PLFXpert 0 #76 November 17, 2006 QuoteI don't have an issue. But, I'll admit I've rolled my eyes at those definitely NOT being discrete. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- oxy--moron I should clarify I've never actually rolled my eyes at someone--that would be rude. It's far more polite to do so behind their back. More seriously, what I meant by not being discreet has already been addressed here (why not bring a small blanket?). I have no issues with breast-feeding in public. In fact I'll stand up for a woman's right to do so. But it doesn't mean I'm stoked to see the woman who will sit in the middle of the room in everyone's view (rather than off to the side) wearing a tiny tank top and practically has both breasts exposed--not just the one the baby is feeding from. Add shouting to her husband across the room to that and you have someone drawing a LOT of attention to themselves. On one hand, I suppose I admire they really just don't give a damn. On the other, if they don't give a damn, then who should give a shmack if I turn toward Billy and roll my eyes and we share a laugh? (Besides those that seem to care about everything I do & say. I'm flattered, Squeak.)Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #77 November 17, 2006 I have to agree... Would you eat your dinner in a bathroom stall? No? Then why the heck would you force your baby to eat in a yucky PUBLIC RESTROOM??!Arianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #78 November 17, 2006 First of all: I agree about the french people To those of you who say that the woman is jumping for lawsuit money - I am a frequent flyer (and I dont mean the King Air or Otter) and I know how system and not passanger oriented the airlines are. In their view they are king and thats it. Someone bumps K. off a flight for something like that - believe me I will get mideval with their asses real fast. As mentioned I am a frequent flyer. Believe me there is nothing worse on a flight than a screaming baby. I had one two rows behind me once on a flight from JFK to Heathrow...what a long night. Let the kid have a boob! People who want ot use blankets, diapers (how the fuck do you cover a kid with a pamperor huggy anyway) or better yet napkin - go to fucking Iran. Women are well covered there, you will not be offended. Last but not least - my sense of esthetics is often offended by ugly people. More yet my sense of inteligence is even more offended by small mided people. I have to live with them. Can't tell them all to cover up or shut up...so why are they trying to do that to me? BTW as a view on our morals...remember Superman? Look very carefully...he has huge muscles but lack any sigh of sexual organs under 'em cool red briefs of his... .jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #79 November 17, 2006 My $.02...(worth more or less depending on the exchange ) ...... Yes, breast feeding should be allowed. Does that equal an open license to flash your rack to everyone, obviously not. Should things be covered during the act? No. Just move the shirt out of the way, and let the baby have some lunch, it takes what...five minutes?So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparkie 0 #80 November 17, 2006 Quotethe only reason you say that because breasts are considered so taboo in the US. if mouths were considered the same would you get offended by seeing something talk or eat? she's feeding a baby... I mean really. The airline industry has made it so you can't take bottles of breastmilk or formula on flights without HUGE hassle, the least the airline industry can do is make it easy to breastfeed I think the breastfeeding should be done in private unless impossible. In our liberal country (netherlands..yes from amsterdam and drugs etc) i see it too often, and when eating i dont care for some woman laying her breast on the table to feed her baby while there is plenty of private places around. You often get a look like "so what?"and its perfectly normal to do that there. Annoys the heck out of me. If all goes well we should be getting a baby next week (planned heh) and I wouldnt want my wife to just bf anywhere, nor would she for that matter. Comes down to common sense i guess, when and where to feed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #81 November 17, 2006 BREAST FEEDING SHOULD BE MANDATORY. It's the only chance for some of us to see boobies Seriously, there's no big deal about breast feeding. There's no need to exhibit them boobies either. It can be done in public, with a normal common sense, and a little bit of pudor. It's natural, it's life.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #82 November 17, 2006 QuoteFirst of all: I agree about the french people And lets not forget the hippies.Damn hippies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #83 November 17, 2006 Does the sight of an adult eating irk you? Do you get grossed out when you see an elderly person eating a hamburger, or a teenager munching on fries? No? Then why would you have any problem seeing a BABY eat? I really don't understand where this phobia of breasts came from - its the mode of transportation for the babies food, why should someone have to hide under a blanket, in a bathroom stall or any other 'private place' in order to feed a baby? I'm sure you don't have issue with a baby that eats solid foods doing so in public, or do you? I can understand not doing a blatant flash show for everyone around - breastfeeding only concerns the mother and the baby, so only the baby needs to see, but to say that someone should have to go somewhere private to do so is insulting to the mother and child. JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #84 November 17, 2006 What I don't understand is that men want to see breasts in movies, on tv, at the dropzone, on dropzone.com, etc. Look at how much money is spent on pornography in this country. And people get offended at the sight of a breast when a woman feeds her child? Please... breasts are not just for the sexual pleasure of men. They are for the care and feeding of human infants. I guess it's okay for people to flash their tits at the dz and show their pictures here on this website but God forbid a woman show her breasts when she feeds her child. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #85 November 17, 2006 ya, kind of an oxy moron huh? Arianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #86 November 17, 2006 QuoteI really don't understand where this phobia of breasts came from that's just because they can't suck nipples in public themselves. Pure jealousy. Why would it be OK for a baby and not for an adult ?