SStewart 13 #1 January 11, 2011 How about wing suits in trees? Wing suits in powerlines? Now there is a scenario...... Just sayinOnward and Upward! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #2 January 11, 2011 How many skydive wingsuiters have found themselves in an emergency situation and had to land in a tree fully zipped or partially zipped? How many skydive wingsuiters have had to land in a powerline partially or fully zipped? None that I'm -aware- of. However, there are at least four unintentional water landings, at least one of which was a fully zipped entry. You are entirely invited to fly a wingsuit into a tree and write about it. You're even more enthusiastically invited to fly your wingsuit into a powerline and write about it. Please get video. Just sayin.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SStewart 13 #3 January 11, 2011 Water is a hazard Trees are a hazard Power lines are hazard I would think you should have a plan for all hazards?Onward and Upward! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SStewart 13 #4 January 11, 2011 Spot I really do applaud your efforts to make wing suit jumps more safe but you have opened up a new can of worms. No one has landed a wing suit in trees yet. (that I am aware of) But, it will happen. Skydivers are famous for doing things for the first time. Some dork will land in powerlines wearing a wing suit so that will be something we will have to talk about. Do you really think water is the only hazard that jumping a wing suit would be, could be an issue? How many skydivers have drowned wearing a wing suit? How many have been electrocuted? How many have been killed by a tree? Just sayinOnward and Upward! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #5 January 11, 2011 Quote You are entirely invited to fly a wingsuit into a tree and write about it. Please get video. There is. Not a skydive however. Wingsuit gardening Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #6 January 11, 2011 Quote Spot I really do applaud your efforts to make wing suit jumps more safe Is it April 1st?I think that: -A wingsuiter going into trees is something we can't accurately test without harming the test "dummy" or spending significant resources on actual test dummies. I don't believe it will be tremendously different than a non-wingsuit tree landing due to the already-established protocols and the ability to hug a trunk and protect the face while wearing a wingsuit. If anything, a fully presented tail might affect the ability to wrap a leg around a tree. There are several BASE landings in trees with wingsuits. Perhaps those guys have input. -Wingsuits into powerlines on a skydive? I don't think it'll happen. Maybe. Not likely. If it does, I dont' believe it's -significantly- different than a regular skydive, even fully zipped in. That said, I could be entirely wrong about the above. Until the water tests we did, the prevailing wisdom was entirely anecdotal and diametrically opposed to best practices.Either way, it's all a good dialog, because it leads to discussions that may make educate and at the least provides food for thought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #7 January 11, 2011 oh well at the DZ I used to call home, we had a jumper do a 4-in-1 jump.... started with wingsuiting then after his AAD fired he did some Solo-CRew continued by some tree ride and finished by a river swim scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #9 January 11, 2011 Quote oh well at the DZ I used to call home, we had a jumper do a 4-in-1 jump.... started with wingsuiting then after his AAD fired he did some Solo-CRew continued by some tree ride and finished by a river swim Hate to buy the beer for THAT jump! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #10 January 11, 2011 There has has has to have been a base wingsuiter land into a tree before, hell on the KL tower there was a guy deploying THROUGH a treetop while fully zipped Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #11 January 11, 2011 Many.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #12 January 11, 2011 Quote There has has has to have been a base wingsuiter land into a tree before, hell on the KL tower there was a guy deploying THROUGH a treetop while fully zipped as mentioned before, there are several wingsuit BASE in trees. What I'd like one of them to tell us is how a wingsuit tree landing differs from a regular tree landing. One guy that has a couple of them tells me it's the same, for the most part. His rig has an LQRS on it, however, so that may make a big difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #13 January 12, 2011 Quote Quote oh well at the DZ I used to call home, we had a jumper do a 4-in-1 jump.... started with wingsuiting then after his AAD fired he did some Solo-CRew continued by some tree ride and finished by a river swim Hate to buy the beer for THAT jump! who said it was a first ?? scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psychonaut 0 #14 January 12, 2011 QuoteSpot I really do applaud your efforts to make wing suit jumps more safe but you have opened up a new can of worms. No one has landed a wing suit in trees yet. (that I am aware of) But, it will happen. Skydivers are famous for doing things for the first time. Some dork will land in powerlines wearing a wing suit so that will be something we will have to talk about. Do you really think water is the only hazard that jumping a wing suit would be, could be an issue? How many skydivers have drowned wearing a wing suit? How many have been electrocuted? How many have been killed by a tree? Just sayin Who are you? You make it sound like it's DSE's job and duty to educate you on EVERY POSSIBLE outcome. And it seems like you're giving him a stern look for what he has already done. I think you need to rethink your attitude. Would you rather have no information at all? Edit: Just sayin...Stay high pull low Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 3 #15 January 12, 2011 QuoteHow many skydivers have drowned wearing a wing suit? To the best of my knowledge, none. But at least four "very close," as the article points out How many have been electrocuted? AFAIK, none, and none landing in powerlines. How many have been killed by a tree? AFAIK, none Just sayin At the end of the day, how do you think emergency landings for buildings, trees, or powerlines should be different for a wingsuit vs a non-wingsuit skydiver? To me...the water part is quite obvious. The rest of it isn't. Looking forward to your input. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pms07 3 #16 January 13, 2011 QuoteQuoteHow many skydivers have drowned wearing a wing suit? To the best of my knowledge, none. But at least four "very close," as the article points out How many have been electrocuted? AFAIK, none, and none landing in powerlines. How many have been killed by a tree? AFAIK, none Just sayin At the end of the day, how do you think emergency landings for buildings, trees, or powerlines should be different for a wingsuit vs a non-wingsuit skydiver? To me...the water part is quite obvious. The rest of it isn't. Looking forward to your input. DSE, Concur with your thoughts and I will say thanks for your efforts to spread wingsuit education. The articles you've posted are well written and thought out. pms Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
