rehmwa 2 #26 March 13, 2007 QuoteYeah... I think the only things he forgot was swooping and exit order... but that stuff has been covered thoroughly, unlike topics here which are all fresh and new and thought provoking really, I'm just marvelling at the contrast ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #27 March 13, 2007 Quotereally, I'm just marvelling at the contrast I'm so proud First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #28 March 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteI love Speakers Corner. Yep. You can always express your opinion and have it respected here. I'm not sure "respected" was the word you were looking for...... mocked, ignored, reinvented, misstated, used as a stepping stone for someone else's pet issue all come to mind, not respected, I believe I have correctly communicated my thoughts to you.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #29 March 13, 2007 QuoteI believe I have correctly communicated my thoughts to you. I can respect that ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #30 March 13, 2007 QuoteI don't have children so, my answer has to be no, but you might wanna talk to the folks at this venue. True, they were only semi-automatic. I wondered if the 'automatic' bit was a trap by John. And to really anal about it, clearly children are threatened by violence, but to what degree? The answer is yes if the odds are 1 in a million (more than reality) or 1 in 1000 (skydivers). Kids are safer at school than at home with the swimming pool and their uncle Jerry, but they're still at risk. Without the guns, Columbine could have and likely would have been far worse (failed bomb in cafeteria). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,478 #31 March 13, 2007 All the playing's stopped in the playground now She wants to play with her toys awhile And school's out early and soon we'll be learning That the lesson today is how to die And then the bullhorn crackles And the captain tackles With the problems and the how's and why's And he can see no reasons Cause there are no reasons What reasons do you need to die And the silicon chip inside her head gets switched to overload and nobody's gonna go to school today she's gonna make them stay at home And Daddy doesn't understand it He always said she was good as gold And he can see no reason Cause there are no reasons What reasons do you need to be shown Tell me why I don't like Mondays Tell me why I don't like Mondays Tell me why I don't like Mondays I want to shoot The whole day down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #32 March 13, 2007 Quote I wondered if the 'automatic' bit was a trap by John. There was no doubt in my mind, which is why I worded my reply the way I did, including the italics.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #33 March 13, 2007 Is that an old Geldoff song?1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #34 March 13, 2007 QuoteI wondered if the 'automatic' bit was a trap by John. No trap. Just mimicing the exact words used by the Brit who got this thread started with a statement he made elsewhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,478 #35 March 13, 2007 Yep, boomtown rats. Based on the 1970's slayings here in San Diego. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PWScottIV 0 #36 March 15, 2007 QuoteFrom other posts here, one could think that the only people concerned with American school children being shot by automatic gunfire in their schoolyards are foreigners. What do you think? Yes... I worry about it all day long... I worry that those precious bullets are gonna be wasted on children while they could've been used on you.Gravity Waits for No One. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
br0k3n 0 #37 March 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteI wondered if the 'automatic' bit was a trap by John. No trap. Just mimicing the exact words used by the Brit who got this thread started with a statement he made elsewhere. That would be me everyone...... not sure what JR means by mimicing though, maybe its some sort of gun lingo? JR honestly you are hilarious.. Anyway I stumbled across this report "Thinking about the recent shootings at schools: In your opinion, how likely is it that these kinds of shootings could happen in your community? Is it very likely, somewhat likely, somewhat unlikely, or very unlikely?" % Very likely 31 Somewhat likely 34 Somewhat unlikely 20 Very unlikely 13 Unsure 2 So a WHOPPING 65% of your fellow Americans JR believe that there is a likely chance that shootings will happen Now I would put money on the fact that if that very same question was posed to us "brits" that you would get a very different response. In fact correct me if im wrong but I far as I can tell there has never been a school yard massacre in England.----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #38 March 15, 2007 QuoteSo a WHOPPING 65% of your fellow Americans JR believe that there is a likely chance that shootings will happen don't get too excited - most of us passed on the question due to the phrasing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #39 March 15, 2007 Quote You know .... I once heard Marilyn Manson's music on the radio, and I suddenly had the need to need to kill and eat my parents. ...... It was Barry Manilow that did that to me. Fortunately, there was a Slayer DVD available that brought me back to my usual cool-headed state. Nothing like a little raining blood to in a controlled environment to keep me doing something malicious and deadly....like throwing a McDonalds cup into the car next to me. Man, I was THIS close to losing it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #40 March 15, 2007 QuoteSo far, 14 of 32 Americans voted yes. There's a lot of paranoia around here. ... "Sutler: Mr. Dascombe, what we need is a clear message to the people of the country! This message should be read in every newspaper, heard on every radio, seen on every television. This message must resound throughout the ENTIRE INTERLINK! I want this country to realize that we stand on the edge of oblivion! I want every man, woman, and child to understand how close we are to chaos! I WANT EVERYONE TO REMEMBER WHY THEY NEED US!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #41 March 15, 2007 Quote"Thinking about the recent shootings at schools: In your opinion, how likely is it that these kinds of shootings could happen in your community? "Could happen" doesn't mean crap as a poll question. Anything "could" happen. A meteor could strike the earth tomorrow. A plague could wipe out mankind. The earth could cease to rotate. Anti-gun people could make sense... Quotecorrect me if im wrong but I far as I can tell there has never been a school yard massacre in England. The Moors murders. Hungerford. The House of Horrors. Dunblane. Shipman. Soham. London train bombings. Ipswich Ripper. No, madmen would never kill large numbers of people in the British Isles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #42 March 15, 2007 QuoteIn fact correct me if im wrong but I far as I can tell there has never been a school yard massacre in England. You Brits used to have plenty of carnage from IRA bombings--certainly more civilized than the shootings we have in the US. Oh, and we can't forget the London train bombings. Of course your neighbor Scotland is obviously not quite so civilized: Quote Scotland, March 1996: Gun enthusiast Thomas Hamilton shoots 16 children and their teacher dead at their primary school in Dunblane, Scotland before killing himself. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #43 March 15, 2007 QuoteFrom other posts here, one could think that the only people concerned with American school children being shot by automatic gunfire in their schoolyards are foreigners. What do you think? I worry about fanatical Muslims with improvised weapons. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #44 March 15, 2007 How are terrorist attacks analogous to school shootings? Was 9/11 similar to Columbine? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #45 March 15, 2007 QuoteHow are terrorist attacks analogous to school shootings? Was 9/11 similar to Columbine? Innocent people die at the hands of madmen. Let's turn that question around: Why do you think they should be considered different? (This should be good.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #46 March 15, 2007 Quoteat the hands of madmen. I love this term "madmen." It makes everything seem so simple. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #47 March 15, 2007 QuoteI love this term "madmen." It makes everything seem so simple. Perhaps you have a better name for people who murder a lot of children? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #48 March 15, 2007 QuoteQuoteI love this term "madmen." It makes everything seem so simple. Perhaps you have a better name for people who murder a lot of children? Don't feed the trolls.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #49 March 15, 2007 QuoteHow are terrorist attacks analogous to school shootings? Was 9/11 similar to Columbine? I think conceptually there are far more similarities than differences. Both were carried out by nut cases who thought it was ok to kill innocent people because of perceived mistreatment by others. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #50 March 15, 2007 perceived mistreatment by othersQuote with the columbine shootings however the kids involved really were mistreated. I'm not saying it justified the shootings but they were driven to act out.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 2 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0