happythoughts 0 #26 August 23, 2002 "some errant priests" Isn't that just the way it is. 99% of them just ruin it for the rest of us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #27 August 23, 2002 Wow, I hope you meant that as a joke. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #28 August 23, 2002 And I disagree with your disagreement with my disagreement... You steal $20 from me, I really don't care much. You take my teddy bear that I grew up with that is not worth a dollar, that hurts. You burn a piece of cloth, that's not a big deal. You dye that piece of fabric red, white, and blue, and now you are evil. It doesn't matter what I think, or what you think, or what anyone else thinks about the building...it is sacred to these people, and is therefore disrespectful and hurtful. If the people on the radio agreed with you, they would not have had the church on the list. They knew that it would be shocking and that it would offend some. They just hoped that they would get away with it. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #29 August 23, 2002 So I guess that if you go to a church that doesn't have a building it doesn't count . ----------- I didn't say that at all. If they were to go to the side of a public lake and hold their services, when they were not there, then I would not consider having sex in that location to be disrespectful to them. If it is their property, though, whether under shelter or in open air, then I do think that it is disrespectful and wrong. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #30 August 23, 2002 'Wow, I hope you meant that as a joke. " Absolutely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #31 August 23, 2002 Whew! I got scared for a minute there. I kind of feel sorry for the actual good priests, who never did any of this bullshit and now they have to put up with all the jokes and suspicions because their perverted comrades. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,647 #32 August 23, 2002 Quotea contest where you would get points according to how 'daring' the deed was, and had a list of said deeds with point value. One of the tops in point value was having sex in St. Patrick's in NY.*** Why is that more daring than this? milehighclub.com/beyond.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SBS 0 #33 August 23, 2002 now they have to put up with all the jokes and suspicions because their perverted comrades. --------------- I too feel sorry for the good ones, but then again, I don't think that they are having to put up with it because of the bad ones...I think it stems more from the handling of the whole situation by the church itsself. I don't know if how they have handled the situation is right or wrong. I disagree with it from what I have seen, and think that there are a lot of people who have serious disagreements...I think that is what has lead to the ridicule. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,647 #34 August 23, 2002 Quoteit's really really funny, but maybe they should show a little respect when it comes to certain religious beliefs. Why? Why is one brand of mythology more deserving of respect than another? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Muenkel 0 #35 August 23, 2002 SBS, I agree. Anyone on any level that is involved in the molestation of children and the covering up of it needs to go to jail...IMHO. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SBS 0 #36 August 23, 2002 Why? Why is one brand of mythology more deserving of respect than another? --------------- Nobody has said that this one should be respected and another shouldn't...I, personally, would consider it the same if it was done in the place of worship for Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Mormons, JW's, etc. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #37 August 23, 2002 It is a position of authority. Power is subject to abuse in any profession. Problems make the news. Psychiatrists, police, politics (think Bill Clinton), you name it. You don't hear about the good guys, do you ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Muenkel 0 #38 August 23, 2002 I'm with SBS here. It's called respect for your fellow human. What you call mythology, many folks believe is truth. Another clarification in regard to the Catholic Church. Someone said earlier that the Church is empty. Not true. According to the Catholic belief, Jesus Christ is present in body and blood. That is what the Catholic faith is based on. That is why it is so offensive. We don't consider it an empty building. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites goose491 0 #39 August 23, 2002 Sex in a Church!!! Boy Oh Boy If God where there, he'd be sooooo angry! LOL My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites megscott73 0 #40 August 23, 2002 Why? Why is one brand of mythology more deserving of respect than another? I didn't mean Catholic exclusively...I suppose I worded my sentence wrong. I didn't mean it to come out that way. I just mean any kind of beliefs someone may have. We really should be striving to respect one another instead of just disregarding peoples feelings & beliefs. I don't go to church, but I think my 'OVERLY' catholic grandmother would have a heart attack if she heard about this. It's way too touchy a subject for the O&A show to be doing it just for laughs.======================= "What I want is what I've not got ,but what I need is all around me"-DMB Meghan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #33 August 23, 2002 now they have to put up with all the jokes and suspicions because their perverted comrades. --------------- I too feel sorry for the good ones, but then again, I don't think that they are having to put up with it because of the bad ones...I think it stems more from the handling of the whole situation by the church itsself. I don't know if how they have handled the situation is right or wrong. I disagree with it from what I have seen, and think that there are a lot of people who have serious disagreements...I think that is what has lead to the ridicule. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,647 #34 August 23, 2002 Quoteit's really really funny, but maybe they should show a little respect when it comes to certain religious beliefs. Why? Why is one brand of mythology more deserving of respect than another? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #35 August 23, 2002 SBS, I agree. Anyone on any level that is involved in the molestation of children and the covering up of it needs to go to jail...IMHO. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #36 August 23, 2002 Why? Why is one brand of mythology more deserving of respect than another? --------------- Nobody has said that this one should be respected and another shouldn't...I, personally, would consider it the same if it was done in the place of worship for Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Mormons, JW's, etc. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #37 August 23, 2002 It is a position of authority. Power is subject to abuse in any profession. Problems make the news. Psychiatrists, police, politics (think Bill Clinton), you name it. You don't hear about the good guys, do you ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #38 August 23, 2002 I'm with SBS here. It's called respect for your fellow human. What you call mythology, many folks believe is truth. Another clarification in regard to the Catholic Church. Someone said earlier that the Church is empty. Not true. According to the Catholic belief, Jesus Christ is present in body and blood. That is what the Catholic faith is based on. That is why it is so offensive. We don't consider it an empty building. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #39 August 23, 2002 Sex in a Church!!! Boy Oh Boy If God where there, he'd be sooooo angry! LOL My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megscott73 0 #40 August 23, 2002 Why? Why is one brand of mythology more deserving of respect than another? I didn't mean Catholic exclusively...I suppose I worded my sentence wrong. I didn't mean it to come out that way. I just mean any kind of beliefs someone may have. We really should be striving to respect one another instead of just disregarding peoples feelings & beliefs. I don't go to church, but I think my 'OVERLY' catholic grandmother would have a heart attack if she heard about this. It's way too touchy a subject for the O&A show to be doing it just for laughs.======================= "What I want is what I've not got ,but what I need is all around me"-DMB Meghan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megscott73 0 #41 August 23, 2002 Religion is probably the biggest cause of war in the world. Live & let live, with a certain degree of respect for others. Maybe O&A should have just stopped at WOW! j/k======================= "What I want is what I've not got ,but what I need is all around me"-DMB Meghan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #42 August 23, 2002 Religion is probably the biggest cause of war in the world. ------------------- Isn't it ironic??? :) Human nature, I guess. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,427 #43 August 23, 2002 >I was raised Catholic and this happened in a Catholic Church. If you >were to research the Catholic Catechism you would realize how >offensive this act was to practicing Catholic people. I was raised catholic as well, and spent my formative years in an all boys catholic high school. It took me years to get over that. After I saw some of the stuff the brothers did in the chapel, I wouldn't get too upset over some laypeople (no pun intended) fooling around in a church. But that's just me. Personally I wouldn't do it because I know some people _would_ be very offended. As an aside, if you've read Kushiel's Dart, the author presents a thought-provoking "alternative history" in which a prophet (Eula) thinks that sex is a good thing, a sacrament of sorts. A religion very similar to christianity forms around his teachings, with some very noticeable differences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #44 August 23, 2002 Quote(Eula) I can't ever see that without thinking "End User License Agreement". Damn Microsoft! DAMN THEM! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS 0 #45 August 23, 2002 I wouldn't do it because I know some people _would be very offended. ------------- That's really the issue here, that although we may not care, some people do. ----------------- As an aside, if you've read Kushiel's Dart, the author presents a thought-provoking "alternative history" in which a prophet (Eula) thinks that sex is a good thing, a sacrament of sorts. A religion very similar to christianity forms around his teachings, with some very noticeable differences. ------------------ This would be very different if we were talking about memebers of a congregation having sex in their church because it was an act involved in their worship or beliefs (Stranger in a Strangeland comes to mind as well). Each religion or mythology has its beleifs, and the issue is not having sex, it's doing something that is known to be deeply offensive. -S_____________ I'm not conceited...I'm just realistic about my awesomeness... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #46 August 23, 2002 *testing waters with big toe* *big toe being burnt off* *running away from thread* "run away, run away..."--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,647 #47 August 23, 2002 Quote Why? Why is one brand of mythology more deserving of respect than another? --------------- Nobody has said that this one should be respected and another shouldn't...I, personally, would consider it the same if it was done in the place of worship for Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Mormons, JW's, Well, she said "certain religious beliefs", which implies selectivity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #48 August 23, 2002 Quote*testing waters with big toe* *big toe being burnt off* *running away from thread* "run away, run away..." Wuss. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megscott73 0 #49 August 23, 2002 Quote>laypeople (no pun intended) haha======================= "What I want is what I've not got ,but what I need is all around me"-DMB Meghan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #50 August 23, 2002 The only problem I have with this, is that they were reckless enough to alert those around them to what they were doing, and thus were arrested (and deservingly so). If the building is empty, I see no problem. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
