skyflychris 0 #1 February 19, 2006 Hi, Forgive my length. I was at the drop zone yesterday making some jumps and 2 students graduated. They announced it over thr PA and everyone clapped. A few jumps later I noticed they were hanging around and nobody really knew them so they remained on the fringe of the action. I made it a point to talk with them and remembered imediately that sense of excitement I felt at their point. I greatly appreciated those who recognized this with me and went that extra step to help a new jumper. The comraderie is what hooked me, that's what at the end of the day it's all about, or there's nobody to hear your story and learn. Just some thoughts from an old school new guy.Ordinary's..... just not good enough today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #2 February 19, 2006 That was nice of you......really....its the way it "should" be...but sadly it isn't always that way, for whatever reason. BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyflychris 0 #3 February 19, 2006 Sucks. That time between graduation and getting your A is strange. You can solo, but that's when you need the most help.Ordinary's..... just not good enough today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #4 February 19, 2006 Thats why I always suggested a coach jump or two or three....I had several at my DZ and they were more then willing to help the newbies out...These coaches had lots of jumps and were just stoked to help the "new guy/gal" out. Did it for free, most of the time...coaching that is.. BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #5 February 19, 2006 Yeah, nice going. I find it quite difficult to interact with the other regular jumpers. I suppose they see so many faces come and go. Its really nice when people come up and chat, even if its just to talk bollocks. I love the atmosphere and the comeraderie too, thats half the fun of going jumping at the weekend for me. I am in that awkward stage too. Just finishing my consols and soon to get A licence. I remember my very first jump. Was AFF level 1. Last jump of the day, sun was setting, still was in tail part of summer. Everyone dropped there kit and the fridge openend. Beers all round and hung around chatting and getting to know people. Was great, then winter came and they all went into hibernation. Haha. Guess have to start from scratch again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #6 February 19, 2006 We ALWAYS brought the bar-b-que out, ran to the store bought burgers, dogs, BEER, etc, My video guy/coach was a DJ, so he always traveled with his tables and tunes.... and just hung out until the no see'ms started to eat us alive....aaaaah good times. BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
L.O. 0 #7 February 19, 2006 I jump at a small Cessna DZ in Wi. We have some of the worlds most respected and accomplished skydivers here. We have two WT, including last out last in, we have skilled canopy pilots, great load organizing. The average jump # on each Cessna going up is usually arroud 4/5000 jumps and that usually includes at least one person with fewer then 100. We treat new jumpers the way they are supposed to be treated. If we keep neglecting our newbies, we are going to end up with the same people to jump with until they die f-that. I love a hot skydive but I love to jump with someone who is learning so much on each skydive that you can physically see the light bulb go on. It's awesome. Those of us with the skills to pay the bills better start stepping up to the plate. It makes me mad to see people paying others to jump with them we should be doing that for free. I know we all have to make a living but skydiving should be a passion not a biz. I am sorry to those who do work in the industy but I just don't like what the sport is turning into.HPDBs, I hate those guys. AFB, charter member. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apollard24 0 #8 February 19, 2006 Good for you (and them). It's always nice to have someone to talk to and hang out with at the dz. I feel very lucky to be at a small dz with wonderful people. I always feel at home when Im there. It does help if you make a move as well. I have never been one to sit on the sidelines, I just jump right in and make friends where ever I am. I myself am a newbie so I like to reach out and make other newbies feel welcome.Breathe out so I can breathe you in... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pincheck 0 #9 February 19, 2006 QuoteWas great, then winter came and they all went into hibernation. nah they don't really hibernate they just get the cheapest flight available and follow the sunNo doubt that you will get wondering feet soon enough its just one of those things new people new faces new gutters to waken up in Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #10 February 19, 2006 I have just gotten my coach rating and I really enjoy jumping with the students working towards their "A". My skills have improved by doing so. And seeing the smile on a student's face when they had a good jump is why I got my rating.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #11 February 19, 2006 QuoteThat time between graduation and getting your A is strange. You can solo, but that's when you need the most help. This is one of the primary reasons I got my coaches rating... I want to be able to help these people get their A license so they can play with others safely.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leapdog 0 #12 February 20, 2006 QuoteHi, A few jumps later I noticed they were hanging around and nobody really knew them so they remained on the fringe of the action. I made it a point to talk with them and remembered imediately that sense of excitement I felt at their point. I greatly appreciated those who recognized this with me and went that extra step to help a new jumper. This is what motivated me to get a coach rating, I get my return helping the new jumpers fit in and get thier A. Gunnery Sergeant of Marines "I would like it if I were challenged mentally at my job and not feel like I'm mentally challenged." - Co-worker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #13 February 20, 2006 That was really great of you-------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meux 0 #14 February 20, 2006 For me it seemed like the sidewalk ended at AFF7. After that I felt very alone. My thought is that the DZO should congratulate the newest jumper and give them some jumping assignments. Start working on the A card. Get those landings closer to the mark. I was lucky and had Scott Miller nearby, so I did his basic canopy course on jumps 13-18. Wow! What a great thing that was. Not everyone can do that. Why not have an instructor at each DZ do a similar 5 jump canopy course with each noob? Serves several purposes, primarily making that jumper better. Keeps them attached and plugged in. The sooner each person finishes their A license the more likely they are to stay and improve. Almost the same thoughts regarding tandems. How many people come out, do their one jump and leave with a cool video, never to be seen again? I make it a point to always say,"See you next weekend" to every person I see making a tandem jump. Why me? Why not the DZO or one of the instructors? I'm just a noob myself. Partly because I remember that weird feeling of wanting to belong,but being invisible. Walking around the DZ and no one talking to me. Just some stray voltage, as you were. Mo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_owen_uk 0 #15 February 20, 2006 QuoteHi, Forgive my length. Just sprayed coffee everywhere, where I am from your length means something very different.__________________ BOOM Headshot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites