NickDG 23 #26 September 13, 2008 I was out most of the night. You know, doing the things some jumpers do in the middle of the night NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #27 September 13, 2008 Quote What the fuck are you doing up at 5:50 am? Oldsters just get up early. Something to do with a weak bladder. "No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #28 September 13, 2008 Some new developments this morning. Metrolink has reported the cause of the accident was their engineer passing a red light. Also in looking at aerial photos of the area of the crash site there was one lucky break. If the crash would have occurred just 30 seconds later it would have been inside a tunnel. And in that case the results would have probably been more serious. This is now the worst train crash in California history. They still haven't moved the Metrolink locomotive or cars with the cranes yet, but when they do it's feared more bodies will be found. NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaH 0 #29 September 13, 2008 I haven't heard them mention anything about the crew of the frieght train. Seems hard to think they could have survived this. Be yourself! MooOOooOoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 3 #30 September 13, 2008 Quote I haven't heard them mention anything about the crew of the frieght train. Seems hard to think they could have survived this. unless they were in the back?CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #31 September 13, 2008 No, the freight train's crew of two hasn't been mentioned anywhere I've seen . . . I'm not one of those train crazies that would stand by the tracks taking photos and recording train numbers but I am a train buff. I love trains, and train travel and enjoyed being next to the big train museum in Perris when I was living in the Ghetto. And if you have an interest in trains (or even not) you'll love this. I heard this years ago but someone put it on Youtube in two parts and it's really worth a listen. It's the radio com between an engineer on a coal train in a runway situation (no brakes) and his dispatcher. The engineer's name is Wesley, and I won't give away the ending, but by then you'll be pulling for him . . . Part one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl07BrckR10 Part two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGo1PRvFlWA&feature=related NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #32 September 13, 2008 I was thinking this is another post about 2 Girls and a beverage container . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #33 September 13, 2008 Here's good update on things from today's LA times. I did hear one of their reporters faked being an injured passenger to get closer to the action, and I'm all for a free press, but that stinks . . . I also jumped the gun on the "worst train wreck" in California history which I heard on TV. That was actually in 1956 and that one killed 30 people. But the current death toll in this one is 25 and may still go higher. Both Engineers are now confirmed dead. They are saying 5 conductors between both trains survived so I think that means the lone freight train conductor survived as well. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-traincrash14-2008sep14,0,3660884.story?page=3 NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaH 0 #34 September 13, 2008 Quote No, the freight train's crew of two hasn't been mentioned anywhere I've seen . . . I'm not one of those train crazies that would stand by the tracks taking photos and recording train numbers but I am a train buff. I love trains, and train travel and enjoyed being next to the big train museum in Perris when I was living in the Ghetto. And if you have an interest in trains (or even not) you'll love this. I heard this years ago but someone put it on Youtube in two parts and it's really worth a listen. It's the radio com between an engineer on a coal train in a runway situation (no brakes) and his dispatcher. The engineer's name is Wesley, and I won't give away the ending, but by then you'll be pulling for him . . . Part one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl07BrckR10 Part two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGo1PRvFlWA&feature=related NickD Wow! YAY for Wesley. Who was the clueless person? Too many people talking.Be yourself! MooOOooOoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #35 September 14, 2008 It was a supervisor who came on the line to make sure Wesley didn't move the train, for investigation purposes. once he got her stopped. Which most people would have realized wasn't going to happen. And it was callous of him worrying about some investigation when Wesley's survival was still in doubt. And it's why it was so funny when Wesley says at the end, "Yeah, I'm all right, all I gotta worry about now is the typewriter." Because he knew he'd probably get written up for what happened. P.S. for Lisa, a typewriter was a popular 20th century mechanical device once used to create words on pieces of paper. NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaH 0 #36 September 14, 2008 Quote It was a supervisor who came on the line to make sure Wesley didn't move the train, for investigation purposes. once he got her stopped. Which most people