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  1. Too bad about the spammer. They will get around to banning him again soon. In the meantime, when he does this, just hit the Ignore button on him. Then all you see is this. It's very convenient, and quick and easy to do.
  2. We agree on this assessment of things. A bomb is a good threat. A gun only provides you with two choices. If they don't comply, you can start shooting. And if you have any kind of soul or character, it isn't as easy as you think to just shoot someone for money. Or...if the key moment comes and you find you just aren't the murdering type, you can toss out the gun and surrender. The bomb is a threat, too. But it is also a better bluff than a gun and can do more damage. Personally, I think the bomb was a phony.
  3. ('That Guy' is back, this time he's 'Jerry Warner'. Don't forget to click on his name and go to his profile and hit the ignore button on him. Makes all of his posts vanish like magic. I'm actually getting good at doing that. Posts reported, of course.) Cooper Vortex says in part: That is partially true. But it doesn't tell the whole story. We have already discussed this at length privately, as you know. I dropped you from the Contributor list at the Quora Space on Cooper, and from consideration for participation in the movie, mostly for supporting the SECOND convention...after you were informed about Eric's poor behavior at Numero Uno convention. And also about his actions accepting the invitation to host the event in Portland...simply to make sure he could try to rid Cooper fans of it. Which he succeeded in doing. A lot of work down the drain, a lot of people were disappointed. You knew all about it, and still supported the second CooperCon enthusiastically. I couldn't reconcile that at all. I will not work with people who don't have the guts to stand up for what is right, or what is the truth. Had you and a few other people stood up for AB of Seattle's honest and straightforward approach to the Portland event, instead of sucking up to a liar and a scammer...I would not have had to make the choice I did. And Eric, without support from some of the main folks who ended up showing for him at Kiggins, would have kept his word and hosted the Portland event instead as he said he would. You and others were the 'enablers' for him. And settled for a rather lame event, instead of the Big Cooper Celebration that you COULD have had. At least I saved myself a couple of thousand bucks. That's one way of looking at it. What did you all end up with? Not much. Our plan was much better than Eric's lame event...and Eric was to host the whole thing. A thousand bucks in Amazon gift cards as prizes for the Lookalike Contest, live music at Mississippi Studios, a famous Hollywood star either showing up (likely) or providing a video, (less likely), same speakers since Eric was to arrange the schedule, two short films, the cast of Decoded appearing (one flying in from Maryland after a stint with the Army Reserve in Afghanistan) almost certainly an SRO event where Cooper authors would have experienced a boost in sales afterward, free food, the list goes on, on, on. Instead...you got Ulis' alternate version, which in my opinion wasn't much at all. Picture below of a typical event at Mississippi Studios, or if advance tickets had warranted, the larger venue at Revolution Hall that was held in reserve if we needed it. Truth is, you guys keep shooting yourselves in the foot SO much...I'm surprised you are not going around in wheelchairs. One thing is for sure. I am not trying to organize any further Cooper events. (Even another Cooper Campout is doubtful at this point, but that is for other reasons.) And just so you'll know...it wasn't my idea to put together that whole package. I was ASKED to do it by others. And I don't like to have my time wasted by some scammer and his cronies. Eric is about as dumb as a box of hammers anyway. He was told that if wanted to do HIS event instead and not host the Portland event, we would be willing to schedule the Portland event to a different day, so as not to conflict with his. But instead he scammed everyone by accepting the hosting job in Portland when he had no intention of following though. He could have just refused the job, you know. In that case, the host would have been Jim Brunberg. Later, I got a couple of reports that some of the Portland event sponsors and organizers were receiving poison-pen emails saying we were liars, scammers, etc etc. Brunberg had warned people he wasn't putting up with that crap, you know. And before anyone starts saying this event was a promo for AB of Seattle or myself...I wasn't even going to attend in person anyway. I had to be in San Diego for Thanksgiving. We just arranged a few things and everything else was to be handled by Jim Brunberg and yes...probably Eric...since he was supposedly the host. But we did it because other people wanted some kind of replacement to the Ariel Store party. Combining the convention with a party seemed like the best idea. Basically, we put our money where our mouths are (again), and basically the main players in Cooperland rejected it. Your loss, not ours. At least I didn't buy the Amazon cards in advance.
