TomAiello 25 #1 September 7, 2004 Here's a still frame grabbed from a jump we (DexterBASE, KMonster and I) did yesterday. Can anyone figure out what's happening?-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #2 September 7, 2004 McFreefall/Rollover Assist?Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sabre210 0 #3 September 7, 2004 A Doublehanded PCA McSandwich with extra cheese. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #4 September 7, 2004 Looks like you did a McConkey to a PCA to Dexterbase and Katie? Looks pretty cool. Do you have a higher res shot you can email me? tim at hookitt dot com will work. Edit...I think katie is being PCA'd too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #5 September 7, 2004 Stefan shot the vid. I PCA'd both of them (one on either side). The only stills I have are screen shots (hence low quality), but I put a (low quality) video up on my web page, and uploaded a (higher quality) version to skydivingmovies.com.-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #6 September 7, 2004 haha.. You posted at the same time I edited. I'll see if S has a good shot of that. Crazy f***ersMy grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
460 0 #7 September 7, 2004 Daisy chain McConkey or Daisy McConkeyLooks like a death sandwich without the bread - Steve Deadman Morrell, BASE 174 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #8 September 7, 2004 Perhaps McDaisey? I knew someone would have a name for this before long.-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
460 0 #9 September 7, 2004 McDaisy sounds perfect!Looks like a death sandwich without the bread - Steve Deadman Morrell, BASE 174 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jalisco 0 #10 September 8, 2004 A Two-Fisted McDaisy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyh 0 #11 September 8, 2004 You can only call it a McDaisy if one of the jumpers started with daisy-chained lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
460 0 #12 September 8, 2004 Daisy chain jumps are somewhat historical in BASE. This is when one jumper, upon his or her deployment, pilot chute assists another jumper. Of course, recent jumper have taken the concept of daisy chain to a different but idiotic level by jumping with daisy chained lines.Looks like a death sandwich without the bread - Steve Deadman Morrell, BASE 174 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #13 September 8, 2004 How about McChain Reaction ? It was the first thing that came to mind when i saw the jump. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #14 September 8, 2004 In light of recent launch and deployment methods some of these indeed need new names. Historically however, this was called a "Rodeo Jump." I've uploaded two new photos to my personal gallery here on DZcom (under NickDG), but they haven't been approved yet. The first shows a 1988 rodeo jump from a ship channel bridge here in SoCal, and the other, also from 1988, showing some early aerobatics . . . Nick BASE 194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #15 September 8, 2004 Quote...Rodeo Jump. Excellent name. We kept looking at the still and thinking "what does it look like?" It does look like some kind of rodeo maneuver. Was it called that before the term "rodeo" came to be used in skydiving, to describe a piggyback style jump?-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #16 September 8, 2004 Gee, it's tough to remember now, but when Norman Kent's "Ride a Cloud" movie came out (I think it was his first one) it featured what people were calling a "Rodeo dive." It was a female sitting upright on the backpack of a belly flyer. I can't recall what year that was, but the late 1980s sounds right. When I saw that 1988 bridge jump I immediately thought, "rodeo dive." When one jumper deploys another jumper's canopy (by virtue of their own deployment) that's called a "daisy chain" and goes all the back to the 1960s. You can see a three way daisy chain in the movie Carl Boenish filmed called the, "Gypsy Moths." Bob Sinclair also used something like that (a zap strap) during "buddy jumps" the precursor to AFF, in case his student didn't pull, way back in the early 60s. Using the name daisy chain though makes one think the lines are daisy chained. I was rigger on scene once when a pilot bailed out of a sailplane he'd just bought. The parachute he got with the deal was incorrectly field packed, it was closed correctly with the ripcord, but the canopy was just stuffed inside with the lines daisy chained. And the daisy chained were put in the wrong way or else it might still have worked. Anyway, I think the name "rodeo dive" came from skydiving, so maybe we should come up with something else. I remember Alan Hearthington saying he told the jumper above him, "I'm counting on you, buckaroo." Buckaroo? Nick BASE 194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #17 September 8, 2004 Quote..."daisy chain"... How about "ooopsy daisy"?-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blu 0 #18 September 8, 2004 What was wrong with "McDaisy"???? ***Keep it fun, stay alive*** Safe swoops Azul Follow Orbita on Twitter @freeflyorbita Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #19 September 9, 2004 Here's the photos I mentioned upboard . . . Nick BASE 194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
460 0 #20 September 9, 2004 Hey Nick, the aerobatic jump was from a well known Houston bridge. I'm unfamiliar with the "rodeo" jump shown. I heard BASE 38 refer to the one with Alan H. and George R. as daisy chain.Looks like a death sandwich without the bread - Steve Deadman Morrell, BASE 174 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #21 September 9, 2004 I've actually got some video (BASE 38 gave it to me) that shows aerobatics off that bridge, in the way back.-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterBase 0 #22 September 10, 2004 It's not a "Mc"anything... McConkey is a somewhat accepted reference to an unpacked rollover move. I guess Shane McConkey did an early one and the name sort of stuck... sort of. I was a little focused on the jump while we were doing it so I could be wrong but I'm reasonably certain Mr McConkey wasn't around. Therefore, I see no need to have a "Mc" in the name of the move. We need a cool name, a crazy name. How about the "holy crap-I think I'm going in-I have no PC to toss-wait a second-It opened!" move? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KMonster 0 #23 September 10, 2004 Hey Tom, How about "'Teh' double fist over of doom?" Dexter and I just drove to norcal and had lots of time on the road to think of silly names. Katie. I think Stefan wins quote of the weekend too, "I was just watching all this stuff unfold and was like, 'ugh'!!" as he sidefloated video of us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #25 September 10, 2004 >>Hey Nick, the aerobatic jump was from a well known Houston bridge. I'm unfamiliar with the "rodeo" jump shown. I heard BASE 38 refer to the one with Alan H. and George R. as daisy chain. << Yes, I'm familiar with the Houston bridge. The other one (rodeo jump) is here in Southern California and is still being jumped. And it's a very cool little object that can be S/Led or PCA'd from the bottom, and if you are very stealthy and very careful it's also freefallable from the very top. It's just been a bit harder now with all the extra security around that area. Nick BASE 194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
