hackish 8 #1 August 30, 2009 Since losing my gear I wanted to pick up an older rig to use as a backup. How old is too old? I tried this rig out but I'm not sure if I can put up with the landings. Thanks to Jim Wilson and Andre Lemaire for allowing me to perpetrate this jump. -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackish 8 #2 August 30, 2009 Ok, one more. I know it's fuzzy but still a nice photo of the deployment. I'm almost at linestretch and the sleeve is still on. Any ideas on what that dark dot is under the pilot chute? -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #3 August 30, 2009 QuoteAny ideas on what that dark dot is under the pilot chute? some kind of kick plate for the spring loaded PC ?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beatnik 2 #4 August 30, 2009 I know, I know. Is this a quiz for others or am I allowed to guess? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #5 August 30, 2009 it looks to me, like that IS the sleeve.... and that the canopy is already out of it...... what makes you think that the canopy isn't??? IF you ARE at line stretch, that means the locking stows have been undone ,,, and the containing device.. sleeve, shorty sleeve or P.O.D. has already done it's job and has blown up to the base of the M A 1 or whatever other pilot chute is on the gear, ( Grabber? ) ( Hot dog?? ) the canopy seems awfully "wide" to still be in the sleeve. just my $.02 jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackish 8 #6 August 30, 2009 You could be correct on that point. Jim may have gotten some photos of the deployment as well. All I know is that it left my back then it felt like a scary long time before anything started to happen. There is no kicker plate on that one. I remember there being stows for the apex lines but I think they were part of the sleeve. I will have to look again next time I jump it. Of course this post wasn't about the PLF - although it did feel like I was a wet sack of potatoes falling from a truck. -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beatnik 2 #7 August 31, 2009 Didn't take any opening shots. But I can tell you what it is. It is the sleeve pushed up from the canopy opening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #8 August 31, 2009 Should have been able to stand that up you pussy! you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #9 August 31, 2009 It's a bowling ball. It's actually behind the bridle but appears to be attached do to the view angle. If you look at the airplane, you'll see another bowling ball that was release shortly after. The view of the wheel is blocked by the second bowling ball.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d123 1 #10 August 31, 2009 So how is it to jump a round? Did it felt safe?Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dks13827 3 #11 August 31, 2009 ha !! good pics... good experience, eh ?? now you know.......... jumpers used to be REAL MEN !!! ( even the women !!! ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackish 8 #12 September 1, 2009 QuoteSo how is it to jump a round? Did it felt safe? Sure it felt safe. I understood and worked with the elevated levels of risk while I was practising with the shot 'n 1/2 capewells on the ground. Main issue was completely different emergency procedures. Another issue was the spot and I spent considerable time triple checking it. Landed 10m from the peas. I liked it and want to jump it again. I throw this out for those who haven't ever jumped a round it defnitely adds a new level to a quiet peaceful canopy ride. Without a lot of forward motion you hear nothing up there. I could hear the voices inside my head quite clearly the whole way down :P -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d123 1 #13 September 2, 2009 > Landed 10m from the peas. No way! This is cool! Did you had to put a lot of effort for this to happen? ... how do you steer?Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #14 September 3, 2009 Quote > Landed 10m from the peas. No way! This is cool! Did you had to put a lot of effort for this to happen? ... how do you steer? God I feel old... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,083 #15 September 3, 2009 Hi Michael, What type of canopy was it? I don't recognize the yellow center-line material. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d123 1 #16 September 3, 2009 Quote God I feel old... Don't you mean experienced? Psssst... We are as old as we feel Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #17 September 3, 2009 QuoteIt's a bowling ball. It's actually behind the bridle but appears to be attached do to the view angle. If you look at the airplane, you'll see another bowling ball that was release shortly after. The view of the wheel is blocked by the second bowling ball. __________________________________________ Hnnn. I figured the jm got the static-line around his neck when he left, and that was his head. Same size as a bowling ball.....If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #18 September 3, 2009 All I know is that it left my back then it felt like a scary long time before anything started to happen. _______________________________________________ Try opening a diaper-constrained 26'lopo at 500' going 120, then you'll know what a long opening feels like.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cambalectri 0 #19 September 3, 2009 I believe the yellow material is made of coton,it's a kind of sleeve, surrounding the centerline....and this is a COBRA, by EAG Parachute Ent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackish 8 #20 September 4, 2009 Quote> Landed 10m from the peas. No way! This is cool! Did you had to put a lot of effort for this to happen? ... how do you steer? Well it has toggles you know. I just steered toward the centre of the field. If I had known the landing would have been as "firm" as it was I would have worked harder to make the peas themselves. Since it doesn't have a lot of forward drive it is very important to carefully pick your spot. At 4k I was going backwards facing into the wind. By 2k it was all OK. -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackish 8 #21 September 4, 2009 QuoteHi Michael, What type of canopy was it? I don't recognize the yellow center-line material. To be honest I didn't really look that closely at the yellow lines. Some of the older folks had it mostly packed by the time I got back from lunch. As already mentioned it was a Niagara Parachutes rig and the parachute was EAG. The reserve, loaned by Jim Wilson happened to match the rig very well. Strong Enterprises "Starmaker" 26'. Here is another pic. -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,083 #22 September 4, 2009 Hi Michael, Uhhh, get that harness adjusted will you? Those Capewells do NOT belong on the top of your shoulders. Sheesh, kids these days . . . JerryBaumchen PS) Twardo, I almost fell out of my chair on that one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beatnik 2 #23 September 5, 2009 The harness was adjusted properly before he jumped and the capewells were at the collarbone where they should be. Don't jump the gun to much on the photos some were taken right when he put it on before it was adjusted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strop45 0 #24 September 5, 2009 QuoteHow old is too old? Not sure of the answer, but here's Chuck Berry flying an older canopy for the first time. No-one was surprised that its was a tiptoe landing.The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." -- Albert Einstein Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,083 #25 September 6, 2009 Hi Beatnik, Re: The harness was adjusted properly before he jumped and the capewells were at the collarbone where they should be. Good. Although I have seen more than one person walking toward the plane with a harness adjusted just like in that photo. A little forewarning is better than a mistake, I hope. Re: Don't jump the gun Hey, this is the internet; it's allowed. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
