Squeak 17 #1 January 7, 2003 On the Sunpath website I found some very small writing that stated, ZP pilot chutes are not recomended. Does any one know why? The jav I just bout has (i think) a ZP PCYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #2 January 7, 2003 my understanding that sunpath uses 1 type of pilot chute on all rigs, a 28" "f-111" black pilot chute. grab your rig, and see if you can blow through the material of the pilot chute. it may be hard, but if you can at all, then it's "f-111", if you can't at all, then it is z-p. later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #3 January 7, 2003 It's blue and I cant blow through it.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #4 January 7, 2003 Quote It's blue and I cant blow through it. well, it sounds like i was miss understoodbut did you buy this rig brand new, or used??? if new did you pay extra for it??? if used, then it probably an aftermarket pilot chute that someone bought, and put on later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #5 January 7, 2003 It's used, but the original question was Does anyone know WHY it's not recomended to use ZP on Javelins PCsYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #6 January 7, 2003 Quote Does anyone know WHY it's not recomended to use ZP on Javelins PCs ya, i guess i did get a little off topic, sorrythis has been discused before, and i think the conclusion was that they just want 1 type, so you don't have messed up orders, such as wrong size, wrong color, wrong type of fabric or what ever. so it's kinda like a one size fits all thing. later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy38W 0 #7 January 7, 2003 Hey, bicho, if you still want those soft links PM me your mailing address -- Hook high, flare on time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apoil 0 #8 January 7, 2003 Quote Quote Does anyone know WHY it's not recomended to use ZP on Javelins PCs ya, i guess i did get a little off topic, sorrythis has been discused before, and i think the conclusion was that they just want 1 type, so you don't have messed up orders, such as wrong size, wrong color, wrong type of fabric or what ever. so it's kinda like a one size fits all thing. later That doesn't answer why they don't recommend it. It's the answer to why they only make one. ZP in a spandex pouch is more likely to slip out. What's the point of ZP fabric on a pilot chute? It's just an air anchor, you don't need the aerodynamic properties of ZP for a pilot chute. I'm not sure, but I'm guessing ZP is a more expensive fabric as well. Absolutely pointless for a PC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #9 January 8, 2003 Yes ZP fabric is more expensive and yes, ZP fabric can fall out of a BOC more easily if the BOC is worn or the wrong size. But I think the main reason they discourage ZP pilotchutes is because of their high snatch force. A ZP pilotchute can jerk the d-bag off your back so fast that it dumps lines. Mind you, line dump is rarely a problem unless you pack sloppily and use the wrong size of rubber bands. The other factor is canopy weight. As canopies get smaller and lighter, you need smaller pilotchutes to provide reasonable snatch force. It is mind-boggling for a factory to try and stock a dozen different sizes of pilotchutes, in three dozen colors and two different fabrics, then guess whether the end user preferrs hard or soft openings and whether they preferr hops-and-pops or dumping in a track, etc... The posibilities are mind-boggling. I peferr ZP pilotchutes because they last longer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #10 January 9, 2003 QuoteIt's used, but the original question was Does anyone know WHY it's not recomended to use ZP on Javelins PCs Might be because they do a lot o' business with PD and PD tends ot recomend a F111 type p/c Just guessing.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites