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If you pull your front riser as far as you can (lets say 4"-6") I would hope you would have some tail deflection. You should have about 2" of slack in your break lines (on average). this means you should be able to pull down on your break lines about 2" before your tail starts to deflect. If you are able to pull down 6" your breaks are to long and you will not have much of a flare at all. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

Outdoor is much better. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

Yep. Love it. It's great on overcast days. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

glad to hear it. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

Kentlad I don't think your Q's "suck eggs". My question to you though is. You say you just finished level 8. Why has no one at your DZ told you what an rsl is? or maby they did but you didn't understand. Why are you not aware of your DZ's traning program in regards to cat10. YOUR DZ may still use it. I think it is great that you are coming here to get the ansures that you need. I also think you should not hesitate to do so in the future. But it seems to me that their is a lack of comunication between you and your DZ. It wories my when ppl HAVE to ask questions like "what is an rsl". I think some one should have told you this by now. And they may have. Continue to get informed and stay safe!! -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

I would be happy to send it to any one who is deserving. I would need an add. to send it to thought. Now I'm sad that you would not want me to send it back to you' I was sure that was what you were wanting me to do. I can't understand why you would not want me to send it back to you. It is such an honer to receve the tip fund. Why would you not want this. Are you sure you don't want me to drop it in the mail to you right now. You would not have to give it to Skyslut, you could find some one else deserving to give it to. P.S. How much money are we talking about to keep Skyslut from Missouri? You would have to make it worth my time. Oh and keep this P.S. between you and me. I would hate for the wrong ppl to read it. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

I would just like to thank SDUcoach for volontearing to be the next recipiant in this chain. I have been looking all over for some one that is deserving enought to receave the curren tip and add theirs to it and pass it on to some one else. So I will add more of mine to it and send it back to you. I would just like to say thanks one more time to Sducoach for your ever lasting vigelance in the fight to keep the tipping going. It will be in the mail on tusday. THANKS!!!!!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

Me as well. I wish I could find an avital for a salute. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

I have one two. Watch alti. All the same to me. I love my Suunto. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

Thanks for the reply to my post. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

Just asking. I had never heard of any one needing any repairs on just a 4yr check I know of at least 2at my dz How do you know it is the same one? Did you tag the many case in any way before you sent it in. The main rigger at are dz for a while did this and had atleast two come back different. It is hard for just anyone to check thier cypress. I try not to voice my opinion in regards to this subject as not to "stir the pot" I just didn't like it when some one is not alowed to express thier opinion freely. And with that said this will be my last post on this topic. Unless some one is not alowed to express thier opinion openly. I have nothing bad to say about the people at SSK as I have never talked to them. I have no angel just an opinion. PhreeZone They might be giving more effort thies days to make sure the right one gets back to the right person I don't know. I was only talking about the 4yr 8yr check (sorry for the typo) and if the electronice go bad just beause . I know ppl can do some bad damage to thier eqp. I'm out -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

I asume this was directed to me. If not sorry. I have not called them but I did atemp to ask Helmut some questions in person at this years PIA. The short of it was I felt like I was treated like a child and he was all knowing. Altought he wold never give any proof of any thing. He basicly danced around my and others questions. With answres such as. The cypress is the most acurate device and the other devices (such as altimiters etc.) were inferior or, The Cypress knows when you are on your back front side etc or, That question dose not have any thing to do with the topic at hand. Because unless you were asking questions about military aplications or their new pilot set up it was not on topic. I not ony shop for the producs that I bye I also shop the PPL I bye them from. And it is my opinion that I choose not to finachaly suport Airteck in any way if I can help it. Here is a question or two for every one. Has anyone ever been told that thier cypress needs to be replaced or fixed when you had it sent back for any of it's 2yr,4yr,8yr checks? How many PPL receved some one elses Cypress when they sent thiers in for a check? How many PPL even know for sure they have thier origanal Cypress that they bought or did your rigger just not check or tell you? -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

Scottjaco keep in mind it is not cypress I don't like. It is Airtec. I know it is splitting hairs but I don't want others to misunderstand. And I will pm you later with my thoughts. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

Show me where you have read and heard this. No. If you truly want to help educate, please contribute in a more constructive manner. Rather than spouting your speculative rhetoric, express it as an opinion and encourage others to form there own Ideas. Try to be more of a teacher than a puppet master. Blah. Blah. Blah. I'm done. Ok let me start by saying this is my OPINION. If scottjaco has talked to me he heard it from me. I think the cypress is a great device. I think at this time their is no better AAD on the market. I do not like the company. If you would like ne to take up more spase to tell you why I don't like them I shall. But it is just ny opinion. I also know that their are others who think the same as me. I beleave that they choose not to post because people will try to berate them or think that they are unsafe as I'm sure some one will do to me. Just remember this. Their are alot of people who have said thier "OPINION" in this threid but no one asked them to back it up bcause it conformed to thiers. Fire away. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

