sundevil777

he is....why do you keep believing him? Ya right, now that you've informed us of what's what, I've seen the light... Hey, I'll tell you one thing, it seems that Al Franken is now fatter than Rush. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

What should we do? Maybe nothing. Maybe promise to destroy their test site with cruise missles if we think they are close to doing their test. Maybe send Jesse Jackson and Jimmy Carter. Maybe get him a role in a Hollywood movie, that might make him happy, if he had a singing part! Team America, fuck yeah, coming again to save the mother fucking day yeah! People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

That says more about all the people who actually believe what Limbaugh et al say than about Democrats...... That darn Limbaugh, he is such a liar, blah, blah... I'm glad that libs think that way. It means they don't get it and will continue to lose elections. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I agree with you. I didn't think it was appropriate for a moderator to predict deplorable statements of another member of this forum: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2461386#2461386 People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

What a load of crap! He's said nothing to warrant that excrement. Conservative talk radio has been the demise of the dems entitlement to power, so I understand your anger. Your post sounds so thoughtful...bullshit. You say that the poor dems will suffer because they will regain power in congress and then also be corrupted...bullshit, they don't need to wait - already there. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I doubt that he said exactly, and only, that. But perhaps that's what you remember. He should have been more precise. He was likely saying he knew nothing of the explicit IMs, without making it clear. I don't think he said that. He would have been wise to elaborate about the distinction between the emails and IMs. That would make it more difficult for others to simply claim he admitted to lying. No, there is a lot of question about that. The quote in your post says nothing of the nature of the emails. Hastert says he told the congressman that is the chief of the page program, and talked with the parents (they didn't want it disclosed), and then warned Foley. Hastert certainly would have been wiser to have brought in the dem leadership at this time. So, newspapers, the FBI, and ABC did not find the original emails newsworthy. However, the dems continue to ignore the difference. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Ironic, sure. He was likely hating himself inside, you know what they say, wanting to get caught, passing laws to punish his own actions, etc. The simpler and more likely explanation is that he is a hypocrite. He can be both. Obviously he is a hypocrite. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Commercial turbofans have bulletproof jacket-like protection surrounding the blades, right? Don't turboprops? Engines like those on otters are still centrifugal flow hot section, is the compressor also a centrifugal type? Did it happen at a low power setting, after jumpers exited? I've spent a lot of time having fun checking out the engines up close on 777s, not too familiar with centrifugal flow types. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Ironic, sure. He was likely hating himself inside, you know what they say, wanting to get caught, passing laws to punish his own actions, etc. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

That is not what I said. The dems are not backing off their initial, misleading assertions that repub leadership "knew and did nothing". They continue to act as if the emails were damning, continue to not acknowledge the separation of the emails from IMs. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Exactly. Repubs are eager to find out everything. Dems seem eager to just hold onto the initial, wrong conclusions. Plenty of time left to find the truth. Let the chips fall as they may. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

They got it wrong. The original emails are not damning. They are just as quick to jump to a conclusion as you. There is enough time to find the truth. Repubs are very eager to find who knew what and when. Dems seem eager to hold onto the initial, false conclusions. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

OK, I think it might be a very poorly planned and executed, coordinated attack. At issue is that Foley was able to do the same to other pages during the time the IMs were not revealed. No, I'm predicting it was a dirty trick, that some dems had a part in this disclosure, and that they knew of the damning emails for a lot longer time than they will be able to justify. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

In my opintion, your fascination with supposed thrashing is not interesting enough to warrant a post. I'm just predicting about the outcome - who will actually have known about the IMs and when. You continue to want to believe it is a slam dunk for dems. If this story had come out a few days before the election, it would have been better timing. Maybe they'll do better next time, making sure there isn't time enough to dig into the real truth. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

No, what I'm predicting is that this was an attack by dem operatives, and if the knowledge of the damning IMs could be linked to repub leadership, I think they already would have. Nope, I don't think so. I think the scandal will turn back on them. Why? Somebody knew about these IMs. I'm predicting that the release of this scandal will be found to be a dem dirty trick, and they will have to explain why they didn't protect the children while they held onto the IMs from Foley. It is only going to backfire on the side that held onto the messages. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

When it is discovered who really held on to the messages, I don't think it will slip away as an issue. Lots of time left to find out the truth. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Wrong. You know darn well that there are 2 separate sets of messages. One of them is damning, one is not. For you to continue to pretend they are all in one group is intentionally deceptive. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Sink both sides? I think not. The reason is that there is enough time to find out who knew about the IMs. I don't think it is going to be repubs. If it could be shown that repubs knew about it, we'd already have been shown that. It will only take a little while to find out who really knew and held on to the messages. Still plenty of time to find out who did it and get that message across before the election. It would have been more effective against repubs if it hadn't been released so soon. There is just too much time to find the truth. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

No smokescreen. None needed. The repub leadership could not have been more harsh with him. If the dems had not assumed that the repubs knew of the later IMs previously, if they had not rushed to call for resignations before they knew what was going on, if they had not gleefully tried to score political points where none should be scored, then we wouldn't be having this cyber argument. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

My memory is not what it used to be, but I remember one as the Miami Herald, can't remember the other two, they were similar "some city - tribune whatever", but not the Christian Science Monitor. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

So, your conclusion that pit bulls are no more likely to do harm is based on what? 3 instances. That is hardly convincing. What about the instances where it appears there was no mistreatment? It must all be a big conspiracy. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I don't understand what you think is missing. Who has defended Foley? He has been universally condemned. That is a done deal. A comparison to how dems have handled nearly similar instances is worth examining, I think. I understand that liberals would rather continue to avoid that. Now, the dems are trying to get everyone to believe the repub leadership knew about the IMs when there is nothing to indicate that. It is more likely, I think, that dems will turn out to have know of the IMs for some time before getting it out in the public. That is just my prediction, we will see. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

3 newspapers. Do you doubt that these newspapers would love to have such a juicy story to fill their pages? Why is it "fair to believe that Hastert and many of the repubs knew early on"? I think you just want to believe that, and as this story that seemed so ripe for dems, the story they have falsely hyped starts to fall apart and the real story starts to come out... Lies that no longer go unchallenged: such as forged docs from CBS, Kerry's war record, accusations of rape and sexual assault against Clinton, and the beat goes on... People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

No reply? The reply was swift and very clear - he had to go. What was the reply from dem leadership for similar abhorent behavior? It was not so swift, not so clear - they could stay. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

He didn't take the money (he was going to wait a while and see, until they had done some 'business together'). That, and he agreed to testify against other members. ABSCAM was a huge scandal. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am