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Douva 0
QuoteStill, America may be different because of all the gun-nuts and the availability of firearms.
I don't have any statistics to back this up, but I would venture to guess that if gun crimes in America were limited to only those committed by NRA members (the epitome of "gun nuts"), we'd have less gun crimes than Great Britain. The problem is not the "gun nuts;" the problem is the criminals. People who rob convenience stores and perform drive-by shootings and shoot up high schools seldom have time to attend rallies or write congressmen, and most of them aren't big on paying membership dues. I'm not worried about the "gun nut" with twenty guns; I'm worried about the criminal with one gun.
I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.
kallend 1,683
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotecan you give me some reasons to carry a concealed handgun?
The NRA's "Armed Citizen" files:
http://www.nraila.org/ArmedCitizen/Default.aspx
The KABR's "Operation Self Defense" files:
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/opsd/
Violence happens every day, and can happen to anyone, anywhere, no matter how careful you may be.
Going armed to be prepared for violence, is no different than having a fire extinguisher in your house in case of a fire, wearing your seat belt in case of an auto accident, or taking out life insurance to care for your family in case of your premature death.
If you wish to go through life unprepared, then I wish you good luck.
Come to think of it, since you aren't interested in the ultimate tool for saving yourself from a violent attack, that life insurance might be a good idea for you.
Cardiac arrest happens every day. More people die of cardiac arrest than any other cause (including, surprise, being a victim of crime). Do you carry a portable defibrillator with you?
I work out four to five days a week, for an hour to ninety minutes each day, so I feel that I'm going to MUCH greater lengths to avoid a heart attack than I am to defend myself against violent crime. And if portable defibrillators got a little more affordable, I might consider keeping one in the back of my car, next to the jumper cables. It would be kind of a notch up from taking a CPR class.
Coathangers cause a lot of injuries, gotta be careful of them.
Don't forget the tinfoil beanie, either.
Me - I'm afraid of canopy collisions. Really.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
Tinfoil beanie! 
Anyway, some people like carrying guns. It gives them security, a bit like a childs comfort blanket.
Going by statistics, your more likely to injured or killed in general day to day life from a head injury than an armed attacker. So all the armed civilians cutting about their daily lives - have you got your helmets on?
Well, why not?
So
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
Anyway, some people like carrying guns. It gives them security, a bit like a childs comfort blanket.
Going by statistics, your more likely to injured or killed in general day to day life from a head injury than an armed attacker. So all the armed civilians cutting about their daily lives - have you got your helmets on?
Well, why not?
So
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
DZJ 0
Incidentally (and I know this thread is about concealed carry) what are the laws on carrying unconcealed? As in wearing a pistol openly in a holster?
jenfly00 0
QuoteYou said
QuoteThe thing MOST likely to kill you (and me) is cardiac arrest.
So, as not to change the subject... show me the cardiac arrests prevented by the availability of portable defibs, and the strokes prevented by availability of syringes of warfarin, since you decided to add that in.
Warfarin is a brand of coumadin and is not available in injectable form ...only pills. In addition, it does not disolve clots, it helps prevent the formation of clots. Useful as a preventative for heart attacks, strokes and pulmonary emboli in those with conditions likely to promote clots, it's also quite high on the list of medications responsible for hospitalization and death due to coumadin toxicity. It's therapeutic level is very close to it's toxic level. Thus, coumadin, does, indeed help prevent tens of thousands of non-hemorrhagic strokes, and cardiac arrests caused by an MI (heart attack). Interestingly, it is a primary cause of many hemorragic strokes.
What John is referring to is a class of drugs in injectible form (TPA, Alteplase, etc) that dissolve clots after they have formed. In the case of a clot causing an MI, these drugs have prevented many thousands of people from progressing to cardiac arrest and have reversed many thousands of non-hemmorhagic strokes.
Can defibrillators prevent cardiac arrest? Absolutely! They are used every day in syncronized cardioversion to stop very rapid heart beats (rapid atrial fibrillation, supraventricular tachycardia, ventricular tachycardia) which, if not promptly treated with drugs or cardioversion, will likely lead to cardiac arrest.
So, basically, what we have in the disagreement between John and you is the difference between a good formal education and a google search.
Having said that, I have a Florida CCW and more often than not, am packing when I go out.
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"O brave new world that has such people in it".
"O brave new world that has such people in it".
Guns were designed to kill and empower. Neither has it been called worthless.
Everything else you wrote comes across as bollocks really. But each to their own, eh?
'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'
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