  4. Well, I gave it to you (and everybody else who hangs out here) the straight-up, 100% complete story on how the film came to be...and you choose to call it all a lie. I will address some of your points, though. I never said they were going to the Cooper Forum exclusively. They went all over the internet to the usual stuff I'm sure. I only know the Cooper Forum was one of the first places they checked. And they were hanging out there, probably Wiki, researching articles, whatever, for at least two months before they contacted me. Nobody said you were stupid. Yes, we discussed Cooperland at length. They asked me what all the hatred was about. Seems reasonable. You guys were really going off with that stuff back then. Not so much these days, except at Smith's place. But you were. And it got their attention. Yes...they WERE annoyed at not being able to access any content beyond straight text at the Cooper Forum. Yes...the offer to Bruce was legit. He didn't even ask to see the contract. Two reasons I made the offer to him. First, I've met him and I have seen where he lives. He hasn't two nickels to rub together, and I knew he would be good at checking the script for historical inaccuracies. Frankly, one of the main reasons the production company wanted some Cooper folk on board was because they wanted their names in the credits as consultants, or named 'associate producers'. Frankly Parrot, it's a two-way thing related to marketing. They pay you a pretty fat sum for not a whole lot of actual work, and in exchange they get to put your name and the title of your book into the credits front and back. It's very common practice in Hollywood, as I'm sure you know. I didn't know anybody else who not only needed the damn money, but could probably do the job. It was a gift basically. He goes over maybe 20-30 pages of the script, he gets a lot in exchange. I even told him it wouldn't lower his Social Security payments because $15,000 was below the yearly threshold. However, I think Bruce was already 66 anyway and I don't think there is a limit on earnings after that age. Another big factor was that Bruce is local to Puget Sound. Besides myself, he's about the only Cooper person who does. Most of you live far and away from the PNW. I must have sent Bruce 20 emails. I don't waste my time with that kind of communication unless I'm serious. I don't give a damn whether people 'want to work with me'. It's business, not personal. You know the quote. I told Bruce once that if he had made me the same offer...I would have grabbed it with both hands and never looked back. And you are supposed to be the Big Cooper Expert Community. My opinion is that you all foolishly let your emotions get in the way of what was strictly business. Your choice. Turning down lucrative offers, or at least offers to provide input...only means you have no voice in the final version of the first DB Cooper movie ever produced. The Pursuit of D.B. Cooper doesn't count. Neither does Up The Creek. Side Note: I saw your post after I dropped by the Cooper Forum this morning. Better stay home for a couple of weeks. This crisis has got everybody rattled right now, including me. But I don't wish ill on anybody. Not you, not Bruce, not anyone. It's going to get a lot worse in the next few weeks. After that, you can expect a recession worse than the one in 2008. Gayla and I have decided maybe it's time to hang up the work thing for good, and sooner than we planned. I'm already making plans to move...probably before the end of the year. My mother in law lives in SoCal and has a big guest house out back. We will probably go there until the movie starts shooting, and then we're getting our own place nearby...or possibly in Arizona. But one thing is for sure, we're not staying here in the NW much longer.
  5. Really? What part(s) exactly? You DO understand that the production staff knows I hang out at Dropzone, right? I tell you more than I should...the straight scoop on things...and that's the only response you can muster? You were not there. You have not BEEN there. You are not the one working on this project. You have not worked with these people for over three years now. Let me drop a personal opinion regarding the state of affairs in Cooperland. And by 'Cooperland,' I don't mean the fans of the case right now. I mean the major players hanging out at Mountain News/Cooper and the DB Cooper Forum. For a bunch of people who consider themselves the be-all and end-all of everything Cooper, you aren't doing too well right now. You call my honest explanation bullshit. But I am not the one who created a situation of exclusivity, attempts-to-character-assassinate, and using phony identities to attack others. (Exclude 377, Tom Kaye, and a couple of others from this group.) Now you are pissed (I assume) because more sensible folks saw through all that and finally came to me instead. Well...don't blame that on me. I've said before that a negative atmosphere, an atmosphere of cheap attacks, of lies, of attempted exclusion, while others actively egg this behavior on...has diminishing returns. In other words, it works for a while...and then it doesn't work so well as time goes by. The production companies for the movie, while they were wearing boots and wading through negative posts at both the Cooper Forum and (later) at Mountain News...decided you could be more of a liability than an asset. This is not my fault. It is yours. You believed that by trying to denigrate everything we have done in the case...including our efforts to help Bryan Woodruff and the Ariel Store...that this would make you look good. It just made you look ugly as hell. It was only my conscience, and the fact that despite the negativity...I did realize SOME of you might serve a good role in this movie...that I was convinced to approach any of you at all. In the end, this is the way it turned out: It was all that negativity that was the catalyst for where this situation is now. It is what it is. No use whining about it or calling bullshit on it now. They're planning on a 2021 release for the 50th anniversary. It's too bad you and (some of) your friends spent years of your time on those forums just going on the attack. Coming after me, my friends, Gayla, even my cat occasionally. Silly beyond belief. Like angry children. Now you are surprised when you discover you may have gone a bit too far. So far, in fact, that more sensible folks were turned off by it. Don't be surprised. It usually turns out that way. And you can call me crazy, but I still have the power to not EX-clude, but IN-clude people in this project. But the problem is that the trust factor on that is total zero with me. I would have to be seriously convinced you were seriously serious. As Kurt Russell once said: 'Trust is a tough thing to come by these days...'
