AndyBoyd

"because its not fraud its failure to disclose. thats not fraud." Look in the mirror and say that to yourself slowly. If you still believe it, you have been in the banking industry way too long. If I said that to my boss, I'd be piling my stuff in a box and heading out to my car with my head hung low. I guess bankers say that, laugh, and head out for a 3-martini lunch.

This has apparently happened more than once. http://rt.com/usa/new-mexico-cavity-search-victim-451/ The war on drugs is a failure.

If it's not fun and rewarding, there is no reason to put your ass on the line 8 or so times every Saturday and Sunday between April and October. This is stating the obvious, I know, but skydiving has serious, significant risks. No matter how good you are, no matter how careful, this sport can bite hard and fast. There is no reason to take the risk if you are not having fun. As other posters have said, there is lots of other cool stuff going on outside the DZ. It sounds like maybe you should take a break and try some of that other stuff. After a while, the skies may call you back. Or they may not.

Are we surprised by this anymore?

And your contributions are as useless and shitty as everyone else's, bro. Praise the Lord And pass the Cheeze Whiz.

And your contributions are as useless and shitty as everyone else's, bro.

Agreed. Don't mean to quarrel with you so much, you were just the last poster. We have had boots on the ground, planes in the air, both manned and drones, in the middle east for going on what, 20 years (roughly)? They still hate us. This nation-building crap doesn't work. I am sincerely sorry for the guys and girls that got hurt or killed over there. Breaks my heart. We tried this crap in Vietnam. Same result. This clip sums up how I feel. No disrespect is meant to any soldier who served. I respect and appreciate your service. But as far as our involvement in the middle east: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRJ38y4Jn6k

I looked around for that full speech, but couldn't find it. Nice job to get it. I thought the movie quote was close, and I'm glad to see it was. Thanks.

***Point is. What the Iraqis do to each other is no concern of ours. Let them figure it out. *** You have got it right. There is a quote from the (getting old) Stanley Kubric movie Full Metal Jacket that is pretty telling. I can't remember it exactly, but it goes something like this. A journalist is interviewing a squad in Vietnam. An American soldier says "Can I quote LBJ? I will not send American boys 8 or 10,000 miles to do a job Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4BuQMJEKHw 1:10 into the clip, about. My limited research indicates the quote is roughly accurate. I guess this is my feeling about Iraq and Afghanistan. This is a job middle-eastern boys ought to be doing for themselves.

Tried to make the link clicky. Hope I did it right. Don't want to get into a fight on this one, but I've heard this in the media -- even Al Qaeda thinks these ISIS guys are too aggressive? Yikers.

You already got called out by Ryoder for making such a ridiculous post (Post 150). Turtle has conceded the point I was making (Post 151). Yet you still want to fight! Dude, the fight is over on this. You lost. A long time ago. Let it go. Please. This will be my last comment on this. I am sure that you will take one last shot at me. Go ahead. I hope it makes you feel better.

True. However, I think in a lot of cases the plaintiff's attorney in a civil case would actually have a strong DISincentive to try to pressure a prosecutor to file criminal charges. The reason is that if criminal charges are filed, the defendant may well switch their priorities and their financial resources to defending the greater legal risk: the criminal case. This could leave the defendant unable to pay a civil settlement so the plaintiff's civil attorney won't get paid. Never a happy outcome for any attorney. Right.

Oh, for chrissake! AndyBoyd already clearly explained in this thread: A citizen cannot hire an attorney to open a criminal case; Only a prosecutor can initiate an criminal case. Even after he explained it, Turtle insisted it could be done. Thank you.

Wow. I try to let this go, and I'm attacked from all sides. Amazing. Well, I hope you and Turtle have great weekends. Take care guys.

No, I've not had the pleasure. BTW, take a close look at the guy's post, which I've quoted. He responded to his own post to take a swipe at me. But I'm the bad guy?

Instead of belittling, have a conversation, without condescension, and explain why. I didn't think he could. I let this go so I wouldn't have to get into a mess with you. Now, days after I let it go, days after my last post, you fire off at me, for no apparent reason. Why would you do this when I let it go?

I'm not going to bother. It's not worth my time.

+1 Do we believe that people can change? Do we believe that people should get a second chance? If yes, then we need to offer that chance. Which is not to say the DZ should not monitor the person closely. But if a DZO has talked to the person, checked his or her background, and is willing to offer the chance, then yes. So . . . that begs the question of whether or not the DZO should be charged as an accomplice, or at least implicated, if the sex offender commits another sex offence. There would be no criminal offense by the DZO if this happened. The possibility the DZO would need to be aware of is called "negligent hiring". This would occur if it was clear the instructor had a history of this, and the DZO did nothing to prevent a future offense at the DZ. But this would only result in a (possibly costly) lawsuit. But, again, not a crime by the DZO. I don't mean to be disrespectful by "talking down" to you. But there is a difference between a criminal offense, and something you can get sued over. The DZO would have to take that into account in deciding whether to hire that person.Negligence in any form can be raised to criminal with the right attorney. I have a hard time believing that the governing court would be all that forgiving in it's evaluation of what is allowed. Of course this is completely dependent on what the sex offender did. No, negligence in any form cannot be raised to a criminal offense with the right attorney. Only state, federal, or county appointed prosecutors can instigate criminal charges. You are not a lawyer, and you have no idea what you are talking about. You are flat out wrong. Give it up.

+1 Do we believe that people can change? Do we believe that people should get a second chance? If yes, then we need to offer that chance. Which is not to say the DZ should not monitor the person closely. But if a DZO has talked to the person, checked his or her background, and is willing to offer the chance, then yes. So . . . that begs the question of whether or not the DZO should be charged as an accomplice, or at least implicated, if the sex offender commits another sex offence. There would be no criminal offense by the DZO if this happened. The possibility the DZO would need to be aware of is called "negligent hiring". This would occur if it was clear the instructor had a history of this, and the DZO did nothing to prevent a future offense at the DZ. But this would only result in a (possibly costly) lawsuit. But, again, not a crime by the DZO. I don't mean to be disrespectful by "talking down" to you. But there is a difference between a criminal offense, and something you can get sued over. The DZO would have to take that into account in deciding whether to hire that person.

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+1 Do we believe that people can change? Do we believe that people should get a second chance? If yes, then we need to offer that chance. Which is not to say the DZ should not monitor the person closely. But if a DZO has talked to the person, checked his or her background, and is willing to offer the chance, then yes.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/anti-gay-north-carolina-republican-candidate-worked-drag-queen-gay-bar-report-article-1.1779271 Not that there's anything wrong with drag queens. Or Republicans. But the hypocrisy gets a bit old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRVfGn7Nv7s

I'm good with that change.

This is a reasonable comment, I have to agree. You could just say that to the person, though, without splattering food all over him or her. Look I know it's tradition, and the tradition is very much alive at my DZ. I guess I'm in the minority here, and that's OK. Carry on.