airtwardo 6 #1 April 25, 2007 Need a ruling here... I'm 1/2 way to a divorce because of my grumpy butt attitude all week, and I get THIS in a PM today. MY choice is a 'Penalty Pack' and keep going....but JUDGES...WE NEED A RULING! From Gonzo~ So, yesterday, I meet up with my buddy that just got back from Iraq at the field down the road where he's attending his Company picnic. As always, the beer sucked me in and I desired a smoke... I put it off for about an hour, but it finally got the best of me and I asked someone for a cigarette. I sat there for 45 minutes holding onto the damn thing, putting it in my lips and preparing to smoke, taking it back out, thinking I would be ok without. My buddy finally got me to give it away, but about a half hour later, he knew I still wanted a smoke, so he talked me into taking a dip instead. He said, "It's technically not smoking, so you should be ok on the bet thingy." So did I lose??? I mean, I didn't technically smoke, but I did use tobacco. Is it cheating? Do we restart? Do I owe $100??? Damn the beer!!!! It does that every time I quit! So, Thoughts??? Here is the bet thread~~ http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2772616#2772616 ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalesna 0 #2 April 25, 2007 I voted once for everything so I wouldn't affect the ruling, but I wanted to see the results... Some people refrain from beating a dead horse. Personally, I find a myriad of entertainment value when beating it until it becomes a horse-smoothie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #3 April 25, 2007 Quote I voted once for everything so I wouldn't affect the ruling, but I wanted to see the results... Looks like they have NO faith in us Bro! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalesna 0 #4 April 25, 2007 so does that mean we keep going from here? oh, and penalty PACK??? WTF? I had 1 dip... not a whole tin... geez...Some people refrain from beating a dead horse. Personally, I find a myriad of entertainment value when beating it until it becomes a horse-smoothie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #5 April 25, 2007 Quote oh, and penalty PACK??? WTF? I had 1 dip... not a whole tin... geez... Better than a Penalty CARTON...whith is what I'm NEEDING!! Besides, I can burn a pack in 1/2 the time you took SAVORING that pinch 'o jawin backie' ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwampThing 0 #6 April 25, 2007 Um...Didn't I see you smoking at an air show SATURDAY?! The Pessimist says: "It can't possibly get any worse!" The Optimist says: "Sure it can!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalesna 0 #7 April 25, 2007 The bet didn't start till Sunday night at Midnight (Technically monday morning)Some people refrain from beating a dead horse. Personally, I find a myriad of entertainment value when beating it until it becomes a horse-smoothie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalesna 0 #8 April 25, 2007 I only took about a half hour with some "fat lip" if you can smoke a pack in 15 minutes, my hat is off to ya, but you're not gettin my lung Some people refrain from beating a dead horse. Personally, I find a myriad of entertainment value when beating it until it becomes a horse-smoothie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #9 April 25, 2007 Quote The bet didn't start till Sunday night at Midnight (Technically monday morning) YEAH! What HE said!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #10 April 25, 2007 Quote I only took about a half hour with some "fat lip" if you can smoke a pack in 15 minutes, my hat is off to ya, but you're not gettin my lung Shoulda SEEN me killin' that carton this weekend...Prolly why I'm Jonesing so bad! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalesna 0 #11 April 25, 2007 Well, obviously, most don't think we can make it, but what's the decision on the field??? Continue? Restart? Disqualification? Some people refrain from beating a dead horse. Personally, I find a myriad of entertainment value when beating it until it becomes a horse-smoothie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalesna 0 #12 April 25, 2007 Quote Quote I only took about a half hour with some "fat lip" if you can smoke a pack in 15 minutes, my hat is off to ya, but you're not gettin my lung Shoulda SEEN me killin' that carton this weekend...Prolly why I'm Jonesing so bad! I told you to send me some so you wouldn't have that issue... but noooooooSome people refrain from beating a dead horse. Personally, I find a myriad of entertainment value when beating it until it becomes a horse-smoothie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingJ 0 #13 April 25, 2007 Seems like this part of the original thread sends the decision over in your favor, though they weren't outright banned, seems like they came into play pretty quickly considering the statement below: "Oh, and no cheating with other forms of tobacco... i.e. chewing tobacco, etc. I don't intend on using patches or gum or anything like that, but that one's up in the air with me... if you wanna use em, go for it... I won't... my half of it is gonna be without any stop smoking aids at all "Killing threads since 2004. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalesna 0 #14 April 25, 2007 DOH!!! Guess we have a decision on the field...Some people refrain from beating a dead horse. Personally, I find a myriad of entertainment value when beating it until it becomes a horse-smoothie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingJ 0 #15 April 25, 2007 Possibly, though I'd say DO OVER and keep on keepin on with the bet in order to try and quit. Maybe double or nuthin?Killing threads since 2004. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #16 April 25, 2007 Here's some help, incase you were thinking of chewing again: http://www.maricopa.gov/Public_Health/Community/images/oralCancer.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalesna 0 #17 April 25, 2007 Quote Here's some help, incase you were thinking of chewing again: http://www.maricopa.gov/Public_Health/Community/images/oralCancer.jpg So THAT'S where my real teeth went...Some people refrain from beating a dead horse. Personally, I find a myriad of entertainment value when beating it until it becomes a horse-smoothie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #18 April 26, 2007 Quote DOH!!! Guess we have a decision on the field... We keep GOING...and hopefully the grumpiness will be gone prior to my committing any FELONIES! BTW~ Went up 20 point in MY book Gonzo...for your HONESTY! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #19 April 26, 2007 Grey area. Beer fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #20 April 26, 2007 depends on intent, are you quitting smoking for health reasons, the nicotine? is so YOU LOSE. If you are quitting because it's socially unacceptable in many places and chewing 'baci is akin to shewing gum, then no you dont lose Why're you Quitting?You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingJ 0 #21 April 26, 2007 Quote We keep GOING...and hopefully the grumpiness will be gone prior to my committing any FELONIES! BTW~ Went up 20 point in MY book Gonzo...for your HONESTY! Bravo! The only way to lose is to quit quitting!Killing threads since 2004. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #22 April 26, 2007 nope your free to dip all you like as the 'oath' you took was to "quit smoking" granted, substitution isnt in the 'spirit' of the bet, but strict wording is important in bets, wishes and contracts. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamGardner 0 #23 April 26, 2007 Quote Damn the beer!!!! It does that every time I quit! FYI- Beer and tobacco go together like beer and peanuts at a bar. If you do not know the relationship let me explain- They put salty peanuts on the bar so you eat peanuts and get thirsty. Then you order more, and then you eat more peanuts which makes you thirsty again- Its a cycle; The relationship between TOBACCO and AlCOHOL is the SAME as between Salty peanuts and beer. The reaction in your brain is the same- the more you drink, the more your going to want that cigarette or snuff, or whatnot. Then when you get that smoke or chew- you want more beer. Its a cycle too. Very dangerous- you put yourself into a HIGHER PROBABILITY of getting lung cancers, mouth cancers, and thats not going to be an easy thing to explain to your children and/or grandchildren why you don't have a lower jaw due to dipping, or why you breathe through your stoma and/or why you talk with an artificial voicebox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #24 April 26, 2007 disconnecting the words "Bar and Peanuts" will go along way to helping your overall health as well... Bar Peanuts? yeesh why not go lick the bathroom floor too while you are there?____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamGardner 0 #25 April 26, 2007 Quotedisconnecting the words "Bar and Peanuts" will go along way to helping your overall health as well... peanuts are pretty darn good for ya, even if they have some salt on em. nothing like that natural fat but i do give you the benefit of the doubt, the people that eat the bar peanuts are typically people who need to watch it on the health side Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