  6. It is NOT baloney. They did not come to me because of the Kenny story. They had no advance plan. It was research only at first. Their initial plan was to shoot a dramatic feature film on Cooper. They did not know any more about Cooper than your average person. So...they started doing research on the case. The first place they found was The D.B. Cooper Forum, and later, Bruce Smith's Mountain News. They lurked at the Cooper Forum for a couple of months, but didn't want to register because they wanted to remain anonymous. So they hung out there trying to find out what they could. (They were unhappy about some of that because the public cannot view links or most pictures there. You guys are always posting 'check this evidence or THAT evidence out' with a link the public can't view. It put them off a bit.) As they were doing that, my name kept coming up as well as KC's, and there was so much vitriol involved that they got curious as to what all the fuss was about, so they eventually Googled my name and found AB of Seattle and the WordPress Cooper site with its (back then) thirty or so articles. (Now it has around 50 plus posted.) They contacted me by email, and later by phone. We did some Skype discussions. I sent them to the KC video at YouTube. They downloaded the public version of the KC report from the AB website and studied it. They asked if I had anything else, I said yes...but that information was confidential. We finally made a deal. They asked to see everything on KC and Geestman that was available, and they promised to keep it under their hat...however...if they were convinced there was a story in it...they *might* make an offer to me. So I agreed to this and let them see everything, even the stuff we hadn't made public. Approximately November 2016, they offered me an option contract and I received my first option payment the following February. Some of the 'bypass' issues were not discussed at that time. This came later as we began to work more closely together on how to approach the movie...mid-2017 or so I guess. We made some jokes about the posts at the Cooper Forum, but they were still interested in making offers to some of the more high-profile 'experts' in the Cooper case, most of whom hang out at the Cooper Forum. The production staff told me they would not make those decisions on their own, because they didn't know who would be best for this job...or THAT job...for the movie. Besides, they said...You know the material best. You know the people. Maybe you should do the recruiting. I told them it was probably a waste of time for me to try, but that I would. At this time, I was also granted some control of script content. A main screenwriter would write the basic script, and I would be allowed to make changes or corrections. This was added to the contract I signed. They assigned the job of recruiting others for the project to me. I was authorized to offer between $15,000 and $30,000 to people I thought could assist on the script, or at least participate in the process. I was asked to concentrate on either recognized experts, or people who had actually written a book on the Cooper case. There was no specific upper limit to the budget, but I was willing to budget as high as $60,000 between three or four people, known names in Cooperland. At that rate, half of that amount would have come from my end of things, but I was willing to do that if it would improve the final product. I approached Bruce Smith, Shutter, Tom Kaye, and Marty Andrade. None of them were interested. Kaye just didn't have the time, and wasn't the best expert on the historical record. Andrade told me he had trouble previously with some media and didn't want to get involved. Shutter refused to even put up a (basically) 'Help Wanted' notice at the Cooper Forum website. (Couldn't do it myself, and Dropzone still had the Cooper Thread here closed) Shutter said he wouldn't get involved in ANYTHING done by Adventure Books of Seattle. I told him he wasn't being fair to his members, because he was speaking for all of them as a whole, and maybe they should make up their OWN minds. Bruce Smith barely answered my emails and made unreasonable demands. All of these things were forwarded to the production company staff. They were amazed by this reaction, and at that time they were still watching posts at the Cooper Forum. All they saw was hatred and nasty postings about the possible movie. At this point, everyone there was written off for good and they asked me to stop making offers to Bruce, or anyone at the Cooper Forum. I also said to them: I Told You So. Soon afterward, a young Hollywood star who wanted to move into producing (he already had his own production company) contacted the original production company. He was brought on board as an exec producer for the movie...after I met him in person at Dick's Drive In Burgers, the famous joint at the foot of Queen Anne Hill in Seattle. We spoke for a couple of hours. He is originally from Seattle, and was up here visiting for a few weeks with his family. This was in January 2019. In early 2020, a writer of a Cooper book (you know him, but I won't mention his name although many of you already know about this) was approached to fact-check the final script against the historical record. He was offered $30,000 and a credit in the movie, as well as listing his book in the credits. He accepted this job and is waiting to see the final script as well. At this time there are no plans to bring anybody else from Cooperland on board the film. I still have the right in my contract to attempt this, but I don't see the point of it. Everyone has made their desires known...and IN SPADES. Even I can take a hint. But all of the things that have happened over the years, the negativity, the nasty posts, the personal attacks by both named and anonymous people...this is why the mainstream folks in Cooperland were bypassed. Too much baggage, too many problems, too much hate...some of which is still going today over at Mountain News. Maybe even at Shutter's place. I haven't been there lately. But remember something...if you weren't bypassed...someone from one of those production companies, even a lower staff member...would have contacted the Cooper Forum by now. Or haven't you wondered why they didn't do that? Everyone involved in this movie is well-versed in the Cooper Forum and Mountain News. At least the senior staff. They've seen all the posts, and the articles. They wanted nothing to do with that community. It's a business. As I said, millions of dollars are involved, and when that is the case, there is no room for games, hatred, or bullshit. This is why you were all bypassed. If you were wanted, especially after all the rejections, they would have contacted at least ONE of you by now. I guess you could count my private approaches to some of you as 'being included,' but after the rejections the production companies wrote all of you off. They thought many of the posts were simply childish. A THIRD production company, a very big one, has expressed interest in coming on board the project as well. You have heard of them. They are waiting to see the final version of the script. That's where everything stands right now, although due to the current crisis, all we can do is continue to work on the script. I have already gone through the entire thing. Probably needs one more revision before it is ready.
