Holy Crap - The Irony.. . in Speakers Corner June 14, 2016 gowlerkQuoteStroke of a pen . . . Jesus said that? King James version: 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Complete Jewish Bible: 18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah — not until everything that must happen has happened. Disciples’ Literal New Testament : 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, one iota[c] or one stroke[d] will by no means pass away from the Law until all things take-place[e]. GOD’S WORD Translation: 18 I can guarantee this truth: Until the earth and the heavens disappear, neither a period nor a comma will disappear from the Scriptures before everything has come true. I hope this helps you to understand the book of ancient fables better. I think turtle was questioning the use of a pen at that time, rather than some other implement ...not the meaning of the text. But, quill or reed "pens" were being used by then. Maybe not a Bic or a Paper Mate, but a pen nonetheless.