Perris or Elsinore?

[steve1 5]

I was wondering which D.Z. is closest to Loma Linda Hospital near L.A. I have a bad postrate that needs radiation therapy for a couple months. I guess there's few side affects, so I plan to make some jumps. I guess I could always jump with a diaper, if I have to.

[oldwomanc6 38]

Perris is closer, but Elsinore is only ~20 minutes away from Perris, so either is within striking distance.

Good luck on your treatments, I hope all goes well.

lisa
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[oldwomanc6 38]

FWIW, on a lot of my jumps, at least one of my canopies had a diaper!

lisa
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[JerryBaumchen 1,061]

Hi steve,

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I have a bad prostrate

All guys at this age are prime candidates for this problem.

Best of luck to you.

I got together with a couple of 'older' jumpers on Veterans Day and about the only we talked about was prostrate problems & treatments.

It's getting scary out there,

JerryBaumchen

[kallend 1,644]

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FWIW, on a lot of my jumps, at least one of my canopies had a diaper!

Did it have a bad prostate?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[steve1 5]

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Hi steve,

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I have a bad prostrate

All guys at this age are prime candidates for this problem.

Best of luck to you.

I got together with a couple of 'older' jumpers on Veterans Day and about the only we talked about was prostrate problems & treatments.

It's getting scary out there,

JerryBaumchen

Jerry,
My doctor started explained treatment options to me last weekend. I felt like I was part of a horror story.....He started off by saying that one way to slow the spread of cancer in the postrate is castration. With fewer male hormones, it spreads less.

Then he said he could chemically castrate me by giving me female hormone injections. He also added that my breasts might start to grow after that. I never could picture myself wearing a braziere.

Then he said that they could cut out my entire prostate. This might involve the loss of four to six pints of blood, and who knows how many nerves he'd cut. A long recovery time would follow, and sex after that was doubtful. Did I mention you might have to wear a diaper the rest of your life.

One guy was a lawyer. He had his postrate cut out. After that he had to carry two brief cases to work. One was legal papers. The other was full of diapers. Every hour he had to change his diaper. I'm not sure if that was for the rest of his life or not.

Then there is the regular type of radiation that destroys all kinds of things down there that surround your postrate. This often leads a patients impotentcy or wearing a diaper.

Damn! It scared the hell out of me. Maybe I'm exaggerating some of this....but none of these options sounded good to me!

I don't have a lot of cancer down there. It's early. I've got a gleason score of 6....To hell with all those treatment options.

I did some research and found out that proton radiation has very few side affects. The treatment is painless. Loma Linda Hospital was the first to offer this treatment. It's expensive. I hope my insurance will pay for it. I figure I can skydive for a couple months while I get this done....

It's no fun, being an old fart!

[aphid 0]

I'd say "welcome to the club", but it's one we would all have preferred avoiding. I'm doing the hormonal thing right now, been getting it since May past.

I have encountered two guys who have strongly recommended this treatment from their own personal experience: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_focused_ultrasound#Prostate_cancer

I'm not familiar with proton radiation treatment so I'll research that now thanks to your post.

Best of success with your treatment regimen.

John

[JohnMitchell 14]

Chiming in with I passed the finger wave again this year, but I'll heed all of your advice and keep an eye on things.

Perris and Elsinore are both great DZ's. I think Perris has more belly fliers if that's your favorite. On busy weekends I think you can find anything you want at either place.

Good luck on the treatment.

[steve1 5]

After hearing all the options from that doctor, I told him that I wanted to make one thing perfectly clear...."You're not cutting my nuts off, ever!"

They say one out of six men will get postrate cancer. Some choose to do nothing other than watch it grow, because the treatment is so awful. The good news is that it is slow growing.

It's important to get a PSA test every year. A high number could mean cancer, or something else. That's how I found mine.

Most people don't know about proton radiation therapy. It's fairly new. It's by far the best choice in my opinion. A lot of urologists want to cut it out, because they are surgeons. This is a major operation that can leave you impotent or wearing a diaper the rest of your life. I've heard that one in 200 die on the operating table. It just didn't sound good to me. You might be able to have sex again if you load up on Viagra....or not.

I recently read a book by a guy who had prostrate cancer. He was treated at Loma Linda. He said his sex life was as good after the treatment as before. His cancer is gone.

I talked to one guy, who had really serious postrate cancer. It was even in his limp nodes. Most doctors figured he was going to die. He went to Loma Linda. His cancer is gone. It's been about five years since the treatment. He's married and still has a sex life.

If you have postrate cancer, check out Proton Therapy. It was new, ten years ago. Now they are building treatment centers all over the country. It looks like the best option to me. Most insurance carriers should cover it, even though it is twice as expensive as conventional methods of treatment.

My doctor tried to convince me that his methods were just as good.....I don't trust the guy.

[loudtom 5]

My turn to chime I guess...
Just had radical prostatectomy at Northwestern in Chicago. Davinci robotics. I am younger than most getting it at 52 so I wanted it out. I also had a second surgery on top of this to complicate things but my prostate stuff is top notch. My Surgeon's were great and stay was minimal with top of the line treatment. Age and symptoms should dictate what you do. All my tests came back clear so all we do is test and I hope it stays away. My score was 6 also and I got it early but since it can be so invasive I said get it out like two of my brothers out of 4 and my dad. We are all doing well...
I plan on jumping in the spring after Nov. 12th surgery. This is the worst thing ever for me but what ya gonna do???
Hope all your stuff works out yo.
lt p.s. if you go to Elsinore give Barry a kiss and hug for me huh. He expects it...

tom #90 #54 #08 and now #5 with a Bronze :-)

[Phillbo 11]

My father (76) was recently diagnosed. The doc at the Mayo said he only had 2 option. Radiation or removal. He stated that the radiation is a one shot deal, it turns the prostrate to mush so much that removing it after that i not advisable since they could not be sure to get it all.

He had his removed a few months back and is doing fine.... No clue about his sex life, i don't want to know :)

[steve1 5]

I think that is true. So, I hope this radiation works.

My Dad had his postrate removed. Then the cancer came back in the bed where the postrate once was. They were able to radiate the area and stop it.

My step-dad had postrate cancer. It was pretty bad. He chose radiation. Then the cancer came back. His only option then was female hormones to slow the cancer. I think they may be the only option.

I wish I knew more on this.

[BigMark 1]

Elsinore is sometimes closed on Tuesdays.

[DSE 3]

With the military around, Elsinore is open most Tuesdays in Dec.
Both are terrific DZ's, both have good organizers, Perris has a better restaurant/bar, Elsinore has better landing areas and view.

[BigMark 1]

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With the military around, Elsinore is open most Tuesdays in Dec.
Both are terrific DZ's, both have good organizers, Perris has a better restaurant/bar, Elsinore has better landing areas and view.

I did say sometimes, right?

Perris HAS a restaurant/bar. not a better one, your post could make the uninformed think Elsinore has one.

I like the landing area at Perris better, but you are right the view is better at Elsinore.

The packers are WAY friendlier at Elsinore and not as rough on your canopy.

[DSE 3]

Elsinore doesn't have a restaurant, but it does have a catering service with daily delivery, and has the hot-food cart with a limited menu and quite a few cold-offerings. And...there is always the dairy.
Difference in the landing area Different strokes for different folks.
Chill; my post wasn't a challenge, just additional information.