  7. LOL...who do you think told me these things? Bruce Smith? Geoff Gray? Any of the anonymous haters at Smith's Mountain News? Hell, no. The movie producers we signed the contract with us did, Parrot. Email and Skype. During the research phase, they had no idea I existed. They were put off by three things from the general Cooperland community. The attacking posts, the lack of access to Shutter's site unless they registered first, and the general lack of cooperation in Cooperland. Try to remember that back when this was going on, there were a great deal of false, and generally nasty things being posted about Gayla P and myself, AB of Seattle, and the B and G Housecleaning biz...and most of that was at the Cooper Forum at that time. They wondered..."Why doesn't this guy Robert ever respond to them?" (They didn't know about our WordPress Cooper, or AB of Seattle, and only knew a little about the Blast book.) All of that negative attention you guys laid on me over there only drove them to find out who the hell I was in the first place! You guys actually DROVE them to me. Did you realize that? When we signed for the movie, they sent me a four-figure check, fairly generous. It comes each February. Because of this, I felt obligated to include Cooper Forum members in the creation process. I suggested to the production company we do that. THEY told me they didn't trust people over at either Bruce's site, or the Cooper Forum. They wanted to remain confidential until the movie was green-lighted. So they asked ME to approach YOU guys. So I did that. Everything was rejected that I offered. So if you feel left out, or you didn't get paid that 15-30 K for consulting on the script, don't blame me....I tried. Truth was they wanted nothing to do with any of you unless I approved or suggested you on my own. All THEY saw was a lot of attacking and bickering from people who probably couldn't hold to any confidentiality agreement anyway. The only people they considered 'fair and balanced' and who kept personal issues out of things, were Tom Kaye, 377, a couple of others. When you guys were full-blown on attack mode against me over at the Cooper Forum...you have no idea what that looks like to 'normal' people. They don't like it. They think its unprofessional. Here is a direct quote from them regarding Failure to Work Together: They told me this in different versions a couple of times over the years. They do NOT 'dig' online attacks or petty bullshit. Someone, somewhere, has to put up one hell of a lot of money to make a film. The last thing they need is people who can't work together. That's why they bypassed you. If they hadn't...you would have heard from them by now. But the truth is they wrote off all of you. Too many potential problems. And even when you WERE offered chances to participate, you all refused or made unreasonable demands like Bruce did. I gave it to you guys straight-up from the start. You either didn't believe me, ("How in the holy hell could they bypass US and go to Blevins? WTF is up with that?") or you let your emotions get in the way of business. This is NOT MY FAULT...but YOURS. Later, after that second production company and the kid from Seattle came on board as an executive producer for the film...those people saw the same negativity, and knew their decision to work only with sensible folks was the right decision. They DID want to work with the general Cooper community and offer some of you rather lucrative deals, but all of you refused. Bruce wanted me to tell the production companies that he would work with THEM, but not me. They laughed at that one. Why? Because the movie contract signs for the Blast book. Because Smith's job would be helping review the script for accuracy and I have rights on changes to that script. (He asked for the impossible, or the Impossibly Stupid, whichever way you want to look at it.) That would be like telling the producers of a Stephen King film you can work with them as long as you don't have to work with King because you don't like him. Pretty foolish to expect that. I am not anything close to Stephen King of course, but even I wouldn't be dumb enough to tell some production company THAT crap. And they have seen those nasty posts at Smith's site, too. The ones from the Peanut Gallery. This only reinforced their decision to yes...BYPASS anyone involved in the attack mode crap. They are risking a lot of money, it is a BUSINESS, and they don't have time for people who do that. EDIT: Over the last three years, I have figured out a few things about the film business. Unlike a TV documentary, which can be made by almost anyone with a reasonable budget, an internationally-released dramatic feature film is a whole different animal. For one thing, a lot more money is usually involved, and the people putting UP that money are far less likely to do that with people who refuse to seek the common goal. Millions of dollars, not just tens of thousands, are involved. The requirements are higher, and so is (generally speaking) the level of professionalism expected from everyone involved. The sad and tragic truth of all this is that the most qualified people in the Cooper case were bypassed for the first-ever dramatic feature film on the Cooper case...simply because they couldn't stop trying to shut each other out, and couldn't stop the bitching and the attacks. This is why they ended up coming to me...despite the best efforts of people like Bruce Smith, Georger, Shutter (to a degree) and others. What they actually accomplished was turn over nearly complete control over that first-ever Cooper movie to me...someone who actively invites people to work with them...and something everyone rejected. My sympathy meter is at zero because sometimes people really DO get what they deserve...or even what they think they WANT...in the end.
  8. Just one of the reasons why the producers on the first-ever dramatic feature film on the Cooper hijacking decided to bypass the 'experts' and come to us is shown in the video below. Of course, the attempted exclusion stuff, the hateful posts done by spammers at DZ (may they rest in peace) the acceptance of more hate at Cooper investigator Bruce Smith's website, the endless lies, and Georger's endless string of insults and hateful posts. People like them brought out the big guns. They got ignored and bypassed. You put people OFF doing that. Most of the crazy, senseless crap you see on the internet originates at either of those two sites, or from some of their lower-level members or commenters. Some of whom use phony identities to do so. But all that does is make both the media and the public shake their heads, and look further for the truth. That's how they ended up at my door. Welcome to the Reality Hotel, top floor, penthouse suite. Hate has diminishing returns. Sort of like beating your kids.
  9. Two nights away from the virus, but I bailed on a third due to snow. Long story, but I got back before the Skokomish River Road flooded too badly. Hope you guys are hunkering down. I plan another trip soon. Frankly I'm not sure I should even provide details. Couple of pictures I suppose. Had a lot of fun but had to bail late on Monday due to weather. A half-hour after I snapped the picture of the truck, the snow started falling heavy, so I packed up and headed back. Fun for the two or so days I was up there though.
  10. I have to head to the Safeway and then onto the road. They open at 5 AM. Will I miss a few of you while I'm off in the Olympics for a while? YES. For a few others...not really. Time for someone else to deal with Cooper for a bit. I've done my share, at least this year. Don't freak and tweak. It's a joke, folks. I gotta go. Try not to watch all the bad reports and have some fun occasionally. I know it's hard for everyone during this time. Use your imagination. Get motivated. Just DO it.
