Cyco 0 #1 March 19, 2003 G'day all I am looking at purchasing a brand new container after cutting my teeth on a second hand Racer for the past year. The options I have are a Wings or the new Talon FS. As far as cost goes they are both exactly the same, with a similar number of options included. Now I have read a number of reviews on Wings, but not too much on the Talon FS which was designed with Freestyle in mind. Any first hand info would be appriciated Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
174fps 1 #2 March 19, 2003 Quote G'day all the Talon FS which was designed with Freestyle in mind. The Talon FS (Formation Skydiving) Was designed by Sandy Reid because bellyflyers didn't want to jump the Voodoo which was seen as a Freefly rig. The harness is the same as the Voodoo The container has a boxier design. Pin protection is the same as Voodoo I believe the newer ones have the cut in rear attachments DanBC jumps one ....thats enough recommendation for me Andrew Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #3 March 19, 2003 The new Talon FS 3.0 is a sweet looking container; I haven't jumped one yet but one of my coworkers loves his. They offer the "competition backstrap" (basically the same as the "cut in backpad" on an Odyssey) at no extra charge. Delivery time is around 8 weeks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyboyblue 0 #4 March 19, 2003 they still haven't figured out the riser protection though in my opinion. which is too bad, otherwise it'd be a solid rig, many other things are well improved. You can just look at it and still see the sides of the risers.needs deeper riser channels. I'm sure the mini risers are hidden, but the fat risers seem to peek out. also, not a fan of fatter style as mentioned before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #5 March 19, 2003 Talons are produced here in Australia by Parachute Australia and for this reason very popular. I have seen but not jumped an FS. The feedback I've got from the very experienced jumpers at my DZ is that it is a very, very good rig and very comfortable. I tried to order one but was told that the maximum main size recommended for the rig is 150 ft2. I jump a 190 and changed the order to a Talon 3. There is a difference here between FS and 3 (not sure if that is the case in the States). Check out PA's web site for more information on the FS (better info then Rigging Innovations web site): www.parachutesaustralia.com In any case I think you have a choice between 2 very good products. --------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rigging65 0 #6 March 19, 2003 I wasn't terribly impressed with the Talon FS, it seemed to be just OK. IMO, they should have stuck with the Talon2 design. I didn't like the riser protection, and the rig seems very overbuilt and heavy. To be honest, I've only seen about three of them, so maybe the others out there are better. "...and once you had tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward. For there you have been, and there you long to return..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyco 0 #7 March 19, 2003 I am looking at putting a 170 main with room to take 150 in the future. The researve is 176. I would be getting it through NZ aerosports and Mark didnt mention any size restiction?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #8 March 20, 2003 I would recommend you e-mail PA (go to their web site for contact info). I did put the order in for the T6 size using the Talon 3 measurements and my dealer came back and told me that PA informed him I could not get that size for the FS - I had to go for the Talon 3 instead. My container size is for Safire 189 and can also be used for 170. Best you get in touch with PA - my dealer did not know about the restriction, so the guys in Auckland might not know either, best you e-mail PA. Let me know what they tell you (you can PM me if you want). Also interested if you are getting a new NZ Icarus canopy with the gear and what your delivery time is. My rig is ready but I am still waiting for the Safire2 from NZ (5 weeks since order so far). PM me if you please.--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #9 March 20, 2003 I put together a T6 FS 3.0 last weekend with a PD-160R. If your Safire is not the "2", then it is closer to a 174, same as mine and will go in a T6 FS 3.0 OK. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #10 March 20, 2003 It is a "2" so it really 189 and I am not sure what you guys in the US call FS 3 and the FS in OZ vs. the Talon 3 is the same.... Anyway, I was told by PA who manufacture the Talon down here that for their FS 150 was the max size canopy. But not really a problem the Talon 3 is a nice rig too.--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Extrakt 0 #11 February 16, 2005 I've got a talon fs on order sized for a 180 sqft safire 2. They diddn't say anything to me about size restrictions. Their service is great, and you get everything for a set price ($2600 AUS) no little extras apart from the RSL ($70 AUS). Great for you guys in the states, you save heaps because of ex rates ($2089 USD). The reserve handles are really well protected also. Check out the site:- http://www.parachutesaustralia.com/s2/prod_talonfs.php Enjoi!! "If murder and suicide are illegal, then why is it ok to kill yourself and others with cigarettes?????" www.myspace.com/Hypoxicmusic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
