ChasingBlueSky 0 #51 October 27, 2003 Here is a picture from orbit of the CA fires In this satellite image, plumes of smoke caused by wildfires are seen moving off the coast through Southern California on Sunday, Oct. 26, 2003. The fires have grown to more than 208,000 acres, destroying 500 homes in densely populated suburbs and have caused at least 11 deaths. Fires burning are, at left left, Simi Valley and Moorpark; center, the combined Grand Prix and Old Fire, north of San Bernadino and Rancho Cucamonga/Ontario; bottom right, the Scripps Ranch fire in the San Diego area. AP Photo/US Forest Service via NASA_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tailgate 0 #52 October 27, 2003 ALL my VIBES heading that way _________________________________________________ Let me live in my house by the side of the road and be a friend to man- Sam Walter Foss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #53 October 27, 2003 Looks like the weather conditions caused by the fire caused a GA plane crash: Firefighters hose down a small plane that crashed on the 163 Highway near Montgomery Field in San Diego, Sunday, Oct. 26, 2003. Investigators believe high winds from a wildfire burning nearby caused the pilot to attempt to land on the highway. (AP Photo/Tim Tadder)_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GARYC24 3 #54 October 27, 2003 Wow ! You alot closer to fire than I am. I live in Camarillo, next to the Simi Valley and Moorpark fires, (and Piru in the distance) The smoke and ash is really getting to me..It smells lke a constant campground outside, ashes and smoke haze is inside our building at work and only 3 people showed up today..well 4 showed 1 took a look around and went home! I'm really getting sick of the smell! I had to close my windows in my room this weekend! The gutters and cars are covered with ash! I can only imagine how worse it must be for you two there! Gary Calhoun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiaKrembs 0 #55 October 27, 2003 All my prayers and wishes to you who have been impacted by the fires. Any of you peeps from Arizona... the The NFL Dolpins, Charges game has been moved to the Sun Devil Stadium tonight (Monday 10/27)... I heard that entrance tickets are free, however they are welcoming donations that will go towards the victims of the fires in So. Cal. God speed everyone - be safe, g Raddest ho this side of Jersey #1 - rest in peace brother Beth lost her cherry and I missed it .... you want access to it, but you don't want to break it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #56 October 27, 2003 Any news from Bill, Keith's relatives, etc? Vibes to all."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #57 October 27, 2003 Those pictures are beautify yet so scary at the same time. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropdeded 0 #58 October 27, 2003 Was walking the dog this morning, heard the drone of large aircraft, could see the orange stripe on the wings. Very eerie. dropdeded------------------------------------------ The Dude Abides. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #59 October 27, 2003 Here are a few of the Hanford fire that swept through a couple years ago. I can't find the really dramatic ones (taken at night). They ended up having it contained by the weekend, but we were sharing our airport with the smaller firefighting A/C. It was pretty cool climbing over it, and watching the acrobatics of the bombers flying HARD at around 300 feet. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,476 #60 October 27, 2003 Update - Fires didn't move much during the night. I came to work today, but the roads were eerily empty, smoky and dim. The worry today is what the winds will do. Some good news - a stubborn pilot (not a skydiving pilot) stayed at Otay, and he thinks the buildings survived the fire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastchica 0 #61 October 27, 2003 fact sheets for LA and SD fires link here California Wildfires at a Glance A list of major California wildfires Sunday. CEDAR FIRE: Size: 100,000 acres. Homes: 100 in Ramona alone, 150 in Scripps Ranch. Deaths: 11. Containment: 0 percent. Start: Oct. 25 in eastern San Diego County. Key facts: Extends to Scripps Ranch, Poway, Miramar Marine Corps Air Station, portions of Santee, Lakeside and Blossom Valley, Poway and Ramona. Air traffic nationwide was disrupted when this fire forced evacuation of a Federal Aviation Administration control center. Personnel: More than 800 firefighters. Suppression Cost: No data available. Cause: Authorities believe a hunter set signal fire when he got lost. DULZURA FIRE: Size: 15,000 acres Homes: None. Deaths: None. Containment: 0 percent. Start: Sunday, Oct. 26 in southern San Diego