  11. Placed on the ignore list...lol. I have to admit it's funny he used Bruce's name this time. Seems like poetic justice somehow. This is the eighth persona he has exhibited, and when you mention someone who probably needs psych help, you should put him Numero Uno on your list. He's also stolen Darren Schafer's name and a few other known Cooperites such as Jerry Warner and Marla Cooper. Hitting the ignore function until DZ staff get around to banning him (again) is the best way to handle him. Closing out my stuff with Japanese public television, aka NHK, I received the following message today from one of the producers. The window to have your Cooper book cover featured on the show with a credit has come and gone. I made the offer. Couldn't force you to participate. This only means Skyjack, Blast, and Ha Ha Ha will be featured. When she refers to 'business is still good,' she means we have not stopped the cleaning business (yet) due to the Covid-19 outbreak. However, I have determined we *could* shut it down for three months and it would not put an undue financial burden on us. Between the money that comes in each month from AB of Seattle wholesale receipts, and a couple of other things, we could do it. Plus I already have enough food and other supplies to last at least ten weeks stacked up in two refrigerators, the pantry, and in the garage. As far as Covid-19, and the irresponsible handling of the situation from the start, I say this ends all argument on who will undoubtedly go down in US history as the worst President this country ever had. And my vote used to go to Andrew Johnson, the guy who took over after Abe Lincoln was killed. Little did I know... This is the typical nature of emails I get from 'real people' outside of Cooperland. By 'photograph' the book, she means snapping both covers of Ha Ha Ha (by DB Cooper) and forwarding them to her for the show. I already did Blast for her a few days ago. My advice is to take a look at your consciences once in a while. And...to remember that you NEED someone like me around, if for nothing else to give it to you straight when everyone around you is just telling you how cool YOU are and THEY are. This is the purpose of the videos, the 50+ articles at WordPress, and the other things. I never was much for doing mutual back-slapping in order to be part of some clique. Not my style. I call it like I see it. Always have. Always will. Off to the Olympics in the morning. Will return late next week. Sincerely, Robert
  12. I have most of the episodes on a flash drive. It's a waste of time to offer someone their own thread to post their podcast links...and the links do not work. Every time I post up a link at Quora Cooper...it goes out automatically by email to more than 1,700 users. And that doesn't count the Quora members who just drop by the site. The 'biggest site on Cooper' is a waste of time if you are trying promote anything like an event, a podcast, or the like. I never said the podcast was bad, or of poor quality. I was just wondering why a guy who has interviewed practically everyone on the Cooper list has no opinions of his own. However, I have had differences with Darren, and as a result I asked him not once, but TWICE to remove my episode from the show. He has refused to do this, so here it is again: I request he remove it from the list of episodes.
  13. This is known as a 'bump'. It's done because it's important, and so you don't miss it by mistake.
  14. It's a decent show, and I have most of the episodes. But I was just wondering whether you post here solely to advertise your latest episode, or if you have actual opinions on anything Cooper-related. All I ever see is the ads. It is better to advertise here, rather than the DB Cooper Forum, though. All the public sees over there when you post your links (instead of the actual link to the show) is THIS: Sign out over there sometime and look at one of your posts. You will see what I mean.
  15. FYI: I have seen the recent Johnny-Come-Lately posts over at the DB Cooper Forum regarding Bryan Woodruff. NOW they feel sorry for him since he is very sick...NOW they shower him with compliments. Excuse me, Bruce Smith and the rest of you...what a bunch of phonies! When Adventure Books of Seattle was busy dropping more than $2,000 and recruiting human help and support from the Cooper Forum in our effort to restore the Ariel Store he owns, you guys couldn't be bothered. Why? Because AB of Seattle was involved. You said this, by the way. Meanwhile...back at the ranch...the AB staff and I are making trips to Ariel three times at 128 miles each way to shoot the promo photos...deliver massive amounts of gear...auction items...food for the event...and we even got his store on national TV and helped him raise a few thousand bucks. While all of you picked on our efforts, or in the case of Bruce, put up BS on the internet about the whole project...which cause Bryan Woodruff to decide Bruce could not attend. So...he lies to Meyer Louie to get a ride to the event anyway...and then when Bryan STILL tells him he can't come on the property...tells MORE lies to make himself look good and put the blame for his actions on others! Why don't all of you put your friggin' money where your mouths are! If you feel so sorry for Bryan, why don't you jump on board a SECOND fundraiser for him, instead of doing mealy-mouthed, I-love-Bryan-SO-much postings that don't mean shit. You guys as a group are the biggest bunch of phonies in Cooperland, without a doubt. Bruce says he doesn't support, or allow hatred on his Mountain News. Really, Bruce? Then what is THIS? And all the sick crap that follows it. Or don't you read your own WordPress? Phonies. All the way. All of you, with a few exceptions like Tom Kaye and 377 definitely fall into that category. You want to help Bryan? You REALLY care about him? Then help AB of Seattle do something about it. We are considering approaching Bryan for what might be the final party ever held at the Ariel Store, and we already know that no one in the Northwest who identifies with either Bryan, the store, or the Cooper case...has the resources to pull this off. So put your money where your mouths are, which doesn't actually MEAN 'money' by the way...but more in the way of active online support...or shut your mouths. A video is nothing. A poem is nothing. Action is what counts, my friends. If you don't want AB to assist on this project for your selfish reasons...then light a fire under Eric Ulis and let him handle it. Either /or. There IS no one else capable of pulling something like this off for Bryan. Eric might be able to handle it, but he had better have deep pockets. AB can CERTAINLY handle it. I know this because we did it before and no matter what baloney you may have heard, it was a big