michaelmullins

Nope, Federal law says 18 for that as well. Nope, no Federal Minimum age for an unlicensed seller to sell or give a long gun to another person. That is, any person that is not a licensed gun dealer can sell, or give, any other person, regardless of age, a long gun (such as an AK-47 in semi-automatic). In TN, there is no minimum age for possession of a long gun.

Not in this lifetime.

When we were doing the Boogie 'til-ya-puke at West Tennessee Skydiving where you could jump with one rig, 14,500', all day Saturday and Sunday, for $99, the average jumper was making 14 jumps for the weekend. Some made as many as 30 jumps. One weekend we offered "Rock-Aroung-The-Clock" where you could jump from 8 AM Saturday to sunset Sunday, 36 hours of jumping for $99. Conditions were ideal with a full moon and no wind. After about 3AM on Sunday no one would jump anymore. Started back up 8 Sunday. Mike Mullins West Tennessee Skydiving

West Tennessee Skdiving http://www.SkydiveKingAir.com

Not saying you did not jump them, just saying it was not legal. Mike Well...the air van and DC3 had 1/2 a dozen feds crawling all over the paperwork, so I would imagine it was legal. Both the jumpers & pilots had to sign that we were not being financially compensated... The Feds can approve anything they wish. As the AirVan was in a non-standard category waiting to become a Certified aircraft and the DC-3 was in a non-standard category due to the Turbine conversion and was waiting to be re-certified, I can see where a Fed may approve a one time jump or series of jump for the purpose of allowing it to demonstrate that it would be capable of parachute jumping when the standard certificate is issued/re-issued. Basically, they made a provision in the operating limitations to allow it. I doubt that they would ever approve an aircraft that is not on the way to certification. As I posted elsewhere in this thread: § 91.319 Aircraft having experimental certificates: Operating limitations. (a) No person may operate an aircraft that has an experimental certificate— (1) For other than the purpose for which the certificate was issued; Each Experimental Aircraft has a certificate that lists the operating limitations. If the certificate does not list "intentional parachute jumping" then you cannot do it. Plus, every certificate I have seen specifically prohibits intentional parachute jumping. There may be some that don't, I just have not seen them. At any rate, it must be operated for the purpose for which the certificate was issued. Mike Mullins

Not saying you did not jump them, just saying it was not legal. Mike

Experimental aircraft can't be used for hire...read into that what you will. In the US, you cannot jump out of an Experimental aircraft, period. Mike Mullins Can you cite the FAR on that? § 91.319 Aircraft having experimental certificates: Operating limitations. (a) No person may operate an aircraft that has an experimental certificate— (1) For other than the purpose for which the certificate was issued; Each Experimental Aircraft has a certificate that lists the operating limitations. If the certificate does not list "intentional parachute jumping" then you cannot do it. Plus, every certificate I have seen specifically prohibits intentional parachute jumping. There may be some that don't, I just have not seen them. At any rate, it must be operated for the purpose for which the certificate was issued. Mike Mullins

Experimental aircraft can't be used for hire...read into that what you will. In the US, you cannot jump out of an Experimental aircraft, period. Mike Mullins Even if it's on fire? Correct, you must go down with the aircraft.

Experimental aircraft can't be used for hire...read into that what you will. In the US, you cannot jump out of an Experimental aircraft, period. Mike Mullins Not even a An-2? How about an AirVan? Glider?? Pitts? Balloon? I've jumped from all those in the US and they were definitely placarded experimental. Unless you sacrificed the Pitts when you jumped it, it was a 2 place Pitts, either an S2A, S2B, or S2C, all certified aircraft. I do not know of any Experimental 2-place gliders, there may be some. Likewise for ballons, most all are certified aircraft. The AirVan is a certified aircraft. The AN-2 was used at the Freefall Convention for a short time one year, it left abruptly when the FAA began to question it. Some AN-2, and other aircraft, are in the "Restricted" category. Aircraft in this category are restricted to the limitations the FAA places on it at the time. The restriction could include intentional parachute jumping. The AirVan is a certified aircraft. An interesting fact is the last C130 used at the convention was in the Restricted category, the restriction did not specify skydiving. However, the restriction did allow aerial photography and each jumper signed a statement that they were using the aircraft for "aerial photography" and each jumper, technically, was carrying a camera. I do not doubt that many jumps are made from Experimental aircraft and just because it happens does not make it legal. I personally do not care how many jumps are made from Experimental Aircraft, I am just saying what the rules are. Mike Mullins

Experimental aircraft can't be used for hire...read into that what you will. In the US, you cannot jump out of an Experimental aircraft, period. Mike Mullins

October 26,27,28 2012 http://www.skydivekingair.com/halloween

For a Cessna that surely would be $25.00 per jump ticket effectively driving 182's out of the skydiving business. It only applies to turbine powered aircraft.