would have realized wasn't going to happen. And it was callous of him worrying about some investigation when Wesley's survival was still in doubt. And it's why it was so funny when Wesley says at the end, "Yeah, I'm all right, all I gotta worry about now is the typewriter." Because he knew he'd probably get written up for what happened. P.S. for Lisa, a typewriter was a popular 20th century mechanical device once used to create words on pieces of paper. NickD I got that. Smartass.Be yourself! MooOOooOoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #37 September 14, 2008 Brutal last couple fo days. I've ridden that train a few times in the past. And the situation is Houston is tough (my first love lived in La Porte - which radar shows took a direct hit). My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #38 September 14, 2008 And here's the latest revelation . . . The crash occurred at 4:23 PM and at 4:22 the Engineer, who is now said to have passed a red light, was texting. He texted a group of rail fans who he regularly kept in contact with . . . and they received a text from him at 4:22. If this holds up it could be the reason he missed the red light. This was reported on LA radio news just a few minutes ago. NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaH 0 #39 September 14, 2008 Quote And here's the latest revelation . . . The crash occurred at 4:23 PM and at 4:22 the Engineer, who is now said to have passed a red light, was texting. He texted a group of rail fans who he regularly kept in contact with . . . and they received a text from him at 4:22. If this holds up it could be the reason he missed the red light. This was reported on LA radio news just a few minutes ago. NickD I smell lawsuits.Be yourself! MooOOooOoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #40 September 14, 2008 >>I smell lawsuits.Not only that, I smell the end of Metrolink . . . And I'm surprised Billy Vance isn't packing up to move to Chatsworth so he can "get some!" NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LisaH 0 #41 September 14, 2008 Not only that, I smell the end of Metrolink . . __________________________ Oh good grief, I hope not. There are enough cars on the road. Be yourself! MooOOooOoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #42 September 14, 2008 Quote And here's the latest revelation . . . The crash occurred at 4:23 PM and at 4:22 the Engineer, who is now said to have passed a red light, was texting. He texted a group of rail fans who he regularly kept in contact with . . . and they received a text from him at 4:22. If this holds up it could be the reason he missed the red light. This was reported on LA radio news just a few minutes ago. NickD This makes me think of a high school friend who lost her 16 year old daughter to a solo auto accident, crashed into a telephone pole, from being distracted from text messaging while driving. Her passenger survived the accident and is traumatized for life. Very sad _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #43 September 15, 2008 Quote And here's the latest revelation . . . The crash occurred at 4:23 PM and at 4:22 the Engineer, who is now said to have passed a red light, was texting. He texted a group of rail fans who he regularly kept in contact with . . . and they received a text from him at 4:22. If this holds up it could be the reason he missed the red light. This was reported on LA radio news just a few minutes ago. NickD Hmmmm, just after 4:20. I wonder if he was a relation to the captian of the Valdez."No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #44 September 15, 2008 Quote Quote And here's the latest revelation . . . The crash occurred at 4:23 PM and at 4:22 the Engineer, who is now said to have passed a red light, was texting. He texted a group of rail fans who he regularly kept in contact with . . . and they received a text from him at 4:22. If this holds up it could be the reason he missed the red light. This was reported on LA radio news just a few minutes ago. NickD Hmmmm, just after 4:20. I wonder if he was a relation to the captian of the Valdez. The only difference is the Valdez captain was drunk. The engineer made a critical mistake at the worst possible time. Texting kills. I know people who have had major wrecks texting and driving."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #45 September 15, 2008 Quote Quote Quote And here's the latest revelation . . . The crash occurred at 4:23 PM and at 4:22 the Engineer, who is now said to have passed a red light, was texting. He texted a group of rail fans who he regularly kept in contact with . . . and they received a text from him at 4:22. If this holds up it could be the reason he missed the red light. This was reported on LA radio news just a few minutes ago. NickD Hmmmm, just after 4:20. I wonder if he was a relation to the captian of the Valdez. The only difference is the Valdez captain was drunk. The engineer made a critical mistake at the worst possible time. Texting kills. I know people who have had major wrecks texting and driving. I'm thinking, you're missing the 4:20 reference. "High on Cocaine, driving that train. Casey Jones you'd better watch your speed." - The Grateful Dead"No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites