eaglenrider 0 #1 September 16, 2005 So is George Jr. a liar or a nutcase? Or do you really believe that God spoke to him and told him to invade Iraq? Just wondering about our presidents mental stability and moral proclivity. How you answer may also shed some light as to yours. Blues, Cliff Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #2 September 16, 2005 QuoteHow you answer may also shed some light as to yours. Sometimes, it's not the answers, it's the questions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #3 September 16, 2005 QuoteQuoteHow you answer may also shed some light as to yours. Sometimes, it's not the answers, it's the questions. __________________________________________________ So do you believe that "GOD" told Bush to invade Iraq? Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #4 September 16, 2005 Quote So is George Jr. a liar or a nutcase? Or do you really believe that God spoke to him and told him to invade Iraq? Just wondering about our presidents mental stability and moral proclivity. How you answer may also shed some light as to yours. Blues, Cliff Blues, Cliff I have no reason to believe he has claimed this. Do you have a link where he's quoted?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #5 September 16, 2005 I have no reason to believe he has claimed this. Do you have a link where he's quoted? __________________________________________________ Yes. Do you need to be spoon fed? I mean hell, he's your president making war in your name! You should be ashamed of yourself !!! Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #6 September 16, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteHow you answer may also shed some light as to yours. Sometimes, it's not the answers, it's the questions. __________________________________________________ So do you believe that "GOD" told Bush to invade Iraq? Blues, Cliff No, I figured that your question made you crazier than his answer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #7 September 16, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHow you answer may also shed some light as to yours. Sometimes, it's not the answers, it's the questions. __________________________________________________ So do you believe that "GOD" told Bush to invade Iraq? Blues, Cliff No, __________________________________________________ So you know he is a liar or a nutcase. Great. Still support him? Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Anvilbrother 0 #8 September 16, 2005 Just get over it. There is NOTHING you can do. Vote harder next time if you dont like it Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #9 September 16, 2005 Quote So you know he is a liar or a nutcase. Great. Still support him? Blues, Cliff I'm just not so sure you have the knowledge, experience or maturity to offer psychological counseling based on what I have seen you post here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites panzwami 0 #10 September 16, 2005 man it must really suck to be you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,454 #11 September 16, 2005 > I figured that your question made you crazier than his answer. No personal attacks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #12 September 16, 2005 Quote> I figured that your question made you crazier than his answer. No personal attacks. QuoteJust wondering about our presidents mental stability and moral proclivity. How you answer may also shed some light as to yours. He was evaluating the mental stability of posters based on their answers. It seems equally valid to evaluate posters on their questions. I was just agreeing with "his" reasoning. I promise not to agree anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #13 September 16, 2005 QuoteQuote So you know he is a liar or a nutcase. Great. Still support him? Blues, Cliff I'm just not so sure you have the knowledge, experience or maturity to offer psychological counseling based on what I have seen you post here. __________________________________________________ Fantastic. Now , Do you believe that God talks to the President? Or do you believe that George was lying when he stated that " 'God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. " or do you believe George is a nut job? Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #14 September 16, 2005 Quoteman it must really suck to be you. __________________________________________________ What makes you believe that? Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #15 September 16, 2005 From: Common Dreams - Breaking News and Views for the Progressive Community Did God tell George W. Bush to strike at Al-Qaeda and Iraq? God only knows. Did Bush SAY that God told him to strike? We don't know yet, for sure. But we damn well better find out. Because if George W. said it, he-and all of us-could be in for some big trouble. Here is what we know for sure, so far. Journalist Arnon Regular wrote, in the June 26 edition of Ha'aretz (Israel's most reputable newspaper), that he has minutes of a meeting among top-level Palestinian leaders, including Prime Minister Mahmoud Abas. The minutes are apparently quite detailed, because Regular wrote a long article recounting very specific conversations. The last paragraph of the article reads: "According to Abbas, Bush said: 'God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them.'" Before you jump to any conclusions, remember that you are reading a translation of a translation of a translation. Mahmoud Abas does not speak English. Bush does not speak Arabic. If Bush said these words, or something like them, Abas heard them from a translator. Then Abas repeated them, as he remembered them a couple of weeks later, in Arabic. Some unknown person wrote down what he thought he heard Abas say. Then Regular, or someone at Ha'aretz, translated them back into English-or perhaps first into Hebrew and then into English. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,454 #16 September 16, 2005 >He was evaluating the mental stability . . . I don't care. Read the rules. If Charles Manson were posting here, you still couldn't call him crazy. If that grates on you, rec.skydiving has no such restrictions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #17 September 16, 2005 Before you jump to any conclusions, remember that you are reading a translation of a translation of a translation. Mahmoud Abas does not speak English. Bush does not speak Arabic. If Bush said these words, or something like them, Abas heard them from a translator. Then Abas repeated them, as he remembered them a couple of weeks later, in Arabic. Some unknown person wrote down what he thought he heard Abas say. Then Regular, or someone at Ha'aretz, translated them back into English-or perhaps first into Hebrew and then into English. __________________________________________________ Shoot Jimbo, You make it sound as if it deserves as much credibility as the Bible! Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #18 September 16, 2005 QuoteIf Charles Manson were posting here, you still couldn't call him crazy. Could we put that to a vote ? I mean, Charles Manson is crazy, isn't he ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #19 September 16, 2005 Charles Manson is crazy, isn't he ? __________________________________________________ Why do you think so? Your government doesn't believe Charley is crazy. If they did , surely the compasionate conservatives would house him in a mental institution instead of a prison. But Charley is in a prison. And you think he's crazy but Bush is sane. Charley may be responsible for a few deaths but he was never convicted of even 1 murder. Bush has admited "responsibility" for the deaths of hundreds at the gulf coast and we know he is "responsible for thousands and thousands in Iraq. Do you believe George is sane? Why isn't he in prison? . Might want to reconsider your judgement. Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #8 September 16, 2005 Just get over it. There is NOTHING you can do. Vote harder next time if you dont like it Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #9 September 16, 2005 Quote So you know he is a liar or a nutcase. Great. Still support him? Blues, Cliff I'm just not so sure you have the knowledge, experience or maturity to offer psychological counseling based on what I have seen you post here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panzwami 0 #10 September 16, 2005 man it must really suck to be you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,454 #11 September 16, 2005 > I figured that your question made you crazier than his answer. No personal attacks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #12 September 16, 2005 Quote> I figured that your question made you crazier than his answer. No personal attacks. QuoteJust wondering about our presidents mental stability and moral proclivity. How you answer may also shed some light as to yours. He was evaluating the mental stability of posters based on their answers. It seems equally valid to evaluate posters on their questions. I was just agreeing with "his" reasoning. I promise not to agree anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #13 September 16, 2005 QuoteQuote So you know he is a liar or a nutcase. Great. Still support him? Blues, Cliff I'm just not so sure you have the knowledge, experience or maturity to offer psychological counseling based on what I have seen you post here. __________________________________________________ Fantastic. Now , Do you believe that God talks to the President? Or do you believe that George was lying when he stated that " 'God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. " or do you believe George is a nut job? Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #14 September 16, 2005 Quoteman it must really suck to be you. __________________________________________________ What makes you believe that? Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #15 September 16, 2005 From: Common Dreams - Breaking News and Views for the Progressive Community Did God tell George W. Bush to strike at Al-Qaeda and Iraq? God only knows. Did Bush SAY that God told him to strike? We don't know yet, for sure. But we damn well better find out. Because if George W. said it, he-and all of us-could be in for some big trouble. Here is what we know for sure, so far. Journalist Arnon Regular wrote, in the June 26 edition of Ha'aretz (Israel's most reputable newspaper), that he has minutes of a meeting among top-level Palestinian leaders, including Prime Minister Mahmoud Abas. The minutes are apparently quite detailed, because Regular wrote a long article recounting very specific conversations. The last paragraph of the article reads: "According to Abbas, Bush said: 'God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them.'" Before you jump to any conclusions, remember that you are reading a translation of a translation of a translation. Mahmoud Abas does not speak English. Bush does not speak Arabic. If Bush said these words, or something like them, Abas heard them from a translator. Then Abas repeated them, as he remembered them a couple of weeks later, in Arabic. Some unknown person wrote down what he thought he heard Abas say. Then Regular, or someone at Ha'aretz, translated them back into English-or perhaps first into Hebrew and then into English. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,454 #16 September 16, 2005 >He was evaluating the mental stability . . . I don't care. Read the rules. If Charles Manson were posting here, you still couldn't call him crazy. If that grates on you, rec.skydiving has no such restrictions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #17 September 16, 2005 Before you jump to any conclusions, remember that you are reading a translation of a translation of a translation. Mahmoud Abas does not speak English. Bush does not speak Arabic. If Bush said these words, or something like them, Abas heard them from a translator. Then Abas repeated them, as he remembered them a couple of weeks later, in Arabic. Some unknown person wrote down what he thought he heard Abas say. Then Regular, or someone at Ha'aretz, translated them back into English-or perhaps first into Hebrew and then into English. __________________________________________________ Shoot Jimbo, You make it sound as if it deserves as much credibility as the Bible! Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #18 September 16, 2005 QuoteIf Charles Manson were posting here, you still couldn't call him crazy. Could we put that to a vote ? I mean, Charles Manson is crazy, isn't he ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #19 September 16, 2005 Charles Manson is crazy, isn't he ? __________________________________________________ Why do you think so? Your government doesn't believe Charley is crazy. If they did , surely the compasionate conservatives would house him in a mental institution instead of a prison. But Charley is in a prison. And you think he's crazy but Bush is sane. Charley may be responsible for a few deaths but he was never convicted of even 1 murder. Bush has admited "responsibility" for the deaths of hundreds at the gulf coast and we know he is "responsible for thousands and thousands in Iraq. Do you believe George is sane? Why isn't he in prison? . Might want to reconsider your judgement. Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #20 September 16, 2005 Quote I have no reason to believe he has claimed this. Do you have a link where he's quoted? __________________________________________________ Yes. Do you need to be spoon fed? I mean hell, he's your president making war in your name! You should be ashamed of yourself !!! Blues, Cliff A. YOU are the one making the claim. It's YOUR burden to provide the evidence. That's how the game is played. -Always-. B. I didn't vote for him. C. I might be ashamed of my self for various reasons, but this ain't one of them.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #21 September 16, 2005 QuoteAnd you think he's crazy but Bush is sane. I believe CM is crazy based on a personal definition. I haven't told you what that is, so you can't know the basis of my personal judgement. Could you quote to me where I stated that Pres Bush is sane or not? You seem to be making unfounded statements at every turn. These avoid misquotes and fantasies. You might want to reconsider your judgement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #22 September 16, 2005 A. YOU are the one making the claim. It's YOUR burden to provide the evidence. That's how the game is played. -Always-. __________________________________________________ I'm not trying to convince you of anything and I'm not playing a game.. I'm merely attempting to lead you on a path to your own enlightenment. I'm attempting to help yourself in expanding your radius of knowledge. Your hostility and mistrust are tangible in your reply. May Allah grant you Peace Brother. Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #23 September 16, 2005 QuoteQuoteAnd you think he's crazy but Bush is sane. I believe CM is crazy based on a personal definition. I haven't told you what that is, so you can't know the basis of my personal judgement. Could you quote to me where I stated that Pres Bush is sane or not? You seem to be making unfounded statements at every turn. These avoid misquotes and fantasies. You might want to reconsider your judgement. __________________________________________________ It is obvious that you have reached a pivital point. My post has effected you in a most obvious manner. You now realize that the president who you have been supporting has some very serious flaws. You also realise the wars against Afghanistan and Iraq are unjust and that the blame for the many casualties are partly on your shoulders due to your support. Take it easy ,Happythoughts, it isn't really your fault. You were duped by conspirators who have nearly unlimited resources. There is no shame in that. The shame is in continuing to support them after you know. Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #24 September 16, 2005 It is obvious that you have reached a pivital point. My post has affected you in a most obvious manner. You now realize that the posts you have been quoting are fantasies of your own making. It is important to arrive at a point where the difference between fantasy and reality is clear to you. Those posts don't exist. I am glad that I could enlighten you. You have increased the radius of your understanding. You have seen the truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #25 September 16, 2005 QuoteI'm merely attempting to lead you on a path to your own enlightenment. Wow. What luck! I usually have to pay $39.95 for the benefit of such wisdom. But, wait...are you willing to throw in a free Ginsu knife? FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