Come to FL in the winter...22K is normally ~$60 once a month IIRC. ETA: B required. The price for the 23,000' jump from halojumper.com is $150, not $250. The difference in price from 23,000' jump and the 22,000' jump described above is that halo jumper.com provides hours of training and fitting of a full bailout system that you will use on the jump. The 22,000 jump described above is WITHOUT a bailout oxygen system, you use a onboard only mask in the aircraft and jump without a mask. This is perfectly safe, I am just pointing out the difference in price is that you are trained and using a complete bailout system. Halojumper.com does the 23,000' jumps at Gold Coast Skydiving as they do not have an aircraft that will effectively reach 30,000'. The 28 to 30K jumps are done at West Tennessee Skydiving out of their Super King Air. Price is $375. Mike Mullins

Halojumper.com is the major, and probably only, provider of 28,000' to 30,000' jumps. They are done using the aircraft and facilities of West Tennessee Skydiving, near Memphis, TN. To make reservations, go to halo jumper.com. To look at the DZ, go to http://www.SkydiveKingAir.com Mike Mullins

This went much better than the freefall scuba that was tried earlier, with tragic results.

There are many that have made their first jump from a helicopter.

23,000, actually.

Well, that's where you're wrong. Yes, 100% of the reason behind the rule is to protect the USPA Member drop zones and tandem rig manufacturers from litigation. I will challenge you, however, that drop zones that do not follow the USPA Member rules are as safe as those that do. Most of the time they're not USPA Member drop zones because they want to skirt certain rules for a business advantage. If a DZ's attitude is to attempt to skirt industry-wide standard practices, then it logically follows they attempt to skirt other rules as well. It's indicative of how a business is run. And in the case of certain drop zones, this isn't opinion; it's historic fact. It is perfectly legal for a 16 year old to do a Tandem Jump (or AFF or SL) at a USPA Group Member DZ. Has been USPA legal for 16 year olds to jump for at least 55 years. Of course, any DZ may set the age limit above 16 as they see fit. Mike Mullins

West Tennessee Skydiving will do it and follow all USPA & FAA Rules and Regulations. http://www.SkydiveKingAir.com

You need a helicopter.

Sorry, but I do not wish to stir the pot with specifics. You will need to find out that info for yourself, no disrespect intended. Mike

Simply not true. There is no BSR preventing a 16 year old from doing a Tandem. Further, not all Tandem Manufacturers have an age requirement for those using their gear. Mike Mullins This is on the web page, is it wrong? http://www.uspa.org/SIM/Read/Section2/tabid/164/Default.aspx#21d This lists all three US Manufacturers as having the age of majority (18 years old or higher in some states) as the minimum age for tandems, has this changed? http://www.strongparachutes.com/docs/Newsletter/TN38.pdf Matt This is the BSR concerning age: 1. Skydivers are to be at least either: a. 18 years of age [FB] b. 16 years of age with notarized parental or guardian consent [FB] Here is the BSR about the manufacturers: "All student tandem skydives must be conducted in accordance with the specific manufacturer’s age requirements for the tandem system used for that jump." So, it is perfectly USPA legal for a 16 year old to make a tandem jump (with parental consent) if the manufacturer does not prohibit it. There are more manufacturers than the 3 that you specify in your post, their tandem rigs are fully TSO'ed and legal to jump, and they have no age restrictions. Mike Mullins Ah yes, Non-US made rigs, I did forget that part. So does the T-I need to follow the BSR (regardless of Rig and DZ) if a USPA "I"? Matt I cannot make sense out of your last question. If the Tandem Instructor is a USPA Tandem Instructor he must follow the two BSR's that I referred to above. So, he may take a 16 year old (with parental consent) on a rig that the manufacturer has no age restriction. It makes no difference at which DZ, all USPA Members have pledged to follow the BSR's on each jump, regardless of where the jump is made, i.e., it make no difference if it is a Group Member DZ, a non-Group Member DZ, or farmer Brown's cow pasture. There are both US made rigs and non-US made rigs that have no age restriction. Mike Mullins

Simply not true. There is no BSR preventing a 16 year old from doing a Tandem. Further, not all Tandem Manufacturers have an age requirement for those using their gear. Mike Mullins This is on the web page, is it wrong? http://www.uspa.org/SIM/Read/Section2/tabid/164/Default.aspx#21d This lists all three US Manufacturers as having the age of majority (18 years old or higher in some states) as the minimum age for tandems, has this changed? http://www.strongparachutes.com/docs/Newsletter/TN38.pdf Matt This is the BSR concerning age: 1. Skydivers are to be at least either: a. 18 years of age [FB] b. 16 years of age with notarized parental or guardian consent [FB] Here is the BSR about the manufacturers: "All student tandem skydives must be conducted in accordance with the specific manufacturer’s age requirements for the tandem system used for that jump." So, it is perfectly USPA legal for a 16 year old to make a tandem jump (with parental consent) if the manufacturer does not prohibit it. There are more manufacturers than the 3 that you specify in your post, their tandem rigs are fully TSO'ed and legal to jump, and they have no age restrictions. Mike Mullins

Simply not true. There is no BSR preventing a 16 year old from doing a Tandem. Further, not all Tandem Manufacturers have an age requirement for those using their gear. Mike Mullins

West Tennessee Skydiving, near Memphis, TN, will take you Tandem or AFF at age 16 and do it in full compliance with all USPA rules and regulations. See: http://www.SkydiveKingAir.com