Audible Altimeters

[jlau90us 0]

Hey, I was wondering if anyone could shine some light on the new VISO for me. I'm looking into getting a pro-track, but I saw that a new line of L&B products came out.

On their website it says that the VISO acts as an electronic log book also, but when I search to buy it on websites, it is substantially cheaper than a protrack and in the website's description it doesn't say anything about being an electronic logbook.

Does anyone know if L&B came out with a newer version of their Pro-Track?

[bob.dino 0]

The Viso is not a direct replacement for the Pro-Track. Having no audible alarms, it's designed to be worn on the wrist as a digital altimeter.

The Optima is also not a direct Pro-Track replacement - it's got audible alarms for freefall and for canopy, but no log-book functionality.

The Solo is a cut-down Optima, with just the one set of freefall alarms.

So, it depends on the functionality you're after... a Neptune can do everything that a Viso and an Optima can do, but if you mount it on your wrist you can't hear the audible alarms, so you end up buying two anyway!

Make sense?

[fueler 0]

analog alti + protrack = done.

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[GravityGirl 0]

That would be the AltiTrak.

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[kelpdiver 2]

not audible.

[Bowen 0]

I’m a Neptune guy. Compare the cost and features of both. Then see what you can afford.

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[jurgencamps 0]

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I’m a Neptune guy. Compare the cost and features of both. Then see what you can afford.

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If you want/need a altimeter and a audible, you need two devices. So twice a device which can do both tasks (more expensive "overkill" device) or 1 altimeter and 1 audible?
If you use your neptune as an alti, you don't need the audible-function. If you use it as a audible, you don't need the altimeter-function.

J

[Joellercoaster 6]

Hmm.

Wishlist: Audible with freefall and canopy alarms, freefall logbook, visible altimeter.

As far as I can tell, a Neptune plus a standard analog altimeter is the cheapest way to go, with the least redundancy (the Neptune's visible display).

If I want to get the audible first because I don't care so much about the logging, then an Optima wins. And right now that's true. But after that, if I want a logger at some point, then anything I buy will give me multiple audibles.

Hang on, that's no bad thing - is it still true that BPA require two audibles for anyone doing head-down?

Hang on again, if I'm still in the UK by the time I'm doing HD, I have bigger problems.

Sod it, I'll buy a Neptune.

I think

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[tso-d_chris 0]

None of L&B's new products will be functionally equivalent to the Pro-Track.

If you want the audible with logbook features, you are limited to an Alti-2 Neptune or a Parasport Italia Skytronic GFX as your primary choices.

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[MrBrant 0]

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If you want/need a altimeter and a audible, you need two devices. So twice a device which can do both tasks (more expensive "overkill" device) or 1 altimeter and 1 audible?
If you use your neptune as an alti, you don't need the audible-function. If you use it as a audible, you don't need the altimeter-function.

J

Neptune + Neptune Wave =

[phoenixlpr 0]

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Neptune + Neptune Wave

Neptune + L&B Optima. Optima has even glide indication.

Wave is more expensive.

[bob.dino 0]

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Wishlist: Audible with freefall and canopy alarms, freefall logbook, visible altimeter.

Some options:

Optima + Viso.

Neptune + Viso.

Optima + Alti-Track.

Neptune Wave + Viso.

Optima + Neptune.

Optima + Analog alti.

Neptune + Analog alti.

etc, etc.

Lots of different combinations will work. Personally, I'd go for the Optima + Viso, because I'm leery of Alti-2's software development skills. If you need a second audible, buy a Solo or a 2nd-hand Pro-Track or Pro-Dytter.

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If I want to get the audible first because I don't care so much about the logging, then an Optima wins. And right now that's true. But after that, if I want a logger at some point, then anything I buy will give me multiple audibles.

Viso won't.

[Joellercoaster 6]

Yah, but it looks like the Viso doesn't have the log memory.

Although if all you want is the last jump in memory to write stuff in your logbook, and I do, that's fine.

Cool, decision made. Will order an Optima today.

Thanks!

[edit: Hang on. I am misinformed. Viso does better logging... nice.]

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[Cacophony 0]

All those Neptune functions seem to use up a lot of battery power. It really like having it on my wrist, but I didn't like it in my helmet. The log book stuff is nice I guess, considering that no 2 Neptune's read the same speeds even when in the same helmet side by side. My old Skytronic is way better as an audible, even without the canopy alarms.