County. Key facts: The fire prompted voluntary evacuations of parts of eastern Chula Vista and flames skipped over the border into eastern Tijuana. Personnel: 300 firefighters. Suppression costs: No data available. Cause: Under investigation. PARADISE FIRE: Size: 3,000-plus. Homes: 36. Deaths: One. Containment: 0 percent. Start: Oct. 26 in Valley Center area near Interstate 15. Key facts: Valley View Casino evacuated. Personnel: More than 500 firefighters. Suppression costs: No data available. Cause: Under investigation. GRAND PRIX FIRE: Size: 35,000 acres. Homes: 62 destroyed. Deaths: None. Containment: 23 percent. Start: Oct. 21 near San Bernardino National Forest. Key facts: Mandatory evacuations in Lytle Creek, Mount Baldy, Rialto and parts of Claremont, Upland and other foothill communities of the San Gabriel Mountains. Personnel: 2,427 firefighters. Suppression Cost: $6.5 million. Cause: Arson. OLD FIRE: Size: 15,000 acres. Homes: 300 homes, 10 commercial buildings. Deaths: Two. Containment: 5 percent. Start: Oct. 25 near San Bernardino National Forest. Key facts: Evacuations in foothill areas of San Bernardino and mountain communities, including Crestline and Lake Arrowhead. Personnel: 917 firefighters. Suppression Cost: Unknown. Cause: Under investigation, suspicious origin. SIMI VALLEY: Size: 80,000 acres. Homes: Six destroyed, eight damaged. Deaths: None. Containment: 0 percent. Start: Oct. 25. Key facts: Firefighters trying desperately to save Ronald Reagan Library. Voluntary evacuations for Moorpark. Personnel: 599 firefighters. Suppression Cost: $25,000. Cause: Under investigation. VERDALE FIRE: Size: 9,000 acres. Homes: None. Deaths: None. Containment: 50 percent. Start: Oct. 24 west of Santa Clarita in northern Los Angeles County. Key facts: Voluntary evacuations for community of Val Verde Park and parts of Piru. Blaze sparked the Simi Valley incident. Personnel: 500 firefighters. Suppression Cost: $1.3 million. Cause: Under investigation. CAMP PENDLETON: Size: 4,695 acres. Homes: None. Deaths: None. Containment: 55 percent. Start: Oct. 21 on the base north of San Diego. Key facts: Authorities are downplaying early reports that fire was ignited by live ammunition exercises on the base. Personnel: 999 firefighters. Suppression Cost: Not available. Cause: Under investigation. PIRU FIRE: Size: 1,300 acres. Homes: None. Deaths: None. Containment: 85 percent. Start: Oct. 23 west of Lake Piru in Ventura County. Key facts: The fire in Los Padres National Forest is threatening the Sespe Wilderness and Sespe Condor sanctuary. There are no condors currently in the refuge. Voluntary evacuations in Piru and parts of Fillmore. Personnel: 780 firefighters. Suppression Cost: No data available. Cause: Under investigation. MOUNTAIN FIRE: Size: 1,000 acres. Homes: Two damaged or destroyed. Deaths: None. Containment: 0 percent. Start: Oct. 26 in southern Riverside County. Key facts: Evacuations ordered for homes near Lake Skinner. Two civilian injuries. Personnel: 250 firefighters. Suppression Cost: No data available. Cause: Under investigation. Copyright © 2003 KABC-TV and the Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. *** sorry for the long post, but i thought people would be interested in how widespread this is. this is from yesterday, so i'm sure things have changed since then, but it's something to start a clear picture for you. keep those positive vibes flowing. cali folks need all they can get right now. -Lara Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #62 October 27, 2003 I just wanted to say Thanks to everyone for thier concern. I talked to my Mom this morning. They're doing fine. They went to a hotel near the coast. They're not sure when they'll be able to go home - most of the roads are closed around thier house, but eveyone is safe. Anyone heard from Bill and Amy?Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayruss 0 #63 October 27, 2003 that's great news Keith, bill is at work according to his post above. has anyone heard from kate? __________________________________________________ "Beware how you take away hope from another human being." -Oliver Wendell Holmes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #64 October 27, 2003 Yep good news indeed."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #65 October 27, 2003 Haven't heard from Kate, but Perris is back up and running. Ontario is taking the task of ATC for the area and has o.k.'d jump run up to 11.5. