly the child of the Repubs, care to argue that? Sexual deviation was exclusively the child of the Dems, now the R's are jumping in.

The R's have taken the cake for so long that they make the Dems look like angels..... we have seen the outcome of that in the last mid-term election, we will see more evidence of that in November.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

we have seen the outcome of that in the last mid-term election, we will see more evidence of that in November.



That would be the folks that immediately went right into the crapper, approval-wise, correct?
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Have you forgotten why the GOP was voted in en masse in 1994? The flagrant corruption. Think William Jefferson is a Republican? Toricelli? Trafficant? Okay. So Trafficant ALMOST was a Republican.

Plenty of Republicans have crashed quite spectacularly as of late. The present Administration is certainly no less corrupt than the previous administration.

Remember the Ron Carey's Teamster and Clinton's presidential campaigns swapping money? Cisneros? Perhaps the Republicans should simply argue that there is "no controlling legal authority" that there is "any violation of any law."

Look - you'll find that the party in charge will be the one with corruption. In the 1990's, the Dems had a near stranglehold on corruption scandals - things like the House Post Office, the campaign finance issues of Dems, etc. In the 1980's, it was Republicans in that position (exception - Keating 5 with McCain as only Republican).

There's no difference. Both are corrupt. Both line their pockets with goodies of the national treasury. Seemingly, the republicans are now simply better at it than the dems. That'll change, too.


My wife is hotter than your wife.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Quote

we have seen the outcome of that in the last mid-term election, we will see more evidence of that in November.



That would be the folks that immediately went right into the crapper, approval-wise, correct?



Once again, that side talking approval ratings....... not such a great area. Congress was under control of the right for most of your Nazis term, ratings were dropping while Bush didn't veto for 5 1/2 years, the Dems just took control and the ratings are still low, give em a chance to get control of congress and the white house, then give em more time. It took Clinton 5 years to turn teh corner on the 250B+ per year deficit, it will take teh Dems time too, but I would just not brag of approval ratings from your side, just doesn't make sense.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Quote

Quote

we have seen the outcome of that in the last mid-term election, we will see more evidence of that in November.



That would be the folks that immediately went right into the crapper, approval-wise, correct?


Once again, that side talking approval ratings....... not such a great area. Congress was under control of the right for most of your Nazis term, ratings were dropping while Bush didn't veto for 5 1/2 years, the Dems just took control and the ratings are still low, give em a chance to get control of congress and the white house, then give em more time. It took Clinton 5 years to turn teh corner on the 250B+ per year deficit, it will take teh Dems time too, but I would just not brag of approval ratings from your side, just doesn't make sense.


First off, any post of yours about the Republicans that mention Nazis from this point on will be ignored unless you also use Socialist to describe the Democrats - fair play and all that. :P

Yes, ratings have been dropping for Congress for the last several years, and they have CONTINUED to drop even though your Socialist Saviors (TM) have taken control - hardly a glowing referral for "the most ethical Congress in history" and their "first 100 hours", now is it?

Give them MORE time? Why? Didn't Pelosi promise manna from heaven for everyone in "the first hundred hours"? Oh, wait...

I don't see any 'brags' on Republican accomplishments in my post - please try to rein back that projection issue you have, thanks.
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[one of] The problem(s) is that we delude our selves that we live in a democracy, but we don't.

In a Democracy political power is held and run by the citizens of the country.

But we live in constitutional democracies which use our elected representatives to exercise that power on our behalves (??) and as we've so often seen, they appear to be doing it for themselves first and us second (if at all).

We really have no one to blame but our selves for letting it happen!!
How do we take that power (our power) back?

  • Well, lets stop paying these people so much. It should be a priveledge to work for you country not a Golden Goose.

  • Let's start to vote for individual policies, not a basket of policies from the big parties, some of which we agree with but others not so much.

  • Let the people decide on ALL major decisions that should be made. Not a very small bunch of people who have their own axe to grind and can be influenced by big business concerns.

    (.)Y(.)
    Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome
  • Share this post


    Link to post
    Share on other sites
    Amen! In the mean-time, we go about our little lives, feeling confident that we have a say in how this country is run. We talk a big talk but, when it gets right down to it, what do we do about it? Grumble, whine... and go-on. Our government throws us little 'scraps' to let us believe they are working hard for us. All one has to do is look at the amount of 'work' our senate and congress really cranks-out! It isn't much.
    You mentioned, voting for 'individual policies' rather than a 'basket of policies'. I have wished for that, for years. 'Riders', there lies a big problem. A congressman can get a rider on a big, important bill and BINGO! We wind-up spending millions on the sex life of some bug or a bike trail in Podunk, Minnesota. As long as we the people allow it and lull ouselves into thinking that all is good, we will continue to have status quo.
    When I said that I worry about this country, what i worry about is, the way we are selling-off our country to foreigners. Not protecting our borders. What gets me is, when I say protect 'our borders', folks take that to mean 'isolationism'. No, not so. We need to know 'who' is entering this country. We are going to lose our soveriegnty! We are gradually giving-up this country to the 'highest bidder' and call it 'business'. We only look at 'today'. That's why, other countries are over-running us in business. Other countries look to years down the road. We're a nation of 'get rich quick' and 'instant gratification'.
    All while wearing rose colored glasses.


    Chuck

    Share this post


    Link to post
    Share on other sites
    Quote


    Give them MORE time? Why? Didn't Pelosi promise manna from heaven for everyone in "the first hundred hours"? Oh, wait...



    I'm not about to say that they're doing a good job but let's take a reality break. They have a simple majority and they are ruling like they have a simple majority. Along with that, the R's are in record obstruction mode.

    The goal as explained by Trent Lott:

    "The strategy of being obstructionist can work or fail...and so far it's working for us. Democrats are taking the blame for not getting anything done."

    (R)Trent Lott, Roll Call, April 18, 2007

    An example

    So my question is, should the Democrats continue to rule as a simple majority or should they follow the 109th's example and claim that a simple majority reflects the "will of the people" and do their best to excluded the minority from any input?

    Share this post


    Link to post
    Share on other sites

    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
    Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

    Guest
    Reply to this topic...

    ×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

      Only 75 emoji are allowed.

    ×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

    ×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

    ×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

    0