success. Bryan walked away with a few thousand dollars and a lot more people attended than that last convention in Vancouver. You can always count on the locals around Ariel to show up. We suggest going with the format that worked last time. Big auction with donated items. We set up computers and link them to a donation site so people can help simply by whipping out their debit or credit cards. Free food. Big party. Speakers on stage. Convince TV and local media it is worth it to cover the event. That's what worked last time. You guys have a lot of nerve. I will give you that much. I'm trying to shame you into action, because in my opinion, you deserve it. Despite some of the negatives about that event, the backbiting, the nasty posts, the poison pen emails, we still pulled it off with a great deal of success. Money talks. Getting the media talks. Baloney WALKS. If we had everyone's support...if you could set aside your childish and emotional responses to positive efforts...this NEXT event for Bryan would be the biggest one yet. Maybe the FINAL one. You do understand that the Ariel Store as everyone has known it for decades will probably disappear if Bryan passes on. Maybe if he had the money to make some arrangements...this would not happen. Put some effort (and your support) where your mouths are. Because I worked with Bryan very closely for months, I also understand his situation with the store a lot better than YOU do. For example, it is extremely doubtful that the store will ever be re-opened as a tavern and a store with a license. The costs to do this would run six figures or close. This actually exceeds the value of the property. The work to bring it up to state and county codes just costs too damn much. However...Bryan's other idea...the one where he wants to set it up as a DB Cooper museum makes much more sense and the costs of doing THAT are way cheaper. Someone could still live in the back, and run the museum out front. No food or liquor license required, and very often small museums ARE run from someone's personal residence. This would only require the types of upgrades you would do to improve your own home. This museum could also hold both indoor and outdoor events. Bryan is set up pretty well already for both, especially the outdoor stuff because he cleared out a huge, flat area just south of the store and opened up the covered stage that is also on that part of the property. To convert it to a private residence/museum would take volunteer work, but not a whole lot of money. It is, in my opinion, the most sensible option, and the best legacy for the story in its present state. Seen recently at Geoff Gray's website:
  16. A piece of an orange and white parachute was discovered at one time and dismissed for being wrong color. A pilot chute from a flare in the Columbia River. The Amboy chute. Those are the only ones I know. Looking in my email this evening, (Gayla and I are still working outside the home) I see no one has taken me up on my offer. This is too bad. If you have a Cooper book out there, this show is where you want to be. Not a slouch production, not a sleazy production by any means. Geoff Gray came on board pretty quickly, did an interview. So did John Detlor, the former FBI agent...who says he doesn't believe that McCoy was the guy, by the way. You have until tomorrow afternoon to get hold of me. That's it. I will give you my email one last time: adventurebooksofseattle AT Gmail dot com. No skin off my nose if you miss this opportunity. I will also consider submitting your contact info (privately) to the production staff, in case you do NOT have a book out there, but wish to be interviewed for the show. I'm not doing it at Dropzone, folks. All of us know there are people...who if they knew the contact info on the production staff, would immediately start sending poison pen trash to them. So I am not GOING THERE. Been there, done that. Tomorrow (Friday) at 9PM Pacific, I'm shutting down the computers and start loading my truck for the Olympics trip.
  17. COOPER UPDATE: NHK, aka Japanese Public Television contacted me again today. Besides wanting a couple of more KC-related pictures, they want to do Cooper book covers. Well, okay. I figured it was okay to send them Ha Ha Ha, front and back cover in hi-res. Warned them that technically it was under copyright, but no one knows who wrote it. They take responsibility if they decide to use it, although 42 years after its secretive publication I doubt anyone will step forward to object. But that decision is theirs. I am NOT being paid for that image. It ain't mine. Anyway...they want me to submit two more Cooper-related book covers. They have to be adjusted to a certain resolution and size, etc. So...if any Cooper book author is interested in having their book featured on a public TV program in Japan, you should contact me. Payment for your image would be fifty bucks, and this payment will not go through me, but sent directly to you. LATE EDIT: This program will be available in the USA, in English I am told. Dubbed? Probably, except for the part where US folks appear, such as Geoff Gray. Don't do this by POSTING AT DROPZONE or you will be ignored. This is private stuff. Contact me at adventurebooksofseattle AT gmail dot com ONLY! I will set you up with them. They will pay you fifty bucks to boot. They only need two more front covers for the show. They did Geoff Gray's already, in fact they did an on-camera interview with him already. This is the way it will work. If you are interested, email me with the highest-resolution picture of your book cover that you have. I will make adjustments to it, convert it to hi-res JPEG and in higher-res TIFF format. I will send them back to you that way and add the name and the email of the people who write the checks. (I already received my initial payment, and the check was good.) You send them the images and tell them fifty bucks for the one-time license. They will pay you. You will have to provide your address and a name for the check. That's all there is to it. I figure if no one emails, or just posts their offer to DZ instead of what I asked...then there is no interest. If you are wondering what the show is about, it isn't about solving the Cooper case. It's a public TV show about how the Cooper case has gone into American culture, or affected that culture. Hard to explain. Highbrow stuff I guess. Not exactly Planet Earth, but certainly NOT DB Cooper Case Closed. One more thing: YOU SHOULD HURRY. I am leaving town Saturday morning and they want those images BEFORE I am due to return. Basically, you have until Friday evening to contact me. Not my fault, I only got the message from Yumi about these book cover additions to the show just today. So email quick or forever hold your peace.
