PhillyKev 0 #1 November 30, 2004 Ridge resigned as Homeland Security Secretary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #2 November 30, 2004 Old news... He spoke of this in October and said he would probably step down. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #3 November 30, 2004 Well it's now definite, not probably, and was announced 15 minutes ago....so not really old, now is it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #4 November 30, 2004 Well, Old is all relative right??? ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #5 November 30, 2004 I am just looing for an argument with you!!! It has been too long, and recently I have found that we have been agreeing too much.... ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treejumps 0 #6 November 30, 2004 Hardly an exodus, but if calling it that makes you feel better about losing the election, have at it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #7 November 30, 2004 Enough of this nonsense, kev. Radically changing Cabinets following re-election is as common as Hillary Clinton being bitchy. In 1996, there were reports of the Clinton Cabinet exploding. Here's a list of Clinton's cabinet. Note that there were 8 cabinet members who either changed positions or resigned in 1997 alone. Quote Secretary of State Warren M. Christopher (1993-97) Madeleine Albright (1997-2001) Secretary of the Treasury Lloyd M. Bentsen (1993-94) Robert E. Rubin (1995-99) Lawrence H. Summers (1999-2001) Secretary of Defense Les Aspin, Jr. (1993-94) William J. Perry (1994-97) William Cohen (1997-2001) Attorney General Janet Reno (1993-2001) Secretary of the Interior Bruce Babbitt (1993-2001) Secretary of Agriculture Mike Espy (1993-94) Dan Glickman (1994-2001) Secretary of Commerce Ronald H. Brown (1993-96) Mickey Kantor (1996-97) William Daley (1997-2000) Norman Y. Mineta (2000-01) Secretary of Labor Robert B. Reich (1993-97) Alexis M. Herman (1997-2001) Secretary of Health and Human Services Donna E. Shalala (1993-2001) Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Henry G. Cisneros (1993-97) Andrew M. Cuomo (1997-2001) Secretary of Transportation Federico F. Peña (1993-97) Rodney Slater (1997-2001) Secretary of Energy Hazel R. O'Leary (1993-97) Federico F. Peña (1997-98) Bill Richardson (1998-2001) Secretary of Education Richard W. Riley (1993-2001) Secretary of Veterans Affairs Jesse Brown (1993-97) Togo D. West, Jr. (1998-2000) Hershel W. Gober (2000-01) What about the Reagan Cabinet? 7 changes in 1985 alone. Quote Secretary of State Alexander M. Haig Jr. 1981-82 George P. Shultz 1982-89 Secretary of the Treasury Donald T. Regan 1981-85 James A. Baker III 1985-88 Nicholas F. Brady 1988-89 Secretary of Defense Caspar W. Weinberger 1981-87 Frank C. Carlucci 1987-89 Attorney General William French Smith 1981-85 Edwin Meese III 1985-88 Richard L. Thornburgh 1988-89 Secretary of the Interior James G. Watt 1981-83 William P. Clark 1983-85 Donald P. Hodel 1985-89 Secretary of Agriculture John R. Block 1981-86 Richard E. Lyng 1986-89 Secretary of Commerce Malcolm Baldrige 1981-87 C. William Verity Jr. 1987-89 Secretary of Labor Raymond J. Donovan 1981-85 William E. Brock 1985-87 Ann Dore McLaughlin 1987-89 Secretary of Health and Human Services Richard S. Schweiker 1981-83 Margaret M. Heckler 1983-85 Otis R. Bowen 1985-89 Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Samuel R. Pierce Jr. 1981-89 Secretary of Transportation Andrew L. Lewis Jr. 1981-83 Elizabeth H. Dole 1983-87 James H. Burnley 4th 1987-89 Secretary of Energy James B. Edwards 1981-82 Donald P. Hodel 1982-85 John S. Herrington 1985-89 Secretary of Education Terrel H. Bell 1981-85 William J. Bennett 1985-88 Lauro F. Cavazos 1988-89 If revamping a Cabinet post-election is evidence of trouble, there has not been a two-term president who hasn't been in deep doo doo... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 200 #8 November 30, 2004 At the beginning of President Clinton's second term, seven Cabinet members stayed and seven left. The Homeland Security Cabinet post was added during Bush's presidency. At the beginning of President Reagan's second term, seven Cabinet members stayed and six left. The Veterans Affairs post became a Cabinet seat during President George H.W. Bush's term. Kev...keep the spin going. It's funny to read.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #9 November 30, 2004 I don't recall you pointing out such resignations when Clinton had *seven* cabinet members resign at the beginning of his second term. Why is that? This is normal attrition. It's not a sign that Bush is out of touch with his advisors. The only thing that this post is a sign of, is of your ever-burning hatred for Bush, and that you can't get over the fact that your man lost. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #10 November 30, 2004 Well if you're looking for an argument, you've got to try harder. The guys below you are attributing my simple factual statement "Ridge resigned as Homeland Security Secretary" as burning hatred for Bush and inability to get over Kerry losing the election. You've really got to reach further, Storm, and stretch everything into partisan bickering if you want to start an argument. These other guys have you beat by a mile Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
