skybytch 259 #1 July 17, 2001 *skirting the edges of spam*The Sabre2 is now available for ordering through select PD dealers.According to PD - * "It is more forgiving of packing techniques than the original Sabre with soft, on-heading openings easily achieved.* The Sabre2 has a slightly flatter glide angle (at full glide) than the original Sabre and offers more responsive handling than the original Sabre, without being overly sensitive.* The Sabre2 has been designed "from the ground up" to be easy to fly, with lighter toggle and riser pressures than the original Sabre and when it comes to landings, it has more low speed lift than even the originalSabre."pull and flare,lisa----I am a nobody. Nobody's perfect. Therefore, I am perfect! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pammi 0 #2 July 17, 2001 Cool! I'm anxious to see how they do. I happen to love my Sabre and will have her for a while since she's a perfect size for me, but I'd like to see what happens with the Sabre2's for the future :)Our webpage Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 4 #3 July 17, 2001 Wonder how long the demo list is.. also wonder if I can trade in my relatively new original Sabre on one :P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikefarmer 0 #4 July 17, 2001 I hope this is a great canopy. PD could use some help recovering from this trendy "anti-PD" academic movement.MikeMike's Sky World Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merrick 0 #5 July 18, 2001 ROFLMAO - Oh Gawd dude, you're killing me... can't... stop... laughing! Eyes are watering... OH GAWD, here come the stomach cramps!!!It's amazing how much we've been thinking alike today!"If words were wisdom, I'd be talkin' even more.." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #6 July 18, 2001 Is it true that they made it more of a light elliptical than the "old" square Sabre design? Have you actually seen one yet?------------Blue Skies!Zennie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krishan 0 #7 July 18, 2001 I do believe they tapered the ends to help relieve toggle and riser pressure. I cant wait to try it, I am already on the waiting list for a demo. They told me it is going to be 3-4 weeks until they start sending out demo's. They are taking all the brand new demo's on tour big boogie's like Quincy and such. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #8 July 18, 2001 QuoteHave you actually seen one yet?No! dammit. But I ordered a bunch for our stock yesterday... so I should actually be able to touch one in 10-12 weeks...pull and flare,lisa----I am a nobody. Nobody's perfect. Therefore, I am perfect! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 4 #9 July 18, 2001 don't suuposed ya ordered one around 170, red/white/black for stock did ya? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #10 July 18, 2001 They take a long time to release their products.Vengeance...good parachute...released way late.Velocity...good parachute (albeit extreme)...released way late.They refute that Sabres open hard..'it's packing technique'. But it was the first 9cell ZP here and it took the market by storm.Stilleto was a definite winner thoughIcarus has been kicking their ass by releasing products pretty quickly (FX, VX), already the crossfire is taking offNow I like the work they put inot a product and everyone loves stilletos even if they don't jump them anymore.Maybe they can recapture a bit of the square 9 cell market again before Precision releases all their new canopies.bloo onesramon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpySmurf 0 #11 July 18, 2001 A certain mid-West DZ has a couple of Sabre 2 190's for thier student program, I guess to start replacing the safires. They are very slightly ellipticle, and man, let me tell you - when you pop the brakes - you feel the speed difference between them and saf's - haven't seen the spec on the aspect ratio yet, so my opinion is rather subjective. I ended up with a bad spot on Sunday (WAY out there), with no winds and ended up putting down in a soybean field, PLF'd the landing and ended up cutting a good 20 to 25 foot path through the field, on my back - the packer ended up picking soy plants out of the rig for a good 5 minutes :) I'd say for the upper end novice, it is a fun canopy to play with. Can't wait till they pick up a few 170's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #12 July 18, 2001 Quote10-12 weeks...Correction.... we should have our demo and stock Sabre2's by the end of August!!! Wooo Hooo!!!!pull and flare,lisa----I am a nobody. Nobody's perfect. Therefore, I am perfect! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydive4play 0 #13 July 29, 2001 OK, here it is in black and white.... Yes, it is out already, yes, it is taperd on the ends, No, it didn't seem to have any diff. from my Sabre (1)haha opinion given after 15 jumps. No, it isn't eaiser packing then the orig., Yes, it does have less pressure to toggle responce. Hope this clears any questions.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #14 July 29, 2001 QuoteNo, it isn't eaiser packing then the orig.Meaning it's still prone to slammers?------------Blue Skies!Zennie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #15 July 29, 2001 Quote Meaning it's still prone to slammers? I just assumed he meant it's that same slippery ass ZP stuff that's a pain to pack brand new..Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites