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It really wasn't that hard to find Tucker calling her out for not having any evidence. An no, I wasn't fully convinced that Fox was in the clear, which is why I was asking questions. Who knew that Lou Dobbs was even a thing anymore? Then it's like oh, well he got fired, wonder what that's about? But the stuff I saw at that point was just as vague as everything else. Even Weber posted a link that listed just one question that he asked regarding the ability of these voting systems to be hacked. But ya, I should've just looked at the original complaints. One that I saw was just an incomplete redacted mess that was difficult to parse, but I found another one that gives everything that I was looking/asking for. It gives a list of exhibits, dates, screenshots, tweets, and complete transcripts in full context. And yes, Carlson is named at least 67 times and listed in several of the exhibits: "Fox repeatedly published defamatory falsehoods about Dominion, including by broadcasting and rebroadcasting the defamatory falsehoods of its on-air personalities Maria Bartiromo, Tucker Carlson, Lou Dobbs, Sean Hannity, Jeanine Pirro, and their chosen guests. . ." Full Complaint: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20527880-dominion-v-fox-news-complaint Fox News Reply: https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Fox-Reply-Dominion.pdf Thanks for nothing guys

Doesn't it raise questions in your mind why they won't post the full interviews, which really aren't that long? I mean this is a lawyer for the sitting President of the United States at that time who filed actual lawsuits for voter fraud and somehow it's inappropriate to bring her on national TV and question what evidence she has to support her claims and how she's going to prove it before the election results are certified? I mean whether she was telling the truth or not, it's national news no matter how you slice and dice it, and the people needed to hear it. I'm glad they brought her on, so now we have a record of how Powel was lying through her teeth, unless of course she was somehow persuaded not to go through with it and expose the greatest fraud in American history? I mean Trump and his lawyers need to be held accountable for this, not Fox News. And I just checked, apparently she's not being disbarred. How can that be? It's just not adding up.

Ok, I didn't initially see that post and was replying to 1124. So let's address that now: Sure. Here's three: Bartiromo: "we talked about the Dominion software. I know that there were voting irregularities." There were irregularities. We know that there were glitches in Georgia that Bartiromo mentioned - that's not disputed. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/04/georgia-election-machine-glitch-434065 So acknowledge that, process it, and then I'll move on to the next one. (Pirro) And In case you missed it, I already posted text of her interview with Powell upthread. I'll post it again: Where did Bartiromo lie?

Really dude, what are you talking about? Do you have any coherent response to the questions I'm asking? Legitimate questions and concerns from the left and the right about dominion and the integrity of voting systems are different than Powell's accusations.

You're lying there.

Funny, because I heard it coming from the left.

funny, I figured that might be the one show we had in common.

Powell was at least right about one thing tho - that Warren and Klobuchar had concerns about the software as well: "Warren, Klobuchar, Wyden, and Pocan Investigate Vulnerabilities and Shortcomings of Election Technology Industry with Ties to Private Equity Three private equity-owned election technology vendors serve 90% of eligible voters but fail to sufficiently innovate, improve, and protect deteriorating voting systems; Election security experts have noted for years that our nation's voting systems and election infrastructure are under serious threat" The three vendors -- Election Systems & Software, Dominion Voting Systems, and Hart InterCivic -- collectively distribute voting machines and software that facilitate voting for over 90% of all eligible voters in the United States. Private equity firms reportedly own or control each of these vendors, which "have long skimped on security in favor of convenience," leaving voting systems across the country "prone to security problems." https://www.warren.senate.gov/oversight/letters/warren-klobuchar-wyden-and-pocan-investigate-vulnerabilities-and-shortcomings-of-election-technology-industry-with-ties-to-private-equity

So far the proof is against Powell. Hard to see how they're going to get 1.6 Billion from her, and how they're going to justify that amount. Which is why they're probably trying to put this on fox for entertaining her accusations.

So you have nothing and won't even try. Exactly what I thought.

I've been trying, but don't see any specific example. What do you have to say about the examples that I've given you thus far?

The courts have not yet spoken, but the smart money is on Dominion winning their case against the Murdoch Empire. If everything you've seen says differently you should probably be looking in some new places. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/feb/20/fox-news-dominion-voting-systems-defamation-case-analysis “I have never seen a defamation case with such overwhelming proof that the defendant admitted in writing that it was making up fake information in order to increase its viewership and its revenues,” Tribe told the Guardian. “Fox and its producers and performers were lying as part of their business model.” Then again, it should be very easy to show me at least one example where they actually lied about it. Maybe Lou Dobbs said something? Not sure. I just know that Fox fired him and canceled his show. Powell is the one that needs to go down for this - and last I checked she was being disbarred. Not sure on how that's going tho.

