ExAFO 0 #1 April 5, 2007 Call/say about the American Revolution? Always wondered how that's discussed...Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pincheck 0 #2 April 5, 2007 to be quite honest its wasn't really mentioned at school when i was a nipper more local based history and world in general. Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #3 April 5, 2007 There was an revolution? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #4 April 5, 2007 Guys, he's referring to the treasonous collonial rebellion of 1775, this will help you remember. In Scotland I was taught about the Boston Tea Party that sparked the whole thing off and not much else. I also remember the "I cannot tell a lie" George Washington tree chopping story and was told about Johnny Appleseed planting apples all over America but this was all probably in "primary school" I think, so it was for 12 and under. It was probably a very brief curriculum on America, it's funny with hindsight the random stuff they pick to teach you (or maybe that's just my memory selectively recalling a few things). It was probably a brief lesson. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #5 April 5, 2007 QuoteThere was an revolution? SHHhhh... That's what we told the Yanks (Jonathans) when we ditched independence on them. It was either that or Britain taking the blame for Big-Macs, Starbucks-Coffee, Colonel Saunders, Colonel North, Gangsta-Rap, The Ford Edsel, Michael Jackson etc... Can you imagine the embarrassment to The Queen of having Dubbie as "Her Majesty's Governor.."!!! Hence King George III's brilliant strategic plan. He even acted mad so the colonials wouldn't catch on. Mike. Edited to add: Seriously; It's taught as "A war of independence" - self determination, with reference made to the ludicrousness of "An Island Ruling a Continent", and the whole "No Taxation without Representation" thing. Probably pretty much as Y'All teach it, but with the Brits of the time being foolish & unfair rather than being bad.... Before sliding nicely back into our national pastime of kicking the $hit out of the French. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #6 April 5, 2007 P.S. when I was in London recently, near the US embassy, there was a plaque next to a door, it said something like (and I'm paraphrasing severely). "Benedict Arnold, Patriot and Hero Lived Here." with some dates. Great stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #7 April 5, 2007 << It's taught as "A war of independence" ->> Oh and as the primary reason that you can never get a decent cup of tea over the pond. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pincheck 0 #8 April 5, 2007 we are still fighting that war Tony and Blair and brown are shiting theresleves as it looks like they're gonna get a kicking up here Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #9 April 5, 2007 In Canada we were taught about the "taxation without representation" thing. Brief mention was given to attitudes in London that 'the colonies are not worth the bother,' and the higher importance of thrashing the French. We were then given several months of the glorious accounts of the true heroes of the age. The United Empire Loyalists were horrified with the vicious acts of the republican terrorists due to the 'mob rule' that held (holds) sway in the barbarian lands to our south. Those who could escape with their families came to the loyal colonies and formed the cornerstone of our great nation. Isn't that how it's taught everywhere? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #10 April 5, 2007 Some Brit friends have told me they learned that the Colonies were ungrateful for all the benefits of British rule and that they were well rid of us because we were such a rude and violent bunch. Sounds like sour grapes to me. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #11 April 5, 2007 The Boston Tea party covers the taxation without representation. I think I was told about this i.e. the stamp duty on the crates of tea. Not the details of all taxes imposed then lifted except that one etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #12 April 6, 2007 QuoteSome Brit friends have told me they learned that the Colonies were ungrateful for all the benefits of British rule.... No Mate, that's part of the pi$$-take version. We were taught that Britain was spending quite a lot of money on our national pastime (kicking the $hit out of the French) and needed to milk a few Cash-Cows to finance this. Hence the "Stamp-Duty" levied on trade goods (Sugar & Tea). A sort of early sales tax but levied on the importers, which made the import & export of almost any goods to the colonies prohibitively expensive. There was also a belief among the "Finking-Klasses" that the Monarchy, Court & Government should have it's power curtailed. Both these things came together to forment the American Rebellion, their independence, and model of Government. Then again, there was also a fair bit of local history for me & my schoolmates in this, coming from the same area as the Washington family. We might have done it in more detail and slightly differently from the rest of Britain. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #13 April 6, 2007 I wasn't taught anything We were too busy being taught black history, about oppressed minority groups and other religions so we could be wonderfully diverse as opposed to important stuff. Plus of course I dropped history to study Geography. I always used to get pissed off in religious education when the teacher used to bring in unlevened bread and shit like that for us to try. Some school class, somewhere, is eating a slap up roast dinner in a far away land. Wankers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #14 April 6, 2007 QuoteI wasn't taught anything We were too busy being taught black history, about oppressed minority groups and other religions so we could be wonderfully diverse as opposed to important stuff. Plus of course I dropped history to study Geography. Well you're young, they stopped teaching in favor of social engineering a while back. That's what happens when you put arts majors in charge of young minds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #15 April 12, 2007 Didn't really cover it in much detail but the bare bones were something like Benedict Arnold was a traitor turned hero, the Americans were pissed and threw a load of tea into Boston harbour. The British forces were led by men who could buy themselfs a commision and so wern't upto much. The Americans fought like the Taliban not like proper soldiers of the time and they would have got their asses kicked but the French came and saved them at the last minute.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,644 #16 April 12, 2007 QuoteCall/say about the American Revolution? Always wondered how that's discussed... A bunch of tax evaders who didn't want to pay their share of the costs of the French and Indian War, aided and abetted by the evil duplicity of the French.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #17 April 12, 2007 QuoteDidThe Americans fought like the Taliban not like proper soldiers of the time and they would have got their asses kicked but the French came and saved them at the last minute. So the French kicked the Brits butt?? steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,644 #18 April 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteDidThe Americans fought like the Taliban not like proper soldiers of the time and they would have got their asses kicked but the French came and saved them at the last minute. So the French kicked the Brits butt?? It happens once every 1,000 years.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #19 April 12, 2007 All our best were killing frogs in EuropeWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #20 April 12, 2007 QuoteAll our best were killing frogs in Europe And by best of course you mean the Scottish regiments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #21 April 12, 2007 As I have a proud heritage of ancestors who served in the Scots Guards I'd have to agree with you.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #22 April 12, 2007 QuoteA bunch of tax evaders who didn't want to pay their share of the costs of the French and Indian War, Ah. Early Republicans. Gotcha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