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,476 #66 October 27, 2003 >has anyone heard from kate? Kate's good as of late last night. She's actually pretty far (20 miles or so) from the fires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayruss 0 #67 October 27, 2003 Quote>has anyone heard from kate? Kate's good as of late last night. She's actually pretty far (20 miles or so) from the fires. yeah I realize that bill but fire can move pretty fast, just making sure everyone is ok __________________________________________________ "Beware how you take away hope from another human being." -Oliver Wendell Holmes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #68 October 27, 2003 QuoteSIMI VALLEY: Size: 80,000 acres. Homes: Six destroyed, eight damaged. Deaths: None. Containment: 0 percent. Start: Oct. 25. Key facts: Firefighters trying desperately to save Ronald Reagan Library. Voluntary evacuations for Moorpark. Personnel: 599 firefighters. Suppression Cost: $25,000. Cause: Under investigation. I didn't want to post last night about this, but please keep my parents in your thoughts, everyone. They live just in a private community/road just off the 118 (Port Ranch exit) in Chatsworth. My mother just called and said that she can see that the fire is pretty close now. Their home is 2 acres, and the area surrounding them has been kept quite natural with much brush, gorgeous trees, etc. (utter paradise!!!) as is all their neighbors' property. My parents' home is mostly gorgeous mahogany wood and has english tudor styling, as do many of their neighbors. There is much wildlife, too...raccoons, squirrels, wild rabbits, coyotes, skunks, etc. My neighbors have llama, alpacas, ostriches, beautiful stallions, and more. I am not sure how they are dealing with getting all the animals out. A neighbor has a beautiful ranch enclosed in a huge lot. We do have a lake in the middle of all homes, but that it surrounded by all out greenery. Many of the wild animals may perish. I'm so sad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #69 October 27, 2003 QuoteOLD FIRE: Size: 15,000 acres. Homes: 300 homes, 10 commercial buildings. Deaths: Two. Containment: 5 percent. Start: Oct. 25 near San Bernardino National Forest. Key facts: Evacuations in foothill areas of San Bernardino and mountain communities, including Crestline and Lake Arrowhead. Personnel: 917 firefighters. Suppression Cost: Unknown. Cause: Under investigation, suspicious origin. One of the deaths was a retired Fire Capt. helping his neighbors evacuate.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,476 #70 October 27, 2003 > Their home is 2 acres, and the area surrounding them has been > kept quite natural . . . That's a dilemma for us as well. We live on a protected canyon, and usually it's great - it's quiet, cool, and provides a home for deer, coyotes, a red-tail hawk, and lots of rabbits. But when there's a fire nearby, those thousand-odd acres of trees, bushes and grasses become a hazard. San Diego County allows homeowners to clear the canyon out to about 150 feet for firebreak purposes, and we've done that to some degree - there are only a couple of small bushes in the firebreak area. One thing you can do is to plant fire-resistant coverings like iceplant. Fire will kill iceplant but it won't burn. On the downside they take a lot of water. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastchica 0 #71 October 27, 2003 QuoteI am not sure how they are dealing with getting all the animals out. link here for animal rescue info seems like people are really doing a great job rescuing the animals. -Lara Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peachsouthern 0 #72 October 27, 2003 To all of you out there, my prayers and vibes are with you!!!!! Be careful out there!!!! "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." - Albert Einstein Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #73 October 27, 2003 I am actually on my way to load up my car and help them to evacuate. Last night the fire was just 3-5miles away. It may be too late at this point to do much, but I am moving my dog (to a friend's as I cannot have pets in my apt.), mom/grandmom and all the albums that I can carry. My daddy is working, so he can join us later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #74 October 27, 2003 One of our neighbors has acres and acres and acres of animals (moving them all should be a spectacular event)...but I was primarily talking about the surrounding wildlife. On second thought, perhaps they fled when they smelled the fire a while ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katzeye 0 #75 October 27, 2003 I'm watching this from afar in Hawaii. Keith, JoeMama, BillV and Amy, tried calling you with no luck. Lines are down. Barabara - I left you a vm, not sure if you evacuated or not. My thoughts and prayers are with you all and our old home DZ... LA* Is a chicken omelette redundant? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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