jimmytavino 16 #26 November 11, 2002 Sure enough AggieDave..... I would agree.... But some "large turbine DZs" still have a 180 or a 182 parked on site... because many places that can now offer a turbine,,,,,,BEGAN as Cessna DZs and still DO have ,,,, that small DZ atmosphere,,only over the years the support for the place has grown, and if there is a good staff,, the numbers of novice and intermediate level jumpers have grown as well. Then you have the BEST of both worlds,,,,,, a place with good vibes,,,, AND great aircraft........Plus you can have the occasional Sunday afternoon, where the 180 will take off and 15 or 20 minutes later the Otter will go,,,,,,,,and they meet up with each other on jump run !!!,,, Nothing like a formation load where the exit doors face one another!!!!especially when you have REAL capable jump pilots..........I swear we ALMOST chunked an exit,,,, where 6 floaters from the Otter.... were hooked up to 4 more who were on the step of the Cessna Hahaha,,,,,, (OK OK ...just kiddin'....... only happened in my imagination)......... But wouldn't THAT be Fun!!!!!!!!!!Cessna Jump.......or NO jump..??.....Put me on the Cessna manifest!!!!!! Turbine load or Cessna Load......??? "Doh" (homer simpson) .... It isn't even close... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #27 November 11, 2002 Quote The conversion for the Turbine 206 is fairly expensive, we had looked to get one when Aggieland was first opening, but ended up going with a regular 182 to start with. That's ok, we'll have a Caravan soon enough... Turbine engines aint cheap but they are very reliable and don't require overhaul until almost double that of a piston engine. They are lighter so that you can carry more pax/fuel and produce more power (safety) and aren't suceptible to "shock cooling". They do have other limitations that pilots have to be aware of for sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #28 November 11, 2002 Quote Quote The conversion for the Turbine 206 is fairly expensive, we had looked to get one when Aggieland was first opening, but ended up going with a regular 182 to start with. That's ok, we'll have a Caravan soon enough... Turbine engines aint cheap but they are very reliable and don't require overhaul until almost double that of a piston engine. They are lighter so that you can carry more pax/fuel and produce more power (safety) and aren't suceptible to "shock cooling". They do have other limitations that pilots have to be aware of for sure. plus it is a heck of a lot faster than a caravan. a caravan lift is still a slow climb rate (In my experience), even though you're going higher. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrodan 0 #29 November 11, 2002 I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS OF SKYDIVE WICHITA. WE TRY NOT TO BUMP ANYONE WHO WANTS TO MAKE A JUMP. UNTIL THREE MONTHS AGO WE RAN TWO 182'S BUT WE SOLD ONE TO LOWER EXPENCE. AS A RULE WHEN WE HAVE ALOT OF TANDEMS OR STUDENTS WE TRY TO KEEP EVERY OTHER LOAD FOR UPJUMPERS, IT KEEPS THE STUDENTS EXCITED WATCHING THEM LAND AND HEARING THEM TALK ABOUT THERE JUMPS. WE HAVE VERY FEW COMPLAINTS BECAUSE WE TRY TO CATER TO EVERYONE BUT ONCE AND A WHILE SOMEONE FEELS THAT ITS JUST TO SLOW. WHAT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IS WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN. IF YOU DO MAKE THE LONGER DRIVE HAVE A GREAT TIME WE ALL WISH WE COULD JUMP FROM A TURBINE EVERY WEEKEND BUT COME ON CUT US SOME SLACK THERE'S AN OLD GEORGIA SAYING "YOU HAVE TO RUN WITH WHAT YOU BROUGHT TO THE TRACK" THATS ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO.DAN SMITH www.skydivewichita.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #30 November 11, 2002 Quote I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS OF SKYDIVE WICHITA Man...that "Caps Lock" key is a bitch sometimes.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrodan 0 #31 November 11, 2002 I'M AT WORK ADP ONLY RESPONDS TO CAPS. SORRY I NEVER TAKE IT OFF.DAN SMITH www.skydivewichita.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDolphin 0 #32 November 11, 2002 Dude. How do you like Frederick. I lived there for a few years and it was my favorite city to live in so far. I used to live downtown on South Street for a while then lived in Willowcrest near Ft. Detrick. I'm sure it's changed a lot since then. That was 10 years ago but I loved downtown Frederick. What a neat city with awesome little pubs and restaurants. My husband and I met at Grif's Landing. Rhonda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #33 November 11, 2002 Thought this was funny to read. We call our "regular" Otter a toad because our Super Otter is so much nicer! I think that if all I had to jump ever was at a small Cessna DZ, I would go back to G O L F ! C Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Topcat 0 #34 November 11, 2002 QuoteThought this was funny to read. We call our "regular" Otter a toad because our Super Otter is so much nicer! I think that if all I had to jump ever was at a small Cessna DZ, I would go back to G O L F ! Or you would grump about the 182 for a while, do some jumps out of it, get used to it, then enjoy them for what they are. -Sandy (But mighty glad to be jumping a King Air again) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #35 November 11, 2002 dd, i've jumped out of a cessna turbine 206... with 5 jumpers and 1 pilot we were climbing at around 1500ft min and it rocked... wierd as hell to hear a turbine sound comingout of a 206.... this one was in germany ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoby 0 #36 November 11, 2002 QuoteOr you would grump about the 182 for a while, do some jumps out of it, get used to it, then enjoy them for what they are. I really want to jump the 182 at our DZ and always ask about it on slow days. Twice now they've started to get it ready, and then had a couple more jumpers show up so they can get a King Air load together. Weak! From this thread, I've realized that I'm lucky to jump at a small turbine DZ. We have all that small DZ feel, with a relatively short ride to 13,500 and no trouble getting on loads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #37 November 11, 2002 It's pretty tough do'n 20 ways out of 1 Cessna! Occasionally we jump a 206 onto the beach @ Galveston but come on 35 min-10500. I normally get 8-10 jumps a day on weekends Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasterfaller 0 #38 November 12, 2002 ***I moved to Frederick, MD in April. Quote I'm sorry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrodan 0 #39 November 12, 2002 our 182 goes to 12500 in 16 minutes on a cool day with 4 jumpers and we hold the state record of a 28 way (I know 28 no big deal) with a caravan and two 182s. yes in ks thats a big way..DAN SMITH www.skydivewichita.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonic 0 #40 November 12, 2002 I'm assuming it's a turbo? Wish ours was like that. ----------------------------------- It's like something out of that twilighty show about that zone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrodan 0 #41 November 12, 2002 Nope its just been modified three blade propp wing ext. and 280 hp. its not a king air or caravan but it works.DAN SMITH www.skydivewichita.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #42 November 12, 2002 Congrats! I was in the TEXAS STATE RECORD ATTEMPTS! We had 3 Otters and 2 Casas for the record! I cant see a Cessna zone! Sorry. The state record is 104, we did 118/113 but pendejos not in! C 1035! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #43 November 12, 2002 That's quicker than any Cessna I've been in, I'm impressed! But it's still tough doing 20 ways out of 1 Cessna. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonic 0 #44 November 12, 2002 what about a cessna citation or something like that? no problems there. ----------------------------------- It's like something out of that twilighty show about that zone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #45 November 12, 2002 We have a single 182, but it's a widebody, with 3 ft wingtip extensions and the 520 engine in it. Consequently, we can climb to 10,500 AGL in about 23 minutes...and our DZ is located at 5,000 ft above sea level! It's really a great plane. I'm sort of a split personality on this. I had almost 300 jumps before I moved to NM and made my first ever Cessna jump. I was turbine-spoiled, but I'll tell you, I still love my little home DZ. The people there are just great, there aren't really any cliques to speak of (there aren't enough of us!), and even on shitty days, we'll be down there doing something. Now, don't get me wrong, I train at a big DZ, and I love it. I just got 33 skydives over 4 days this past week, and I couldn't be happier. But a part of me wished that all my buddies from the little DZ could be there, too. As for the student issue, we try to balance the loads as much as possible. Usually every 2 or 3 loads is an experienced load...it also gives the JM's and TM's time to reset and recharge for the next round. It seems to work well. I'd say give it a shot, especially for the social aspect. Hell, I don't really like to jump too much in the cold, anyway...it's the camraderie that counts!Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #46 November 12, 2002 You need to find Fayards 182, Widebody, tri-prop, well over 300 horse, every mod you can think of... plus a sliding door . It takes about 12 minutes to get to 10000 and only 14 to get to 12000. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonic 0 #48 November 12, 2002 You just said cessna No mention of model ----------------------------------- It's like something out of that twilighty show about that zone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharpfive 0 #49 November 16, 2002 I jumped at Chambersburg for about 20 yrs. The big planes always leave this time of year, no money to be made when us cold weather wimps hibernate. I think Orange flies their Otter year round and the atmosphere there is great. It's a long drive from Fredneck, but that part of Virginia is a pleasure to drive through. If you want to get a quick jump in, go to The Skydivin' Place in Kingsdale, PA. It will only take you about 30 minutes to drive there. It's a one Cessna operation, but you will get jumps in, they alternate between students and experienced jumpers. It's a very friendly drop zone. Just call the day before and they'll tell you what time wheels will be up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
