Westie

Check out this link to UK freely wheres theres a link to Arrse.com, A sort of unofficial Army Web site. http://www.ukfreefly.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=106 Edited by slotperfect to make the link clicky.

I suppose it all depends on how loose you are?!! I'd be alright, im a giver not a taker. Errrrrrr

The manifest is real bad. They've put in a computerised system that no one knows how to work. your also likely to get a window closed in your face when it all gets a bit too stressy! Windy as hell. on top of a big hill and allmost always over for inexperienced jumpers, Unless theres a few tandems to get up and then theres no stopping them. There is a good FS school there now that is in my opinion wasted on a turkey like Nethers. Its staff seem neglected as much as the punters. this results in a poor operation run by unmotivated staff. Unmotivated! who can blame them? To give you an example of how bad it is there. there are three demo teams who are stationed at Nethers and neither of them do any training or work there?! no wonder everyone has moved away! I hope they can get their act together for 2006. This is obviously one of the mentioned disparaging and negative review coming from a ex customer. Seems like all the negative reviews come from the customers and all the defensive reviews come from staff to me. Sad how people trying to give there honest opinon are branded as trouble makers. no body expects the Spanish inquisition!

Very cool DZ . Got a new Pac which is awsome. the bar and social scene is really good. good people with good attitudes having fun! Very professional operation. Will definatly be back in 2006, hope to see you there.

Cool Vid! I did some jumps with Pablo and Mikey at Lillo. Really cool guys. Learnt alot! 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

A few months ago I had some freefly coaching at an unamed dropzone with a unamed so called freefly coach who after doing 8 jumps with me recomended that I go away and just feel the air for the next couple of jumps?? As you can imagine, it aint to cheep to jump in the UK especialy when being coached. I felt let down and feel that Ive not improved after the coaching or by implimenting the touchy feely advice I got. What does, "feel the air", actualy mean ? Im sort of get the feeling Ive been fobbed off with some pretty broad advice. Is this normal practice for coaches to give the old just feel it more line? would like to hear peoples thoughts on what I consider to be this lazy coaching style. 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

I'd seriously blow old Nethers off if you want to get back in the air over the UK and not be disappointed! Get up to hib for the Freefly scrambles. you got the time and they sure got the quality! 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

I thought Lillo was a nice place with good instructors for all diciplines. It has pretty good weather, and is cheap to get to from the UK. Lillo does however lack organisation, has poor customer service and suffers from having a feel bad factor! EG, Xmas boogie! After that event I felt let down and bullshitted by the Dz over its bogus credentials published in the brit mag! However Im happy to say Lillo has realised its mistakes and is trying to turn it around. This place is still in its infancy, but its growing up fast!

I got the impression its when instead of dipping and elbow, you use the forarm and the hand combined with a knee turn to create a inplace turn? It seems Im not the only one who is a little sceptical about this?! 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

I was wondering if some one could explain to me what a paddle turn is. I allready have some idea, but have asked around and have had alot of different answers... Thanks. 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

Holy shit, The Uk has got a Dz that knows what their doing! After doing the military DZ thing for a while I was bcoming a little pissed off at the whole UK skydiving scene. A mate of mine invited me up to hib and I was very impressed at what I found. I am now split between cerny and Hib. Hib has the edge but is a bit out of my way. The best place to jump in the uk!!

Go with fire fly! Just got some new freefly pants from them. super good quality, perfect fit. They did a very good job indeed! Fast too. 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

Thats pretty bad man! I thought the old school creatures of Nethravon had stopped jumping through injury, or had moved abroad? Obviously not. It sounds as though they all decided to stay in the UK, move up to hinton and make a whole new batch of skydivers pissed off, by training the Hinton staff in customer care! Whats happening with British skydiving? Good Club atmosphere, R.I.P. 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

Im pretty new to freeflying (20 jumps) and was wondering as I'm mainly stuck in the UK this year, is there any permanent freefly schools in the UK? I'd really like to try and get my FF1 this season. 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

Cheers, Thats just what I was looking for! Nice one! 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

sure thing cant wait to get back down the DZ, I'd just like to get a heads up before the season starts! See you around. 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

For me I require something thats gonna get me back from long spots.but has the ability for me to learn how to swoop on it with an reasonable margin for error. My overall goal is to learn how to swoop correctly. in about 6 to 700 hundred jumps time I would like to have have a good foundation of knowledge so that I am confident in getting on a high performance wing. 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

Hi guys and girls. Ive got about 300 jumps and am thinking of getting a new main. Ive recently been told that I can do two things if I want to get a main with better performance. either down sizing but staying with the saber 2 or moving on to a stilleto ( or something similar) that is about the same size as my current main canopy. Does the fact that the Sabre 2 is a modern Canopy make it a higher performing main in comparison to a old stilletto of similar/larger size? I am intending to get on a canopy course soon and I am very current so please no comments on the fact I have relatively low jump numbers, thanks. 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

Sounds good Im gonna try to be there! ( beats flying backwards into the porter! Hey J?) Can anyone jump on the beach boogie or do you need a certain number of jumps? 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

Dont get me wrong,I think There are some really good guys at working at Lillo. People like Andy Guller and some of the other instructors who put on some of the talks in the evenings were cool guys. I was more peeved off at the false advertising and the incident on new years eve. 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

Oh, so I guess its still as good as it was over Christmas then? That a shame, I thought that place was gonna be the new place to go in Europe. Back to empuria. Are you the AFF guy working out there I met this New years? 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

Why? That place sucks! If it wernt for the efforts of some of the staff and organizers, the Christmas Boogie would have been a complete wash out! I hope its better there now?! 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

Cheers everyone. Will try all of the above 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

Being relatively new to the sport I don't really have many Christmas boogie comparisons. But this is my ten pence worth anyway. I thought jumping from the Beech was awesome, It so fast and has a great door for launching a large base! The Organizing from Andy Guler was good and I learned a lot from him, He really made everyone seem special and was always ready to answer any of the groups questions. Didn't really have much to do with the freefly organizing but those guys looked busy, especially the guy from babylon. Was not to happy with some of the ads for the boogie promising canopy demos, another two planes and free beer! What happened to that lot? The big disappointment for me was the new years eve party that was supposedly meant to happen! At around Nine oclock everyone was told ( quite rudely) to exit the DZ bar? whats with that??? Things turned out all right in the end when some of the organizers managed to get the group of 30/40 skydivers into a local bar and provided some champagne for us! I think after that incident there was a bit of a bad atmosphere going around. All in all I did enjoy the boogie, but would have left a little cheated if it wasn't for the efforts of some of the DZ staff. 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!

I have recently brought my first RW suit with booties, they seem to give me a little more power to keep me in the formation which I like, but when Its time for break off and I start tracking I feel as though Im going very steep? could this be something to do with my new suit? 13's unlucky for some, but not for old Fred!