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here in Az one can openly carry any weapon gun, knife and recently we did away with cwp's, so you can carry concealed or on your hip just about any place you want to. light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

I have yet to go to a dz in nearly 5 years that gives a refund to anyone for weather conditions. -Brett Skydive Arizona does, i took a bunch of friends out there, unfortunately the weather was kind of poor that day with multiple holds. when they finally stop for the day because of it, they were given a choice comeback another day or get money back, some couldn't come back so they took the refund, the rest went back the next day. no hassles or arguments were needed for my friends to get their money back. that's the way it should be, if you have to go to the news channels to help then its a shitty biss. and they shouldn't be allowed to operate. light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

buy a tent, weather is nice that time of year for camping light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

would it classify as a car or truck, different mileage guide lines Trucks have to get 12 to qualify, otherwise most new trucks wouldn't qualify light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

Maybe they should tax everyone, and give an compensating credit to those who opt in. That way you will be happy and the effect will be the same except for a lot more bureaucracy. then your getting into tax hikes and I am again on the other side of the aisle from you on that issue. light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

my point, cars that are unreliable and worn out dont always qualify while good cars do, now there on their way to the scrap yard, and bad cars are still falling apart on the road. light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

Quote>>Why? we live in a free market and should be free to buy not buy whatever >>we feel like. B:Agreed! And with this plan, you can buy whatever you want. >according to some interpretations the bill will auto enroll anyone not buying their insurance , and others that say some 17 million will still be uninsured at the end of 10 years >>forcing someone to buy something they don't want to buy isn't right. B:You mean like forcing me to pay for a war I don't support, or a cross on a hill that I don't think should be there? That's called "living in a democracy." >those dollars were taken from you in the form of taxes, unfortunately we cant individually say what we want are money spent on. what this bill is doing is individually going after people, for the sole purpose of taking money away from them that they decided to keep instead of spending it on a specific product. if you want to penalize not being insured harden bankruptcy rules on hospital bill's. That way at least the person berring the burden would have only them self's to blame light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

he was a corporal before DA fuhrer!! I have actually had several history teachers referrer to him as Brilliant,beside the fact he was complete lunatic. and Great speaker as well. But to me his actions outweigh any talent's he might have possessed, plus he LOST so how good could he have been. history's written by the winners therefore its not supposed to remember the losers!!!! light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

Out out of what? Government healthcare or having health insurance? As the one who actually went through the bill, I know that the referenced section is related to the people who can afford to pay for healthcare, but decided not to have any coverage - neither governmental, nor private. They will be punished, and this is a good thing.QuoteWhy? we live in a free market and should be free to buy not buy whatever we feel like. forcing someone to buy something they don't want to buy isn't right. Dictatorships work that way, not democracy( that little fact doesn't really matter though does it) light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

yeah most under 18 mpg qualify-suv's new today would qualify for trade in under that guide line. a clunker shouldn't be based solely on that, mileage, mft date should have been in place as well, newer cars still have better emissions than older year cars, wouldn't it be better to get a million 80's and 90's off the road then 2000's. On the news looking at the cars they were showing that had been traded in were late 90's and early 00's, they should be on the road instead of the cars spewing black smoke, and leaking oil allover the place light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

how's someone not having been through end of life counseling, going to cause more elderly to suffer, the decision falls to closest living relative e.g wife,husband, son, daughter, mother, father, ect. I know from personal exp. light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

holy shit, im finding my self agreeing with bill, unfortunate that its not happening that way. to many newer, safer, w good mpg cars are being traded in, instead of the worst cars on the road light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

its in the bill, Bill, or can you just not be bothered to read anything thats not a dem talking gop bashing point here look it up SEC. 401. TAX ON INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT ACCEPTABLE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

i wasn't referring to taxes and other government imposed fees. Insurance is a product for sell, like a big mac, gov. should not be able to impose a tax on people for not buying a product for sell in a market place. we are supposed to be a free market, buying what each person wants or not buying. there should not be penalties for not buying something in a free market. light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

Try again. Please cite the page in the Bill before Congress that takes away your right to be a private patient. (BTW, you misinterpreted the meaning of section 102 too - it applies to existing plans that do not meet the new coverage requirements. Other sections of the bill deal with setting up private plans that DO meet the coverage requirements. Not surprising you'd be misled, though, given all the lies and disinformation being pushed by the right) as said earlier haven't gotten all the way thru ( lot of shit to read in the bill, and your right there is a lot of bull shit to wade thru coming equally from both sides). posting the section u talk about would be helpful to debate instead of a your wrong, bash gop more light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

