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  1. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    This is the way I always had it figured as well. You have to wonder what the hell Cooper was doing for a half hour between the time he popped the stairs and when he finally jumped. That is approximately 90 miles and a half hour through the air at the speed 305 was at. I have to examine some of the maps...
  2. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    Maybe, but Mucklow and he had a short conversation after takeoff, and apparently BEFORE the door was opened. She asked about a rope to tie around herself. She was worried she would get sucked from the aircraft. I have to look at where the jet was at 742. I can figure a bit out right now. Airborne at 734, that is eight minutes flying time. Full cruising speed would not be achieved right away. Maybe twenty miles or so south of Sea Tac when door first opened. If so, this makes it unlikely any placard was later just 'blown off' down by Castle Rock, (much further south) due to air currents. More like someone either tore it off purposely later in the flight, or it didn't come from Flight 305 in the first place.
  3. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    Maybe Cooper wasn't as inexperienced with a chute as the FBI claims. He could have figured out with a cursory check that the trainer reserve was useless to him, but if the NB8 failed to open, he could still climb back up into the cabin and try the other backpack. Why toss out the only other good chute? On a side note, if any of you need access to the old Sluggo N467 website, you can find it (with all links to files, maps, pictures etc still working, at the Internet Archive HERE. You learn something every day on this damn case. For example, Sluggo claims on his site that the airstairs were first opened at 0742PM, but the oscillations came just prior to 0812, and ended at that time. This would mean a half hour difference between when Cooper opened the door and when he jumped. I have downloaded some of Sluggo's maps to see if I can figure out where the jet was at 0742. A half hour is a long time. I wonder what Cooper was busy doing back there. If this timeline is even close to accurate, maybe Cooper DID change clothes and put on boots before he jumped. He already had the chute on pretty well when Mucklow went forward. What the hell was he doing for all that time before finally jumping? It's even possible that putting on the chute initially in front of Mucklow was a ploy, and after she was gone, he took it back off and changed into other clothing. A half hour? That's a while...
  4. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    Good question. First, we know it wasn't on the jet in Reno. Second, we know it couldn't be attached to anything due to lack of D rings. So what do you do with it? He probably tossed it out for the same reason he tossed out the briefcase...to throw off a ground search, should the items be found later. (Briefcase...well that was just ditching the evidence as well.) The jet was traveling at about three miles per minute. Even a three-to-five minute delay between door opening, and the actual jump would increase the square mileage of the search area by a large factor. Accounting for a one-mile drift to the starboard or port side of the aircraft, each minute in flight adds a minimum of nine square miles to the search area. Even if you narrow the jump time to a three minute window, this would create a search area of almost 30 square miles...a nearly impossible area to cover unless you were searching over the Bonneville Salt Flats or something. I still believe that if the briefcase and the non working reserve chute exist out there, you would find them somewhere south of where they found the placard perhaps. Or maybe between Pigeon Springs and the Amboy area.
  5. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    For the record, this is my theory of how Cooper jumped, and what he did with the extraneous gear: (Not that anyone's asking, but here it is.) *I came back and edited some of this later, to better match the actual timeline of what happened. Cooper is watched by Mucklow cutting lines from the other reserve chute and securing money bag. He secures the money bag to his waist, leaving a long line between the bag and his waist, as (yes) someone with paratrooper experience might do. (See picture) Or, to be fair, Cooper may have seen this done in a movie, or on TV. Mucklow saw him putting on the chute and cutting and tying the lines to the bag, but nothing else, and nothing having to do with the paper bag. Then she is gone. Mucklow is now gone per Cooper's instructions, up forward with the flight crew. He finally gets the airstairs to drop. He rolls up the paper bag and stuffs it under his shirt, or (yes) even down his pants a bit. The reason I theorized this idea was because Cooper put on the chute and cut lines from the other reserve chute without changing clothes. However, it is almost a half hour between the time Cooper opens the door, and when jump oscillations are felt in the cockpit. This COULD mean Cooper changed his clothes after Mucklow went forward, and that his initial donning of the chute in front of her was just a ruse. There is a final call from the cockpit, which Cooper answers. Cooper throws both the briefcase and the non working reserve out the back of the jet. Cooper turns around, holds money bag with one hand, the stair railing with the other, and starts backing down the stairs. As he moves down, the stairs drop with his weight. The noise from the three jet engines would have been tremendous, and nearly deafening. When he reaches the end of the stairs, he drops the money bag on the stairs and pulls the ripcord. The reason he doesn't just leap off the stairs is because he can't be sure the FBI-provided chute will actually work, and he has no reserve chute. If the chute doesn't open, Cooper can still go back up into the jet and try the other backpack. The chute flutters out behind him, in a process known as 'squidding,' until it inflates and pulls him right off the stairs. The opening shock for this would not be that bad. The C-9 canopy has been used by the military for jet ejections. When he comes off the stairs, they rebound up to ALMOST a closed position, and then settle back down a bit. It is at this moment when Flight Engineer Anderson sees the Airstairs Indicator light flash OFF for a moment (stairs almost close) and then come back ON (stairs settle back down) for the remainder of the flight to Reno. He floats to the ground with the money bag hanging a few feet below him. He finally hits the ground and then whatever was in the paper bag now comes into play. Anything past that is guesswork.
