packing_jarrett 0 #1 February 28, 2008 I don't know if this has been posted before or not: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhJmNUFf3fk I don't really see what went wrong. Guy claims dislocationNa' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 1 #2 February 29, 2008 QuoteI don't know if this has been posted before or not: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhJmNUFf3fk I don't really see what went wrong. Guy claims dislocation Pre-existing condition? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hparrish 0 #3 February 29, 2008 It's gotta be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #4 February 29, 2008 Could be a pre-existing condition, but it's also why the IBA instructors are trained NOT to use the lower arm as a point of control. It can cause injury, and it's next to useless as a contol point. I would have liked to see the instructor/controler relationship work a little better there. Idealy the wind speed should have come down to the point that the instructor wouldn't have to slide the student out, but rather comunicate with them in place IMO. It's not always the easiest job to make calls on the fly though, and instructors do the best they can with the tools avaliable to them at the time. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hparrish 0 #5 February 29, 2008 yeah but he barely touched him (looked like a her). More like adjusting his / her hands & arms than using them as control points. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #6 February 29, 2008 Yeah, if it's pre-existing it doesn't take much, and I can tell you from personel experience, as soon as you grap their hand, they stop flying with the arm and start supporting themselves by pulling on you. It's one reason you'll see good instructors stay on the sidebody, until the student is very stable. Control points on the body are the same as AFF, they are the core mass (torso), and as secondary points you can use the legs down but remaining above the knee joing and the upper arms above the elbow. Anything lower, and you're asking for a rollover or injury.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #7 March 1, 2008 Sitting here healing from a dislocated shoulder myself (traumatic injury) this video makes me very paranoid that such a -light- touch from the wind (or other person) can dislocate it again. Sigh....Although it -is- the wind tunnel I'll test my arm in the first time back. Easier to climb out of there than try and save my life in the air with a non-functional arm. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaosreins 0 #8 March 6, 2008 our local (nh) wind tunnel states in their f.a.q. that anyone who has suffered from a prior shoulder dislocation is ineligible to fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peggs82 0 #9 March 8, 2008 Ow.... Yep doesn't take a whole lot...esp if you've had a prior dislocation. Just a little pressure in the wrong direction and *POP*.... I had a quick dislocation from pulling myself out of the door while I was closer to the net (think pulling in and rotating up)... I walk out now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
low_pull1 2 #10 March 12, 2008 whats causing all the shoulder injuries? Is it the long , hard, fast dives...then stopping after a dc 3 load.... probably doesent apply to this case. But many skydivers are ending up with injuries of this type. just curious. Maybe ill do a poll in one of the other threads. (i too suffer from a bit of shoulder ?????) whats everyone else think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daremrc 0 #11 March 13, 2008 I had a pre-existing condition when I started jumping. I thought it was going to be fine, but the belly-to-earth arch position puts the shoulder in a compromised position to start. Once you have any type of dislocation, you've affected the function of your shoulder, by either stretching or tearing any of the soft tissue that makes it all work. Long story short, I had a dislocation on my very first solo freefall. I finally got the surgery and the physical therapy required to re-tension the joint and I am now able to jump, albeit with less range-of-motion than I had before. I would *highly* recommend to anyone that has ever experienced a dislocation to see a specialist who will test the strength and stability of the joint. Before I had my surgery, I used to think my shoulder was 90% stable. The specialist knew exactly how to manipulate my arm to demonstrate the instability and within 5 minutes was prescribing an MRI. I had my surgery in November of 2006 and was in the air by May, so it's not the end of the world. Also, I found that my time in the tunnel was much tougher on my shoulder than actual skydiving, and I didn't get to a tunnel until I was 14 months post-op. There were a couple times in the tunnel that i took a funny bounce off the next and deflected most of it with my bad arm. I'm glad I didn't try it any sooner. of course everyones injury is going to be different so the best thing to do is see a doctor...Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
