460 0 #1 August 10, 2006 Do vegan pet owners force their dogs and cats to eat only vegan food? Soy for carnivores?Looks like a death sandwich without the bread - Steve Deadman Morrell, BASE 174 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #2 August 10, 2006 Don't know. But I'm a vegan owner. Keep a few caged up and throw carrots at them from time to time. They make good pets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #3 August 10, 2006 met a few people who did that. One of them lived out in the country & didn't want to feed the cat anything that had died cruelly, so no meat. The cat didn't much like the hippy veggie pseudo-cat food, so it would just nibble a little of it. Then it would go outside & kill a mouse REEEEALL slow! A friend's roommate in Hawaii was a veggie & made his cat eat veggie too. I don't think that cat looked right. Its belly was kinda swollen unnaturally. cats are carnivores, dammit! leave your BS politics out of it, I say. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #4 August 10, 2006 QuoteDon't know. But I'm a vegan owner. Keep a few caged up and throw carrots at them from time to time. They make good pets. How do you stand the smell?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goofyjumper 0 #5 August 10, 2006 I don't know but that avatar of yours is scary! ----------------- I love and Miss you so much Honey! Orfun #3 ~ Darla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #6 August 10, 2006 Some do. I do not. I believe in the food chain, naturally, but eat vegan a lot of the time for other reasons. Thus, imo, it would be wrong of me to force my animals to also "take a stand" with me. But, they definitely don't get as many animal products as others' pets. My cats' food is all wild caught seafood. My dog's food is is mostly vegetables & rice, but has salmon. Our bagel shop gives him ham all the time as a treat and he gets milkbone biscuits from others. From us he gets peanut butter treats and he loves soy cheese (soy is actually used in a lot of pet foods).For the record: I'm only vegan part of the time, vegetarian part of the time, and occasionally omnivore.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #7 August 10, 2006 Quotecats are carnivores, dammit! leave your BS politics out of it, I say Exactly.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #8 August 10, 2006 QuoteI'm not vegan b/c I think we're not meant to eat meat. pardon me... what does this mean? Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #9 August 10, 2006 Some vegans are such b/c they believe we should not eat meat at all. That is not why I eat vegan a lot of the time. Virgins! Have to explain everything to them... Edit: OK, I can see where you're confused... The statement can be ambiguous. I only love ambiguity when one meaning is dirty. I shall think of another way to word it...Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #10 August 10, 2006 Quote For the record: I'm only vegan part of the time, vegetarian part of the time, and occasionaly carnivore. Thank god for the smilie. Because this does not make a damn bit of sense. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #11 August 10, 2006 Of course it does. Check the battery on your hat, Captain Aluminum. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #12 August 10, 2006 QuoteQuote For the record: I'm only vegan part of the time, vegetarian part of the time, and occasionaly carnivore. Thank god for the smilie. Because this does not make a damn bit of sense. I thought I was the only one who thought so. You're either vegan or you're not. If you're not, you're an omnivore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
460 0 #13 August 10, 2006 QuoteI don't know but that avatar of yours is scary! It's the most menacing photo I have ever seen. Looks like a death sandwich without the bread - Steve Deadman Morrell, BASE 174 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #14 August 10, 2006 Not really. You are either one who eats plants, one who eats meat, or one who eats both. Just because one meal does not contain meat, does not make you a vegetarian. Likewise, if you eat only meat for another meal , you are not a necessarily a carnivore. Welcome to the world of omnivores. Because that is what you are. My hat takes no batteries. I see you don't know your foil hats very well. Figures. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #15 August 10, 2006 It could be correct...but I edited my chosen use of carnivore. This, however, I disagree with: QuoteYou're either vegan or you're not. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #16 August 10, 2006 Quote It could be correct...but I edited my chosen use of carnivore. This, however, I disagree with: QuoteYou're either vegan or you're not. Your meal at the time can certainly be vegan, but that does not necessarily make YOU a vegan.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #18 August 10, 2006 QuoteNot really. You are either one who eats plants, one who eats meat, or one who eats both. I'm so disappointed in your categorical limitations. Not everyone fits into such boxes so easily. I never eat pig---haven't since I was 11. I eat steak maybe twice/year. I have chicken maybe once every other month. I eat only wild-caught fish. 80% of my diet is soy/vegan based. That definitely puts me in a different category than your average sausage & egg breakfast, burger lunch and steak dinner people. I have no name-brand store products in my house---all household products are animal-friendly. I could go on...Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #19 August 10, 2006 QuoteYour meal at the time can certainly be vegan, but that does not necessarily make YOU a vegan. I never claimed to be. For a long time I was strictly vegan. By your logic, however, once I had my first bite of meat after 5 years I can no longer say I was ever vegan or vegan "part of the time" as I previously stated.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydemon2 0 #20 August 10, 2006 oooh please do........ reveal you complexes to us!!!Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clean to the bone! I like to start my day off with a little Ray of Soulshine™!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhur 0 #21 August 10, 2006 Quote cats are carnivores, dammit! leave your BS politics out of it, I say. That's right, Cats are pure carnivores and their gastrointestinal tacts are designed to break down high quality protein (i.e. meat) to utilize for energy and maintanance and can deal with organic matter such as cellulose and hemicellulose only to a very limited extent. If you feed your Cat vegetarian food and it has no other source of nutrients, it will die eventually, so don't do it. If you think its cruel to kill for food, then get a hampster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #22 August 10, 2006 Another question: Do vegan pet owners, who piss off their pets by making them eat vegetarian, ever get EATEN by their pets? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #23 August 10, 2006 QuoteQuoteYour meal at the time can certainly be vegan, but that does not necessarily make YOU a vegan. I never claimed to be. What? You said you are vegan part of the time. Look. Just accept that you made a mistake and we can move on to your next mistake. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #24 August 10, 2006 Quoteoooh please do........ reveal you complexes to us!!! I also eat the foods on my plate one thing at a time... Does that turn you on?Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #25 August 10, 2006 Which is great, and I commend you for that. The main reason I'm a vegetarian is not because I think it's wrong to eat meat, it's because of the harmful environmental effects of a society that eats way too much of it. If everyone were like you, I'd eat meat too. However, as far as definitions of words like "vegan" and "vegetarian" it doesn't put you in a different category. One is not defined as such based on how much meat one eats, but by one's willingness to do so at any given time. If you sit down to eat a meal and there is meat on your plate and you will eat it, whether once a day, once a week, once a month, etc, you are not a vegetarian. You are an omnivore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites