jeiber 0
Should have known that was coming..
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wmw999 2,150
Real, overdiagnosed, and overprescribed.
Just because you have it doesn't mean medication is necessary. Some people have jobs that don't require that kind of focus; some kids are able to simply treat that aspect of school as their challenge, just as math is a challenge for other kids.
But to do that, it takes having overall good skills, and support from parents. It is probably harder if you have noticeable ADHD and don't use something. Otherwise, it can become overwhelming.
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Just because you have it doesn't mean medication is necessary. Some people have jobs that don't require that kind of focus; some kids are able to simply treat that aspect of school as their challenge, just as math is a challenge for other kids.
But to do that, it takes having overall good skills, and support from parents. It is probably harder if you have noticeable ADHD and don't use something. Otherwise, it can become overwhelming.
Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)
jeiber 0
QuoteTurns out that over the years I developed coping mechanisms for it with the help of ADHD meds. It didn't mean I didn't have ADHD, just that I learned to coped with it.
I've ordered books on coping with it... Like you, I don't want to be medicated, but can't stand some of my less desirable traits that I've had pointed out to me....
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gjhdiver 0
QuoteMy thread on Ritalin seems to be getting hijacked with regard to ADHD and treatment, so I thought I'd create this poll here.
My personal thoughts are that ADHD is very real in the child and adult populations. I also believe that it is being overdiagnosed and overdrugged.
What are other peoples' thoughts on this? This issue is deeply personal for me...
I find that without my concerta, I can't get a damn thing done, and I'll usually wind up causing trouble to self medicate myself.
It's served me well in many arenas, such as when I was a pro musician, and being able to make intuitive leaps as a programmer, but without it, social situations can get a little hairy.
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I don't have kids yet, got about ten years or so before I do, but if ANY teacher EVER forces my kid to take a drug without my permission, I will personally smack the dumb bitch across the head.
ADHD medication can only be prescribed by a physician.....Steve1
Yeah? Why don't you go to my high school? The nurse is not a physician. She has quite a few Ritalin pills to hand out to anybody.
Many high schools are turning this way.
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well, then the teacher should be arrested.
f&*k, in the schools I went to the nurses couldn't even give you a damn aspirin.
f&*k, in the schools I went to the nurses couldn't even give you a damn aspirin.
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QuoteI most likely have it as well
this means most likely not. and is the reason for overdiagnosis, and is also the reason for the people that need ritilin or any other stimulant, cant get it because it is a controlled substance.
i need it, everyone in my life sees it and comments on it... well, i cant get it.
QuoteIt's served me well in many arenas, such as when I was a pro musician, and being able to make intuitive leaps as a programmer, but without it, social situations can get a little hairy.
These are the coping mechanisms. it helped me when I was a pro musician. It helps me do my attorney job. But, sometimes life situations change.
When I got a new job, then opened a new business, in a new city, and started a new family, things changed. Prior issues were easy to handle. Minor failings. But, the minor failing became huge problems.
Often, as was my case, this issue with coping skills can cause a profound depression. ADHD isn't always something with happy kids. Plenty of us know the depression that comes with not being like others. We are outcasts. Usually pretty smart outcasts, but outcasts nonetheless.
You know, the meds can give a sense of normalcy. It did to me, and it did to many others I know. (something else about ADHD folk - we can sniff each other out in a crowd).
How often are ADHD kids depressed? Very often. Therapy, along with medications, can make all the difference. This, however, doesn't work the same if the kid does not have ADHD. It can only add to the troubles.
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Just a little story as to why I voted for Overdiagnosed/Overprescribed:
My brother is a high school English teacher in California. He had a student who got Senioritis for the first half of the year (he was an A-B student prior to his Senior year). The students father brought him to a Doctor, who diagnosed ADD. At a meeting with the School principal, my brother, the student (and his father) and the students advocate, the student was forced by his father to sign gaurdianship back to his father (he was already 18- so legally he is no longer an adult).
The next day he came into class, walked up to my brother, and apologized. He told my brother basically this, "I know I don't have ADD. I just didn't feel like doing the work."
It's amazing that someone who gets bored with school (cause that never happens) is typically diagnosed ADD. Just my 2 cents.
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My brother is a high school English teacher in California. He had a student who got Senioritis for the first half of the year (he was an A-B student prior to his Senior year). The students father brought him to a Doctor, who diagnosed ADD. At a meeting with the School principal, my brother, the student (and his father) and the students advocate, the student was forced by his father to sign gaurdianship back to his father (he was already 18- so legally he is no longer an adult).
The next day he came into class, walked up to my brother, and apologized. He told my brother basically this, "I know I don't have ADD. I just didn't feel like doing the work."
It's amazing that someone who gets bored with school (cause that never happens) is typically diagnosed ADD. Just my 2 cents.
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QuoteQuoteI most likely have it as well
this means most likely not. and is the reason for overdiagnosis, and is also the reason for the people that need ritilin or any other stimulant, cant get it because it is a controlled substance.
i need it, everyone in my life sees it and comments on it... well, i cant get it.
I didn't get it because my parents didn't want me on any medication. They finally relented when I was depressed and the doctor said I had to be on antidepressants to live my life normally. Fuck, I wish they didn't.
You say its difficult to get it? The college I went to, you can go in, say you think you have ADHD, they'll give you some stupid questionairre and voila, you've got a prescription. Yes, that easy. How do I know this? Because my friends go get it for RECREATIONAL PURPOSES. Ever heard of Ritalin or Adderal being called the "poor man's coke"? It's cause it is. It's not hard to get, and its popular with college students when they want a lifter when they're drunk and can't afford coke, and also used a lot during finals. So people who don't have it, pretend lilke they do, get prescribed it because every fucking doctor is giving it to anybody, and then turn around and sell it.
As I said, I don't want it. I like my ADHD. I like the fact that I have no attention span; because I get so much more shit done. And besides, I don't want to be medicated on -anything-. Have had bad enough experiences with it.
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Quoteell, then the teacher should be arrested.
f&*k, in the schools I went to the nurses couldn't even give you a damn aspirin.
My kid needed to have a signed Dr's note specifically saying that his med needed to be taken atnoon each day before the nurse would even tocuh the bottle.
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My bad, I wasn't exactly right. They are prescribed by a physician, but handed out by the school nurse.
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Well, from what I saw as a classroom teacher and a karate instructor, ADHD does exist... I had one or two students that, if they forgot their medication, it was very obvious, and it was very obvious they needed it. They were trying to pay attention and just could not do it. However, there were many more kids that were taking ADHD drugs, and honestly, in most of the cases, from talking to the parents, I could figure out why. The kids had absolutely no discipline at home, no consequences, and no rules. They'd never learned any kind of self discipline. I had several students in my karate class who acted ADHD before class, and after class, but during class they were just as focused as any other kid, because the instructors enforced rules and discipline and the kids had a very clear idea of what was expected of them and what would happen if they failed to meet those expectations.
What was the question, again?
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