  18. UPDATE: I have been informed by Gayla that the week we have the WHOLE week off work starts THIS Saturday, not next week or the week after. "Didn't I tell you that?" she said. "I was wondering why you weren't already prepping the gear." LOL. So I spent most of today going through the gear and packing the totes, etc. Washing out the water containers and filling them...charging the deep cycle batteries that weigh 50 pounds each...spare parts to truck and tools...make sure BOTH spare tires work...you name it I probably did it today. So I will be leaving soon for a few days. No worries. Where I go there IS no virus...because there ARE no people around for miles. One way in, same way out...and you can see anyone coming up the valley from a couple of miles away. Pictures below. Area is snow-free, but just barely, according to the Forest Service. Another 500 feet up and there is still snow. But I'm not going out there. The main access road, you can go to the far right of this picture to a dropoff, and watch that road from above in case anyone approaches. Even from there, they are still twenty minutes away down in the valley. It's a fairly secure location. Last time, I pointed the truck in the direction back out..the view in this picture...and if anyone came along I would just switch on all the lights. Plus the handheld spotlight with the Cree chip. No worries at all. Daylight shot below. You should see them at night. The Hella spots must have the covers on them until you get off road. Then you can remove the covers and use them. *Everything you just read and saw above is true. EXCEPT for the part where I said I was going back to Trap Pass in the Olympics. Yes, I am going to the Olympics. But because of some of the dolts who read this thread, the ones who don't actually post here but keep an eye on those posts...I would be crazy to say publicly WHERE exactly I am going in the Olympics.* Not a chance in hell.
  19. Not really a 'number of parachute finds'. Only a small pilot chute in the Columbia that turned out later to be one from a flare. Then a smaller piece of parachute that didn't match...it was orange and white I believe. The only 'real' parachute found was the one on private property between Bald and Green Mountains in the Amboy, WA area. This chute, in my own opinion ONLY, could be Cooper's. No harness and container were found with it, which means someone disconnected them and took them elsewhere. Yes...it COULD have been brought to that spot after being used to cover firewood, or for camping, or whatever. But here's the problem with all that. The FBI examined the chute, but refused to give media an exact reason why they dismissed it. 'By a preponderance of the evidence...' they said. This means 'exactly nothing'. And why would someone go to the trouble to bury that canopy anyway? You've seen the pictures. That would be some work, maybe take you an hour at least. And then there is the bull-loney assessment by Earl Cossey, who told everyone who asked, including the FBI agents who dumped the chute in his driveway..."It can't be Cooper's because it's made of silk and the ones I gave Cooper were made of ripstop nylon..." But from the pictures provided, several non-whuffos, including Mark (aka '377') have said no way to the silk claim. Why would Cossey dump BS like that on everybody? You can determine silk from nylon just by putting a Bic lighter to the material. Silk would catch fire, almost like paper, since it is a biodegradable substance. Nylon will catch fire too, but it also drips and melts black beads or strings when it does. What could be the motivation for the FBI to put the shortstop on the whole thing and dismiss it, and not even bother to counter what they must have realized was a bogus claim by Cossey? Well...for one thing if they admitted it could be Cooper's, they would also have to admit he got away with the crime because it takes a human being to bury a chute. For the 28 years prior to the discovery of the Amboy parachute, the FBI had been saying they figured Cooper was dead, and the Tina Bar money discovery proved that... However...to make things even MORE complicated...we now know that the FBI knew with certainty that Cooper did NOT land near Tina Bar, much of this truth being revealed by Flyjack and his FBI document about the radar operator out of Portland ATC. Perhaps the discovery of the money only spurred the FBI on, and they decided to spread around the story Cooper was dead to lull him into a false sense of security. Remember...the finding of the money was only about eight years after the crime. But they kept looking. Then you have Seattle FBI agent Larry Carr, who if he really believed Cooper was dead, would not have pursued the case so heavily and tried to get the public involved. Sounds to me like the FBI was occasionally bull-loneying the public in hopes that Cooper would relax a bit and perhaps they WOULD catch him after all. To top it all off...there are probably a few things about the case in general that are being withheld by the FBI...to eliminate false confessors.