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I know this. I was simply stating what Cypress told us over and over and over again at PIA. And that is that it is not a foot reading that it goes off of but a pressure reading. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

I don't remember the specs but it was explaned to me and others at the last PIA by airtec that the cypress fires dew th a berometric pressure reading and not 750ft or higher. As you know thies change throut the day. I'm not trying to sound like an ass just trying to convay the way Airetech came acrossed. They didn't seem to be very nice about it. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

This is a littel harder to describe with out showing. Bouth are sewn in differnt spots. Basicly from what I understand the main lift web runs from your hip up over your sholder down the back pad of the rig all the way to the bottom of the rig than takes the same (revers) path to your other hip. The latteral runs from one hip to the other along the bottom of the rig. You would be better off to have a local rigger show you this as it would be easear to understand. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

This never made sense to me. There's a whole lot more vertical movement on a large RW jump as divers come down. Is this a 3-d jump, too? Seems to me people've been tracking long before any freeflyers came along... _Am I fully agree. But I didn't come up with the term. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

Hypothetically, lets say you are a DZO or are in charge of renting the equipment at the DZ. I walk in with my logbook showing I have been jumping a 1.5:1 for the last year or so, but I tell you that my gear is still in Iowa and I have jumped a 1.9:1 (Jedei 107 with exit weight of 200) a couple times, but never logged it. No other documentation confirms that. You rent me a Jedei 107 and I frap on the landing. I don't see how having a licens could change any of this. Hypothetically, lets say you are a DZO or are in charge of renting the equipment at the DZ. I walk in with my licens showing I have been jumping a 1.5:1 for the last year or so, but I tell you that my gear is still in Iowa and I have jumped a 1.9:1 (Jedei 107 with exit weight of 200) a couple times, but never logged it. No other documentation confirms that. You rent me a Jedei 107 and I frap on the landing. If you read all that I changed was the word logbook to licens. I for one am a life time member but see no reason to force my views on others. The problem is not with the peace of paper that is used (and I would think a logbook would be more acurate than a membership card) but with the person that rented them the gear. And let us not forget the biggest problem of all. The dumb ass who jumped the gear when they should not have. We can "what if" all day long. But how about insted of blaming the problem on some one else we start having ppl be responsible for their actions insted of sewing some pore sap just because you can. All I have to say is thank you Darwin for making the world a safer place for responsible people. If your going to go to the edge you had better make sure you have what it takes to make it back. I'm out -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

"Some of the FAA advisory circulars" FAA -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

[reply But our sport is already regulated, but we choose not to see it. USPA is our governing body, they also are the ones that issue the lisence. USPA isn't necessarily governed by FAA, but FAA does have jurisdiction if an incident occurs; so it leads to believe that FAA regulates our sport too. Sorry to tell you but are sport is not governd buy the uspa in any way. A "skydiver" is not requierd to belong to nore get a licens from the uspa in order to legely jump . And that is any kind or size of jump. The closest thing that we get to regulations is the BSR. Thies are inforced by the FAA. They are a very loose type of regulation. In my opinion I like it this way. Befor you know it we will all be wering bands around are arm and some one telling us were we can and can't go. Oh wate I think some one has alredy done that before. Didn't work out to well for the ppl with the bands. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

#1 Tracking is 3d because you are not just moving streight down. Their is alot of movment that can take place on one of thies dives thus a littel mor risk the more ppl you get on it. #2 Pylon race is were you have two or mor ppl with a tub (or ribin) the ppl with the tubs (pylons) stay in one place while others race around them. This can be don on you back, belly, or bouth. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

All I have to say is some people will NEVER git "it". Lets stop beating this thing. Unless some one can ansure If they get it back or not, as keven922 was so kind to do. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.

Stuff like this is what I was trying to say. The cops have to prove "beond a dought" what the chrimanal was doing. They cant say " I saw you do it" as they have no idea who they saw and more than likely you are no longer comitting the crime. So they use the fact that you have the gear to do such a thing to remove dought. Thus take the gear into evidence as proof. I would still like to know for a fact why no one gets their gear back. I think only a peson who has tried and was not able to get it would be able to ansure this. That is if ANYONE has tried. -------------------------------------------------------- Some one must go to the edge for others to be able to find it. But if you go be sure you can make it back.