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #87 November 17, 2006 QuoteI voted yes, but... Can one REALLY not arrange for that at home (or someplace else privately)??? One can never quite arrange for everything when you have a baby. Especially the first four /five months when babies nurse exclusively. I could have never left the house if that was the case. If you have children one day you'll understand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #88 November 17, 2006 Actually I agree with you... there is no reason humans can't drink human milk beyond infancy - the world health organization actually has guidelines for some 3rd world countries to breastfeed up to pre-teen years because the food supply/water supply is so unpredictable. I"d love to know how it came to be that humans started drinking the milk of another animal (cows) when the rest of the creatures on this planet don't do that... but thats a different discussion than this thread.Arianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #89 November 17, 2006 QuoteBREAST FEEDING SHOULD BE MANDATORY. I know you were only kidding here but there IS a bit of truth. Breastfeeding SHOULD be the norm - and bottle feeding should be the exception. Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #90 November 17, 2006 QuoteI voted yes, but... Can one REALLY not arrange for that at home (or someplace else privately)? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ?? One can never quite arrange for everything when you have a baby. Especially the first four /five months when babies nurse exclusively. I could have never left the house if that was the case. If you have children one day you'll understand I completely understand--my emphasis should not have been on "home" or "privately" but rather discreetly as a couple others have mentioned.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #91 November 17, 2006 Agreed! Quote Breastfeeding SHOULD be the norm - and bottle feeding formula feeding should be the exception. small correction My daughter had an immature suck and never got the hang of breastfeeding but I still pump 6 times a day for her and she's 8 months old... so she's bottle fed, exclusively - and I'm very sad about that. I was really looking forward to feeding a more natural way Arianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #92 November 17, 2006 "A pair of substantial mammary glands have the advantage over the two hemispheres of the most learned professor's brain in the art of compounding a nutritive fluid for infants." --Chief Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes (1809-1894)[ "Formula feeding is the longest lasting uncontrolled experiment lacking informed consent in the history of medicine." -- Frank Oski, M.D., retired editor, Journal of Pediatrics Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karenmeal 0 #93 November 17, 2006 I think it is ridiculous how many men have posted saying that they are offended when a women breast feeds in public. You want the woman to go find a more private place? Quite often their only option is a disgusting public rest room with no place for them to sit down and be comfortable. I don't think we should force women who are trying to be good mothers to quarantine themselves to bathroom stalls. And women can't always be discreet and cover everything with a blanket when they breastfeed. Sometimes the baby doesn't like it, or they are having trouble getting the baby to properly latch on. (Which can cause a whole host of problems if you're not aware.) If you don't feel comfortable seeing a woman breast feed, then don't look. It's that simple. Don't whinge and say that she should go do it someplace private. I'm sure if there were breastfeeding lounges available in most public places, that women would gladly want to go in there. But there aren't. So you uptight folks will have to avert your eyes and get over your perversion. "Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #94 November 17, 2006 Good correction. And damn! Pumping is hard - good for you for keeping it up. I'd be willing to bet more than a few people have asked "Why don't you just give her formula?" People don't realize the commitment it takes to breastfeed a baby. Especially with the prevailing attitudes of the general public. We should be more supportive and encouraging when a mother tries to the best and healthiest thing for her child, rather than impose random age, limits, locations, methods, etc on her. It's hard on the mom - she has to eat healthfully and alot, she has to participate in every feeding of her baby (even when pumping, she is still participating), sore nipples, engorgement, leaking... But breastfed children have higher IQs, they learn empathy, there is quicker bonding to the mother, they are generally leaner, they get sick less often, they have fewer ear infections...and mom's lose the baby weight FAST and it's cheaper. All around it's the best thing for your baby. As someone said in a previous speaker's corner post about BFing mothers "Aren't there enough things out there to get your panties in a twist - LEAVE THE MOMMIES ALONE!" (or something like that) Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #95 November 17, 2006 QuoteI'm sure if there were breastfeeding lounges available in most public places, that women would gladly want to go in there. But there aren't Agreed. I would go in a second so I wouldn't have to worry about offending people. I have learned all over town which bathrooms have lounges with couches and which do not. At the mall I would go into a store and ask to use the dressing rooms and they always let me. I still hate feeling like I'm hiding away though just so someone won't catch a glimpse of my offensive breast. Babies R US is great because they have rocking chairs in the "nursing lounge." Maybe more places should offer these. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #96 November 17, 2006 Nice new Avatar MissKris, Kudos to you young Misshave the morally wounded complained to you yet?You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #97 November 17, 2006 QuoteAlthough I totally understand and support any woman to BF in anyway she wants to. What about those women that were having a 'rally' and forcing their babies to try and feed even though the babies weren't hungry at the time? 1 - I voted yes 2 - Courtesy goes both ways, though it doesn't bother me, I won't belittle those that have different values and I appreciate moms that do what they can for those around them. I don't appreciate the self righteous attitudes of 'some' moms and 'some' of those that take on ultra-pro or ultra-con attitudes on the subject. don't make it a big deal and respect those around you (no matter which role one is is) and it won't be one ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #98 November 17, 2006 QuoteI think it is ridiculous how many men have posted saying that they are offended when a women breast feeds in public What about the women who posted it is objectionable?----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #99 November 17, 2006 Quote believe me I will get mideval with their asses real fast.. you'll let your teeth go bad and die in your middle thirties??? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #100 November 17, 2006 Exactly!Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