  20. Latest info I have on the actual payments to people...well, hard to say until they actually release the bill, but I understand it goes like this: (Basically correct, but could be changed in minor ways prior to signing of bill.) But it's CLOSE: If you filed a tax return last year with at least $3,000 in qualifying income, you will get $1,500 and this could go on each month for five months. Couple filing jointly get twice that amount. You get $500 for each kid. I do NOT know if the kiddie payment is every month, or just a one-time deal. (Max payments would be $7,500 per person, of course) Almost everyone who filed income of $95,000 or more last year will NOT be eligible, and a sliding scale payment for below that until you reach a certain income level. Then you get full amount. (It's a guess, but they probably pegged it somehow to the Federal description of low-income, or maybe poverty level description.) Depends on how many kids you have, but that runs about 28-35 thousand a year. If you fall into that range, you will certainly get the max. But...they may raise that level because of the exceptional circumstances involved. Just keep watching the news tomorrow and Thursday. Social Security and SSI recipients receive a $200 increase in monthly payments, across the board. This will go on until at least the end of 2021. (end of next year) There is still some last-minute debate whether SS and SSI recipients will actually get a stimulus payment. No one is saying for sure. My 'best guess' is that if they do...it will be no more than $600. The reason is because working singles and families...if they have no job right now...many are getting nothing coming in. SS and SSI recipients still do, and every month. Also, $200 increase in your SS or SSI over an 18-month period adds up to $3,600 total. Or close. THE GOOD NEWS: If the Dems take over this November, the chances they will make that increase permanent are very good. It is really unlikely they would just take it away in 18 months. If you did NOT file a tax return last year for one reason or another...you should not wait. You should file one THIS YEAR...and like YESTERDAY...otherwise the Feds might not be able to qualify you, FIND you, and PAY you. Especially if you moved since your last tax return. This is the problem with trying to help the homeless on a Federal level. You can't send checks to people who live under a bridge. Not easily, anyway. It ain't fair, but that's the way it goes. The good part for the really poor and homeless: Much of the bill distributes funds to the states on an individual state basis, to let THEM handle the homeless problem. That's all I got for now. Everyone should know exactly what's happening soon. My guess is Wednesday, and no later than Thursday. Stay safe and good luck. SIDE NOTE: Did you know that when the first SARS hit, there were only 8,000 people in total worldwide who actually got it? We've gone past that already by a factor of 25, and its getting worse. The latest CDC info is really disturbing. Covid-19 CAN live in the air for a few hours. It can also live on many surfaces for a lot longer than your normal 'flu'. But the REALLY bad part is that you can pass it on to others without showing symptoms or feeling the least bit sick. This combination of factors is unique...and generally sucks. If you want a 'visual' on why it spreads so fast, it is kind of like this: Imagine you draw a tiny little circle in chalk in the middle of an infinite parking lot. You wave a wand, and the circle begins to get bigger. It just grows at the same rate, expanding steadily. Not faster, not slower, just steadily. As the circle grows, the area it covers gets bigger all the time as the circle expands. In other words, it expands exponentially and every second it does, the FASTER it actually covers that infinite area. This is what is happening with Covid-19. The circle represents the number of people being infected with the virus. The more it grows outward...the more area (victims affected) it covers each second.
  21. Some oversight has now been put into place on the Corona bill. There will be restrictions. There will be public record. This is a good thing, and I don't blame Dems for holding out for this. Now we knew all along neither side was going to get everything they wanted. But the final package is a good compromise. The Dems did NOT get expanded Food Stamp benefits as they wanted. They DID get more unemployment insurance coverage. The GOP did not get to do blank checks to corporations without some oversight. They DID get the Dems to back down on some of the Green New Deal proposals they wanted in the bill. Dems also had to drop the Feds-will-pay-for-vote-by-mail this year they wanted. Not sure on the rest, but both sides seem happy, and an agreement may be reached by tomorrow. An excerpt from a late-breaking article on CNN: Full article, which has been updated, is HERE. Pelosi looks worn out. What the hell....probably the first time in a while our lawmakers actually had to work extended hours LOL. Welcome to the real world. Dem or GOP.
  22. With Flyjack's showing of the FBI document absolutely certifying that Portland ATC knew EXACTLY where 305 was after it passed the Merwin Dam area....you still see Robert99 and Eric Ulis over at the Cooper Forum trying to explain all that away. But the evidence is absolutely overwhelming that Paul Soderlind from NWA and his team, the ATC, and everyone else involved in trying to track the flight that night knew where that plane was the whole time. Those guys at the Cooper Forum, and the Peanut Gallery over at Mountain News read every post on this thread. Which means they saw that document as well. Yet...they stubbornly continue to try to magically move everything WEST. It's a waste of time. Hell, even I had sense enough to ditch my allegation that Captain Scott went back to talk to Cooper when I found out I was dead wrong on that. And by the way.... I had previously Tweeted the VP of programming at History Channel some time ago. I didn't say anything bad about EU. But I told him he should just 'watch out' working with the guy, because my opinion was that EU was occasionally less than honest. I linked him to a good example. More recently, I Tweeted him again and sent him to your post Flyjack. The one with the document. I pointed out this proved EU's theory on the flight path was wrong. I can't tell you if he read the tweets, but it's possible. History Channel was already made a fool of once in the Cooper case...with that DB Cooper Case Closed fiasco. I figured they deserved a warning before dipping their feet into the same cow dung twice. (*laughs*)
  23. Yeah, that's what I use. The clear vinyl gloves. Pretty sturdy, don't rip easy when you work on your truck, easy to get on and off. I was worried enough about this virus last week. But I was cooling off because some doctors were saying they didn't think it could live long outside a human host. Not like the flu, they said. Now we find out that isn't true at all, and to a degree it is airborne as well. I've been looking at some cheap property, nice mountain views and all.
  24. Brother, you got that right. In case anyone reading this hasn't the time to look at the two articles I linked in that last post, here it is in a nutshell: Covid-19 CAN survive in the air for several hours. If someone sneezes in a room, you can walk in an hour later and catch it. Covid-19 CAN survive on surfaces, and not just 24 hours, either. For days. The CDC did tests on that Princess cruise ship. They detected the virus in the cabins of people on board that had the virus. They found live virus in those cabins up to 17 days after they were vacated. SARS had 8,000 people worldwide who actually caught that virus. We've surpassed that by a factor of 25, at least. Unlike SARS, or your typical flu, you can pass on Covid-19 while showing absolutely NO symptoms. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^These are the reasons Covid-19 spreads SO fast. EDIT: I have a hint for you on gloves. Don't buy the medical ones, the white or the blue ones that are in short supply anyway. Get the clear plastic ones that people wear when they serve you food. They are much easier to get on and off, and you can find them easier. (Washington State Food Handler's Card holder here...from when I had to throw a public banquet or two.) Fortunately, I have a few hundred pairs in boxes left over. Easy on, easy off, and they work.