Fine, but in mentioning the U.S, I think there should've been more emphasis on the British Colonist. And then with the western expansion throughout the 1800's, it was the descendants of those British Colonists along with other Western Europeans in their onslaught against the indigenous, as you claimed - along with slavery. Yet Eastern Europeans who were fleeing imperialistic persecution themselves and didn't get here until like the 1920s are often lumped in with those bloody blokes and are somehow supposed to be ashamed simply for being white for the sins of YOUR fathers - Because, you know, people from hundreds of years ago should've known better.

So again, honest question, can you show me where Fox News actually lied about Dominion, because everything that I've seen doesn't show that. For example: Sidney Powell was on Maria Bartiromo show making her claims about dominion and "how we have so much evidence I feel like it's coming in through a firehose," lmao. Then Bartiromo responds: "Wow, so Sidney, you feel that you'll be able to prove this. Do you have the software in possession, do you have the hardware in possession, how will you be able to prove this, Sidney? Sydney: "Well I got lots of way to prove it, but I'm not gonna tell on national TV what all we have. I just can't do that. Bartiromo: "Ok, but there's a small time frame here, the elections are supposed to be certified in early December, do you believe that you can present this to the courts and be successful in just a couple of weeks?" "And then you just get a load of bullshit from Powell. "oh well, I don't say anything I can't prove and the evidence it rolling in faster than I can even process," lmao. Then Powell goes on making comments about how state officials are receiving substantial sums of money and benefits and million dollar packages for buying this software. Then Bartiromo basically rolls her eyes and immediately follows up with "which government official accepted hundreds of millions of dollars in benefits for their family as they took on this software? Powell: "If I said hundreds of million of dollars, I misspoke. we're still collecting the evidence but it's more than one." Then Bartiromo quickly dismisses it "Ok, so you can't say who you believe took kickbacks" Then Hannity, tho he seems hopeful and doesn't immediately dismiss her claims, basically asks the same things in his interview: "Has anybody forensically examined these machines since the election" and why these supposed witnesses haven't come forward to speak publicly and signed affidavits? Then after all that Tucker calls her out: "We invited Sidney Powell on the show. We would have given her the whole hour. We would have given her the entire week, actually, and listened quietly the whole time at rapt attention. But she never sent us any evidence, despite a lot of polite requests. When we kept pressing, she got angry and told us to stop contacting her. When we checked with others around the Trump campaign, people in positions of authority, they also told us Powell had never given them any evidence to prove anything she claimed at the press conference. Powell did say that electronic voting is dangerous, and she's right, but she never demonstrated that a single actual vote was moved illegitimately by software from one candidate to another. Not one."

Pequot War (1636-1638): A conflict between the Pequot tribe and English colonists and their allies in Connecticut. King Philip's War (1675-1678): A conflict between the Wampanoag tribe and other Native American tribes against English colonists in New England. French and Indian War (1754-1763): A war between France and Great Britain that involved many Native American tribes, including the Huron, Ottawa, and Shawnee. Pontiac's War (1763-1766): A conflict between Native American tribes, led by the Ottawa chief Pontiac, and British colonists in the Great Lakes region. Any relation John? And then as for the 1800s: Creek War (1813-1814): A conflict between the Creek tribe and the United States government in what is now Alabama. Seminole Wars (1817-1858): A series of conflicts between the Seminole tribe and the United States government in Florida. Black Hawk War (1832): A conflict between the Sauk and Fox tribes and the United States government in Illinois and Wisconsin. Dakota War of 1862: A conflict between the Dakota tribe and the United States government in Minnesota. Colorado War (1863-1865): A conflict between the Cheyenne and Arapaho tribes and the United States government in Colorado. Modoc War (1872-1873): A conflict between the Modoc tribe and the United States government in California and Oregon. Nez Perce War (1877): A conflict between the Nez Perce tribe and the United States government in Idaho, Montana, and Oregon. Apache Wars (1851-1900): A series of conflicts between the Apache tribe and the United States government in the southwestern United States. And then those of us who practically just got here less than 100 years ago (Eastern Europeans for example) have listen ad nauseam to the blowhard descendants of these miserable blokes projecting onto everyone else how WE'RE the toxic, patriarchal imperialistic racists that should be ashamed of ourselves!

Unfortunately "political pressure from idiots" is another way to describe democracy. Idiocracy

Well even democrats say that, lmao. Most recent poll shows that 67% don't want him running in 2024. Apparently many here are too preoccupied with "hate watching" FOX news to see that liberal media shares a similar sentiment. Guess you forgot that it was Obama who built those "Trump cages" that you always cried about, and said that an open border is unsustainable. That it would give the wrong impression and put children's lives at risk. 48% of Democrats said they were less likely to use Disney products. 59% of Democrats said they would support a family-friendly alternative to Disney. The change of heart was in response to a comment made by Latoya Raveneau, an executive producer for Disney : “Our leadership over there has been so welcoming to my, like, not-at-all-secret gay agenda, I was just, wherever I could, just basically adding queerness. No one would stop me and no one was trying to stop me.” And recently, liberals also called for a boycott of Disney's Avatar for being a racist white savior film. 76% of republicans are in favor of the government taking steps to reduce carbon and methane emissions. 82% for republicans between the ages of 18-54. 84% of republicans between the ages of 18-54 agree that we should accelerate the growth of clean energy so that our state can be a national leader in competition for economic development and good-paying jobs. The majority of republicans in practically every demographic have been vaccinated. 60% of all republicans and 80% of republicans aged 65+ received the vaccine, and that was a poll from almost 2 years ago. The lowest demographics were the uninsured and those between the ages of 18-29. Ya, back in 70s about 72% of Republicans had confidence in Science while only 67% of Democrats had confidence. Now, 79% of Democrats have confidence and anywhere from 45%-63% for Republicans depending on the level of confidence. (High to moderate confidence) That's likely due to wannabe scientists parroting or misrepresenting something they heard online about evolution and confusing it with abiogenesis/cosmology and then weaponizing their ignorance against Christianity. There were also conflicting statements about the efficacy and need for masks at the start of the pandemic, along with confusion about adverse effects and the potential for vaccinated individuals to transmit the virus. Exaggerated statements from alarmists about climate change probably didn't help either. No thanks. I believe that this is mostly directed at people who participate in performative activism without thoughtful consideration, using self-righteous nagging to gain a political advantage and destroy the livelihood of others over petty offenses without due process. You could probably lump in environmental terrorists (ex. train derailment wokees) and hyperbolic climate alarmists who use exaggerated claims as a means of persuasion. Most are preoccupied with trying to save the world without trying to understand it first. Yep, all those misogynistic women at those pro-life rally's, eh? See, it's not so hard to address various types of gish-gallops. Now you try: "The left wing really has no other agenda other than "fuck you." Fuck The Police Fuck Peaceful Protest Fuck Christians (lock them in their churches and leave them for dead) Fuck White People Fuck Family Values Fuck the right to life Fuck Fetuses (no different than a clump of cancer cells) Fuck Personal responsibility Fuck Nuclear Power Fuck the free world/market Fuck Avatar (Boycott That Racist White Savior Film!) Fuck Capitalism Fuck Homeland Security Fuck A Secure Border Fuck banning drugs and prostitution Fuck the Clevland Indians Fuck Aunt Jemima Fuck FOX News (can't stop "hate watching" it)" I have the feeling that I might've missed a few. . .

That was actually part of a $100 Million dollar campaign. I was keeping an eye out for them, but apparently I missed it. I really liked the Bud Light commercial with the guy dancing to that song on the phone while being on hold. I actually did the same thing with that exact song awhile back. It was usually the hold song when dealing with medical institutions. Edit to add ad:

I thought the lies were pretty obvious and didn't need fact checking to begin with.

So like I said to begin with, it’s anti-woke people trying to redefine woke to mean any lefty thing they disagree with. Well now you're ignoring the part where it said: “woke” has evolved into a single-word summation of leftist political ideology, centered on social justice politics and critical race theory. This framing of “woke” is bipartisan: It’s used as a shorthand for political progressiveness by the left, and as a denigration of leftist culture by the right. Shifting a Black Lives Matter slogan away from its original meaning is arguably the least woke thing ever — yet that seems to be just what happened with, of all things, “woke” itself. To be woke is to have a native relationship to Black language, culture, and knowledge of social issues that arise in our lived experiences” Black Americans know their language is constantly being appropriated. . ." So maybe "woke" wouldn't have these negative connotations if liberals didn't steal it from the AAVE and weaponize it for their own political advantage in a culture war. I mean I just showed you how blacks are calling this theft of the language cultural appropriation and you guys deliberately refuse to acknowledge it, just like Bill is refusing to acknowledge that both blacks and natives have called Avatar a racist film and should be boycotted, yet here he is still boasting about how great it is to score political points in some silly woke war with Brent. So welcome to the club, I guess. . .

Great, I'm glad you've begun to recognize the negative consequences of cancel culture and its role in perpetuating this divisive and fruitless culture war.

Nothing, at least not in the sense of the historical definition. People like Bill Maher and other left leaning comedians that I agree with in their criticisms of cancel culture are using the word "woke" as a synonym for "political correctness gone awry" and is usually used sarcastically or to point out a phony show of progressive activism as referenced in the article. As I mentioned upthread, if one is going to criticize cancel culture, then it's probably wise at this point to do so without invoking 'wokeness' given all the confusion: From the article: "as use of the word spreads, what people actually mean by “woke” seems less clear than ever. “Discourse” can be about a zillion different things, but attaching “woke” to it usually denotes a perception of embittered exhaustion at progressive semantics and arguments. What’s telling is that the exhaustion seems to come from moderates and leftists themselves as often as from conservatives — as if there’s a shared agreement that embodying wokeness is a kind of trap, no matter what side of the aisle you’re on." And that's interesting because we can see how that's all playing out in this very thread.

Actually it kind of reminds me of those British parliment debates that are like rich people's Jerry Springer with all the oooooz and ooooohs, lmao. Quite entertaining actually. I'd like to see Jakee up there.

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