CSpenceFLY 1 #1 February 17, 2010 Anyone close by? They said all on the ground have been accounted for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #2 February 17, 2010 Nothing on local news in dago yet! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k-dubjumps 0 #3 February 17, 2010 I have a friend who said that power is out for most of Palo Alto because the plane took out some power lines, but that's all I've heard so far.Adrenaline is my crack DPH #3 D.S. #16 FAG #12 Muff Brother #4406 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #4 February 17, 2010 QuoteI have a friend who said that power is out for most of Palo Alto because the plane took out some power lines, but that's all I've heard so far. Kdub, Did you kid nap one of the Aussie's from Neds Biekr bar? RED hasn't been seen in 2 weeks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #5 February 17, 2010 http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/02/small-plane-crashes-in-east-palo-alto.htmlYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #6 February 17, 2010 QuoteI have a friend who said that power is out for most of Palo Alto because the plane took out some power lines, but that's all I've heard so far. Yeah... part of our team is in PaloAlto... and they and the datacenter are on backup generators. Our director sent an email telling everyone to just work from home down there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cashmanimal 0 #7 February 17, 2010 It's been super foggy all morning, wouldn't doubt if that played a roleIt's all fun and until someone loses an eye... then it's just a game to find the eye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LongWayToFall 0 #8 February 17, 2010 So what I have heard is this: A Cessna 310 took off from Palo Alto airport, in fog. They struck a power line support, taking out 3 high tension wires (this is why lots of the city is without power, including Stanford and Stanford hospital) the airplane then broke up (lost a wing I believe) and crashed into the back of a house, which had 3 people in it, although they all got out safely through the front of the house. It appears that some or all of the 3 people killed were employees of Tesla Motors, which is sad news. My dad is friends with a guy who works there, and I have toured their factory before, they are a good outfit. Sad day Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guppie01 0 #9 February 17, 2010 The Tesla employees were engineers. g "Let's do something romantic this Saturday... how bout we bust out the restraints?" Raddest Ho this side of Jersey #1 - MISS YOU OMG, is she okay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darhlt 0 #10 February 17, 2010 My heart goes out to their families. Does any one else think it's ironic that Tesla employees took out the power grid?No shit, there I was...thought I was gonna die... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LongWayToFall 0 #11 February 18, 2010 Haha, yeah that is ironic alright. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charliefox30 0 #12 February 18, 2010 Too soon to be out at NTSB.Gov, but did find this one: http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20100204X45658&key=2"If it suddenly ended tomorrow, I could somehow adjust to the fall; Good times and riches and sons of a bitches, I've seen more than I can recall!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #13 February 18, 2010 QuoteDoes any one else think it's ironic that Tesla employees took out the power grid? The tinfoil-hat folks on the internet are already calling this crash a covert act by big-oil! Incredible huh?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LongWayToFall 0 #14 February 18, 2010 That is the tow plane vs cirrus accident in CO, nothing to do with the one in Palo Alto.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charliefox30 0 #15 February 18, 2010 QuoteThat is the tow plane vs cirrus accident in CO, nothing to do with the one in Palo Alto.... Yes, I know, just saw the link and thought I'd post it here----"If it suddenly ended tomorrow, I could somehow adjust to the fall; Good times and riches and sons of a bitches, I've seen more than I can recall!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #16 February 18, 2010 Ummm...Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charliefox30 0 #17 February 18, 2010 QuoteUmmm...Why? Ok guys, sorry, my bad.............. I am an NTSB accident report regular reader and just thought I'd post the link. I know the difference between a Cirrus, C- 310 and a glider. I even know the difference between California and Colorado, believe it or not........ just thought I'd post the link if anyone cared to read it. Didn't expect the third degree.........."If it suddenly ended tomorrow, I could somehow adjust to the fall; Good times and riches and sons of a bitches, I've seen more than I can recall!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #18 February 18, 2010 No third degree here. Just wondered what the connection was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charliefox30 0 #19 February 18, 2010 QuoteNo third degree here. Just wondered what the connection was. Eh...... nothing I guess other than both accidents being recent."If it suddenly ended tomorrow, I could somehow adjust to the fall; Good times and riches and sons of a bitches, I've seen more than I can recall!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccq 0 #20 February 18, 2010 Yeah, we were without power all day today at my place in Palo Alto - from 7:45am until about 6pm. It's a sad accident, although I have to question the judgment of the pilot (I'm a private pilot and instrument rated and own an airplane based at the Palo Alto airport). The weather at the time of the accident was extremely foggy - 1/4 mile visibility with a ceiling that was indefinite/100ft (depending on the report). We NEVER have fog like that that doesn't burn off, so he would have been wise to wait a couple of hours for the blue sky and 65 degree day we had or at least until the ceiling lifted a bit. However, he was IFR and legal to file and fly from all reports (there are no departure weather minimums for Part 91 operations). Doesn't mean it was a good idea, though. Strangely, he ended up crashing into the neighborhood off to the left of the departure end of 31. Every instrument clearance I've received from PAO had an immediate climbing right turn out over the Bay which is away from obstacles and terrain. My assumption is that he lost one or both engines and then clipped the power line while trying to deal with the problem while IMC - failing to maintain altitude or heading. Lots of coulda/woulda/shouldas: Should have not launched in the first place. Could have landed straight ahead or to the right in the open marshland or Bay with a much higher likelihood of a survivable landing. Should not have turned toward the populated area if he was going to try and come around for landing (you can just as easily make right traffic over the Bay for 31). Should have kept flying his IFR clearance. Maybe just had horrendous luck and had an engine failure at the exact wrong time on a low IMC day. I suspect answers may be forthcoming from the NTSB, but that will take a year to bubble up. A sad day, indeed. --Q----- Chris "Q" Quaintance ccqquaintance.com D-23345 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #21 February 18, 2010 Will be interesting to get some info about the plane. I think I saw somewhere it was a C-310. They were powered pretty well and if RAM converted some of them had enough power to roll them over if one engine is lost and the pilot pushes the throttle up too far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k-dubjumps 0 #22 February 18, 2010 Quote Quote I have a friend who said that power is out for most of Palo Alto because the plane took out some power lines, but that's all I've heard so far. Kdub, Did you kid nap one of the Aussie's from Neds Biekr bar? RED hasn't been seen in 2 weeks! Nope, the only Aussie's I've seen have been on the Olympics. Adrenaline is my crack DPH #3 D.S. #16 FAG #12 Muff Brother #4406 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k-dubjumps 0 #23 February 18, 2010 Here's another article http://www.opposingviews.com/i/tragedy-strikes-3-employees-of-tesla-motors-killed-in-plane-crashAdrenaline is my crack DPH #3 D.S. #16 FAG #12 Muff Brother #4406 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #24 February 18, 2010 Quote Quote Quote ] Nope, the only Aussie's I've seen have been on the Olympics. I can remedy that for youYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