  6. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    This question is better answered by people more knowledgeable than I in the finer details of the hijacking. (And why the movie producers wanted to hire one or two additional people in the know on these things to look at the upcoming script.) That isn't a plug. It's just a fact, and why I approached Bruce Smith for this job. My best answer is that the briefcase was probably your typical rectangular, box-type briefcase, and likely not an expensive one. It was a common thing for people to carry these back in the day, before laptops came along...or even personal computers or smart phones for that matter. Everything was paper for businessmen, so they carried this stuff in a briefcase. It would look perfectly normal. The paper bag has been described as a shopping bag, but probably not the usual brown type you see at the Safeway or the Fred Meyers...but probably about the same size as one. The Big Mystery is what Cooper was packing in that bag, because it was not found on board the jet after the jet landed in Reno. Neither was anything else that could have been INSIDE the bag. So whatever was in there had to be a part of the Cooper Plan, as it were. There have been a million guesses as to its contents. Maybe a pair of boots, a map, a compass, a little food, who knows? Perhaps a light jacket or some other clothes. It is impossible to say. The only thing you CAN say with certainty is that Cooper didn't want anyone to see what was IN the bag...so I lean toward clothing as being a part of the contents. Cooper would know people would be looking for him on the ground dressed in a suit. Maybe he took precautions to change his appearance when he reached the ground. I still think some of these things are laying around somewhere in SW Washington. Either that, or he buried the evidence when he reached the ground. But one thing I am almost certain he pitched out the back was the briefcase with the bomb and probably the non working reserve. The reserve had no way to attach, and jumping with a briefcase might result in you being bashed in the head by that same briefcase.
  7. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    I'm not in favor of boycotting over the anthem thing, but I also disagree with players doing that. But for a more practical reason. NFL players make a lot of money, and if they want to stage protests on TV they should pay for that TV time on their own and not take advantage of air time they didn't arrange, or did not pay for. Then they can stage all the protests they want. BACK TO COOPER: I read the FBI document you posted back there about how the money was provided to Cooper. I do not see anything in it that says the money was packaged in anything except packets of $20 bills at one hundred bills or so each. Haven't you said previously that these packets were also put together in larger bundles? Document is pretty simple. Says nothing about that. This packaging makes sense on a couple of levels. It explains how $5800 at Tina Bar means three packets were found together, and why Cooper would not have pulled more than two or three packets out to offer to a stew, if he actually did that. If Cooper really did pull out three packets in some offer to a stew, this would be six thousand or so...a reasonable amount. If he he pulled out three...and it actually added up to something like $24,000 because you say the packets were larger....this would be more than ten percent of the total ransom. This is a figure that even a generous hijacker probably would not have been willing to part with. Maybe the truth is as simple as it appears. A hundred individual packets were given to the hijacker. And that was all. And rubber bands were probably installed on all of them, maybe leaving in place (or maybe not) the original paper bands that were on them at the bank. The rubber bands would be tossed on them to keep the bills from coming apart, since the paper bands don't hold the money together very well in transit. Because of Cooper's demands, EVERYONE involved realizes the hijacker plans to jump from the aircraft. If they don't secure the money a bit better, it could end up as green snow from 10,000 feet and recovering it later might be impossible. Sounds to me like they just grabbed a hundred paper-banded packets of $2,000 each (standard way money is packaged by banks, i.e. one hundred bills per paper-banded packet) slapped rubber on them, and tossed them into the bank bag. There was also a time pressure factor here, and getting from downtown Seattle in the late afternoon, early evening on a pre-holiday ain't easy on I-5. EDIT: They probably took Highway 99 out of downtown to the airport, not I-5, which would have been longer route in 1971. And the traffic south out of Seattle on 99 in the afternoon, early evenings to the airport is historically bad. REALLY bad. *As you can tell, I decided not to work today. Game last night was just TOO much excitement. I said the heck with it and rescheduled today's job.