Your post is a good example of the "distract deflect deceive" angle used by the GOP to demonize anything the administration does. Lie about it, then claim you want something different. no my post is my opinions, and interpretation of what facts i have read, im not trying to distract, to do that i would have to be doing something other than the subject at hand ( maybe a little of topic in this thread) not deflecting either as i was giving response, not segueing into another topic. you think my interpretations are wrong, i think yours is wrong. thats not deceiving,thats debating and thats what debating is supposed to due( not that that gets done much anymore) to try and correct misinterpretations and influence people to a point of view. so go ahead and bash away again. ps. addressed other comments in previous post light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

SEC. 102. PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT COVERAGE. (a) Grandfathered Health Insurance Coverage Defined- Subject to the succeeding provisions of this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable coverage under this division, the term `grandfathered health insurance coverage' means individual health insurance coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met: (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT- (A) IN GENERAL- Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day of Y1. (B) DEPENDENT COVERAGE PERMITTED- Subparagraph (A) shall not affect the subsequent enrollment of a dependent of an individual who is covered as of such first day. this sounds to me like " if you dont get it now you wont be able to get it later" i have not read the whole bill yet, but wouldnt that eventually lead to a single payer system if you cant buy coverage after this bill takes effect. light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

except for those he plans on taxing for not having insurance, as a penalty for not having it, since when is freedom of choice a crime? penalties are punishment for crimes, so what now every time i dont buy what Obama wants me to buy i will have to pay a fine, wtf is that shit. posting source so no one has to ask and blast for not doing so, from the bill it self SEC. 59B. TAX ON INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT ACCEPTABLE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. `(a) Tax Imposed- In the case of any individual who does not meet the requirements of subsection (d) at any time during the taxable year, there is hereby imposed a tax equal to 2.5 percent of the excess of-- `(1) the taxpayer's modified adjusted gross income for the taxable year, over `(2) the amount of gross income specified in section 6012(a)(1) with respect to the taxpayer. light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

Quote> So asking people (voluntarily) to identify sources of misinformation is an egregious violation of free speech and right to privacy by the administration, but going into your (and everyone's) health records to determine costs would be just fine? I'd have to disagree there.Quoteuh government run healthcare is going to give them the right to do just that when ever they want, and cost will be the determining factor for care. this form of health care will take it from private sector to fed. gov. control the "commissioner" is going to be a gov. ofc. not a private Dr. right now if your hmo turns u down for a treatment you can still get the treatment, you just have to pay for it. a single payer system would take that option away. personally i think if congress passes the bill their insurance should be discontinued and they should have to use what their trying to shove down our throats. not good enough for them, then damn sure not good enough for me and mine. light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

was pretty sure the actual sound on movie wasnt real, thats why i was asking, so they did have some sort of loud openings, thanks light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

in U.S.A your right its not ( we do allow dual citizenship) other countries the term fits and that was what i was referring to. P.S dont tell Obama that we dont think our government's not our master, after all he is trying to further the cradle to the grave society he wants, look at all those czar's he created. now if he could just do away with that pesky constitution he hates so much. light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

Are you talking about dual citizenship (the fact that the country recognizes you not only as its citizen but also citizen of a country B), or you're talking about more than one citizenship (when a country basically says it will only consider you its own citizen, no matter what other citizenships you've got)? I just cannot understand how dual citizenship could be illegal, as it seems to be only possible when two countries signed a treaty making it dual. I meant that in some countries you are not allowed to be a citizen of more than one country. I don't know the reason why countries have such laws. probably goes to the school of thought that a man cant serve two masters loyally.especially if both are against each other. light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

thanks that actually helps a lot as i was thinking the dz was actually on the other side looked kind of like a pea pit across the street there and couldn't help but wonder why people would be landing around runway, that was of course before you posted your first set of pics. after that was just confused light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

yea. there is no way i'll have it before aff, which is only a few days away. i'm just doing some future planning right now, and thinking ahead. i do think a helmet will be the first piece of gear that i buy, and since the ones i'm considering aren't cheap, it will be a while. besides, i need to make a good number of jumps beforehand to get a better feel for what i think will be best. there is a much more important piece of gear that should be first in my opinion an altimeter!!!! different dz in your area might have rentals for helmets that would allow you to try many different ones. Sq 1 should have rentals as Sq 2 in eloy does. my prefrence was a mamba easiest to open in my opinion but still very secure in free fall. light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak

seen the movie several times, got one ? did the opening make a noise anywhere close to those on movie. never even been anywhere close to a round in actual use so. i know the sound when a modern canopy is opening up, when its not mine of course. do they sound the same or did they actually have a pop to them? i know probably stupid ? but still instrested light travels faster than sound, that's why some people appear to be bright until you hear them speak