* One more exciting thing coming my way just prior to Thanksgiving, though. I am bringing in a housesitter that week for the cat, and Gayla and I will be flying down to San Diego for Thanksgiving. When we leave, I will have the script to the Cooper movie in my hot little hands (*finally!*) after almost three years of waiting. I will be reviewing it on the flight down and making notes on suggestions to it to improve it. Someone else, the guy who got the script job turned down by Bruce Smith, will be looking at it as well. Our job is to suggest changes to make it more accurate to the known historical facts, especially the part between when Cooper boards, and when he jumps. Sounds like they're really going to do it next year. I have been told they are going for a late 2020 release to coincide with the 50th anniversary. I'm also hoping the studios make an announcement at around the same time, so that I can finally be free of that damned confidentiality agreement and be more open with people on what all that entails.
  8. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    Boycotting the NFL? Like that matters, Flyjack. Since revenue sharing came in, an NFL team can go 0-16 each year and still make money. If it's a moral issue for you, I can accept it. But your boycott won't affect a thing. Football isn't WORTH boycotting. Animal cruelty practiced by this company or that is worth boycotting. A company making a product they know is dangerous, or causes harm to the people who buy it, well...there you go. Football is just football. I think we need a Cooper break here. Latest pictures of 'Coco the Office Cat' at AB of Seattle are below. No worries. It's a special breakaway collar with a bell. For safety.
  9. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    Non-Cooper...but you just witnessed one of the greatest games in Monday Night Football history. I never had a doubt on the second kick by Myers. He wasn't letting Russell Wilson down, no way in hell. Beat the UNBEATEN...on the road. And SF will wrap their season up in Seattle this year. (*insert evil laugh here*) Go Hawks.
  10. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    The Detlor report is clear. They call Barry Halstead at Pac Aviation. Halstead calls up Hayden and Hayden sends up his two back pack chutes by cab. This makes sense because Hayden didn't own, and never had any intention of ever buying a front reserve chute. He only wore the backpack grudgingly, he said. He was forced to wear one by the rules established for sport flying. Meanwhile, Cossey claims he was called personally by either the FBI or NWA? That is hogwash. They did the same thing they did for the backpacks. They called a place out of the phone book, or one suggested to them...Issaquah Sky Sports. Cossey never went there that night, as well. If he had, NWA wouldn't have received a non-working chute. State Patrol shows up to pick up two reserves. The guy at Issaquah Sky hands over a working reserve, and one that didn't work. There ARE no records of any other chutes being sent to the airport that night. Just because the FBI guys in Reno may have misread a number doesn't mean six chutes were delivered. Both Cossey and Hayden agree that Cossey re-packed an NB8 for Hayden a few months prior to the hijacking. Cooper jumped with an NB8. The working reserve was popped and is still being held as evidence. The non working one was tossed out the back, most likely. The chute returned to Hayden was the Pioneer. Cooper jumped with the NB8. There are no other chutes. The only weird possibility I can imagine is if the FBI decided to keep it secret...IF the non working reserve was left on board, and not missing from the aircraft as they said. There is also something else here. The airline was insistent on complying exactly with Cooper's demands. Cooper asked specifically for two front and two back chutes. And that's exactly what he got. Why would they send him more chutes than he asked for? You think perhaps some 'extras' were delivered to the airport, but there is no record of that.
  11. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    Earl Cossey: Same guy who wrote off the parachute found in Amboy, WA in 2008 by claiming it was silk, and not nylon. Which by the way is NOT true. It is nylon. We've been down this road before, and I will only say this: I have interviewed Norman Hayden previously, and at length. Before he ever saw the report by FBI agent John Detlor, his descriptions of the chutes he sent matched that report. No prompting from me, and he never saw the report previously. And yet his testimony matched the report. THEN I sent him a copy of the report, which he later put into a frame.
  12. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    Well, he seldom does poorly, that's for sure. Fanduel is blocked in WA state. That's probably why I had not heard of it. You could win if you bet strictly on Wilson, I suppose. I had to clean the house today including the bathroom. Guests coming. We're firing up the BBQ later.
  13. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    No Cooper stuff today, except for posting the latest '100 Hijackers/100 Days' entry at Quora, courtesy of author Brendan Koerner. Some of you already know his book about the OTHER American hijacker who got away with it: Catherine Kurkow from Coos Bay, Oregon. Now there's a lady I would like to meet. The book about her and her boyfriend Willie Holder is one of the best out there, titled The Skies Belong to Us - Love and Terror in the Golden Age of Hijacking. Holder turned himself in upon his return to the USA. Kurkow slipped away from the French court system and most likely picked up a new passport under an assumed name at the US embassy in Switzerland. She has never been seen since and would be close to 70 years old now. She spoke fluent French and many people think she's living back in France, or maybe Belgium. Europe is almost a certainty. She also got monetary assistance from people who (back then) supported 'radical chic,' a term for people who committed crimes on a political basis. Picture below of Kurkow next to a picture of my high school girlfriend, Georgia. Georgia is the blonde on the left. As far as Kurkow, the FBI still has an active warrant out on her for air piracy and extortion. Georgia is pretty harmless. (The reason I said 'no Cooper stuff today' is because this household is preparing for the BIG MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL game between the Seattle Seahawks and the San Francisco 49'rs. Some visitors are coming for the game and dinner. I don't give the Hawks more than a one in three chance of winning, but you never know. )
  14. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    Yeah, I saw the Mitchell interview. One question was really lacking, which proves my point about these interviews. I would have asked: "Have you ever seen pictures of any of the major suspects and dismissed that suspect out of hand, based on the picture? If so, which suspects did you dismiss?" That would have been an obvious question. They missed the opportunity completely. Funniest thing I have seen today, Cooper-related: Uh, no...that would be the page at Quora dot com with the 1,266 or so followers.
  15. RobertMBlevins

    DB Cooper

    Fifty years after the fact, there is more to the Cooper case than just the case itself, which has been discussed endlessly. There are dozens of documentaries, websites dedicated to Cooper, pages AT websites dedicated to Cooper, news articles about personalities involved in the case, just an entire world of 'Cooper Stuff'. There are people who front themselves up as experts who will tell you anything you want to know, as well as offer their solutions. To ignore these things exist, and to deny they have an effect with the public is pointless, because they DO exist. For example, when we toss the Cooper Campouts, we've gone max capacity or close every time. (Except the time we went to the Mt. Hood area in Oregon.) So the public is out there, trust me on this. And the public deserves to know the truth about everything and everybody involved in all of this. Over the last ten years or so, the majority of discussion about Cooper doesn't involve who done it. It actually involves the people surrounding the case, aka Cooperland. I will always be the first to support anything in Cooperland, as long as it a positive. And when it is a negative, I will (yes) come down on them like a load of bricks. But it goes the other way as well. I have had negativity sent my way occasionally. Some deserved perhaps...and sometimes not. That's just the way it is. If you want any trust from the public, you have to be ready to: 1) Answer questions honesty if you can, if you aren't violating some trust you agreed to previously. 2) Get ready to take your lumps occasionally, because no one is perfect. 3) Try to do better after you take those lumps. 4) Refuse to support anything that is negatively slanted in the case. EDIT: Side note on the Washington State Historical Society. They wouldn't know what to ask in an interview if the instruction book was dropped into their laps. Most of the interviews they did for the Cooper exhibit were a waste of time. I have visited the museum several times. Sure, it's nice. But curators should stick to what they know best and leave the Cooper interviewing to the experts. I pulled the plug on participation with them after they demanded Gayla's Social Security Number and said they wanted to buy copies of Blast for the exhibit. (Our tax ID number for AB of Seattle wasn't good enough for their records they said) I told them they could pick up a few copies at Amazon, and dumped further communication with them.