daremrc

....No, I think you heard what you wanted to hear there. No internet rumor at all, I lived in the area and all of the fun jumpers I jumped with had the same things to say about Eagle Creek, and provided reasons I won't go into here. I qualified that by saying I had not jumped there, so take it with a grain of salt. I have lived in other metro areas with multiple dropzones and had not ever been told, by so many people in so many ways, that they had concerns about such-and-such a place. Did I say 'OMG its a terrible place?' No, I told you what I was told and qualified it with my own lack of experience there. I think anyone who is familiar with SDO would recognize that they put a high premium on following the rules and fostering their students thru the progression. Therefore, given that plus the views expressed by many to me about the 'other' place, I think it would be pretty logical that that is the place the jumper had heard about. Local provincialism or shreds of truth? Dunno. I was just relaying my experience from living in the area a few years back. Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement.

You gotta be hearing stories about the other DZ, in eagle creek. I have not been to the Eagle Creek DZ personally, but when I lived in the Portland area a while back I heard nothing but bad news about that place. SDO was my home DZ and I worked a little bit for Joe and Theresa doing a few coach jumps. They run a tight, safe ship no doubt with spectacular facilities and aircraft. I've jumped at a dozen or so DZ's all over the continental US and I'd say that their operation has one of the most thorough student programs I've seen. They don't mess around when it comes to training and gear. I wouldn't sweat it, you're in great hands. Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement.

Awesome. I will, thanks

So... I've been on hiatus from this sport for a while. When I was last jumping a lot, I did all of my logging via Neptune/Paralog. While this worked very well for me and was almost automatic, it seems the software has been updated in the meanwhile and now if I want to use the current Paralog on my Windows 7 machine I need to pay more money. I get the fact that people put work into software and feel they should be reimbursed, however in the event that I lose my neptune in freefall and need another, someone is charging money just to generate a new key for that device. It seems that would be a non-issue if the license for the software included support for all the alti's, however it doesn't.. Anyways, I got my hands on an old copy of the software and I'm back in business, for now... But I was wondering what anyone else might be doing for logging. If I've done my research correctly, it seems that Neptune and Paralog are in bed with one another and you cannot export Neptune data to any other piece of software.. Is that true? How about other alti manufacturers, or has anyone else been able to liberate their skydiving data from an instrument and use it with other, possibly open-source software? Paralog has served me well and the publisher has done a pretty good job about responding to most of the technical hiccups I've had over the years, I just want to know about other options. I originally selected a Neptune 2 because I wanted an alti with digital readout plus the logbook and data-download capability. Are any of the newer altimiters out there providing any similar features? Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement.

I dislocated mine skateboarding, lived with instability over teh next 10 years and it was livable - except when I found out about skydiving. I was a static line student and on my first 10 second delay it dislocated on opening. I had surgery in November, returned to work and skydiving in March, and now have almost 800 jumps. Get it taken care of, it's worth the wait! For the record I had a labrum tear referred to as a Bankart Lesion and tendon stretching as well due to going many years without surgery. Today, my bad left shoulder definitely feels like it is more restricted than the other one, but I have never had a sensation of it wanting to dislocate post-op. YMMV Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement.

This is the second thread I can think of where we have someone being told that they may not have the mad skillz that they think they have, and then they pound in. At least Sangi is still around.... Maybe we can make a sticky and hope that these two documented cases convince someone to slow it up a bit... The Setup: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1111481#1111481 The Incident: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2346556;search_string=xenia%20;#2346556 Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement.

Easy man... No need to create an environmet where people are afraid to ask a question because it might be deemed stupid. The guy has 18 jumps and he's asking questions. yes, and at jump 1 he should have an idea what this is already. i'm not saying HE is stupid, i'm questioning his instructors ability, and so have others. it's legitimate! I agree, but he apparently fell thru some cracks and didn't. I don't think any newbies deserve the "Seriously, WTF you don't know xxxx??!?!?!" treatment, that's all. Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bv_NqiT7pM Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement.

Just wait until you find out what a credit card check is... Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement.

Easy man... No need to create an environmet where people are afraid to ask a question because it might be deemed stupid. The guy has 18 jumps and he's asking questions. Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement.

My experince has been that it was specifically the canopy alarms that cause the backlight to go out... If you turn them off beforehand, you should be OK. At least as OK as any battery-powered alti can make you... Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement.

Bob, that was Lance Kirwin's tandem passenger face-thru-the-peas video and it was great! Anyone have a link that somewhere?? No but it was shown at a film festival recently... Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement.

I just started with my Coach rating last summer, and I like to remind all of my students of the landing priorities.. Land with the canopy over your head, in an area clear of obstacles, with at least a half-flare and PLF if required. So far they have all been able to recite the pull priorities, but few have recalled those landing priorities without my prompting and review. In the review, I remind them that into the wind, while desirable, is *not* on this list. I see the lack-of-emphasis on canopy skills and control an area that needs to be worked on in regards to our students. I voted 'predictable patterns' and 'hook turns separate', but I would qualify that statement to 90 turn separation, I feel a front-riser 90 is at home in a standard landing pattern as long as the right-of-way/clear airspace of others is considered. Also, I am a personal fan of setting the landing direction on the ground and not playing the first-man-down game but I understand at some locations the wind can change 180 with significant speed in either direction without much notice, so I understand the first-man-down rule... Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement.

I always like to think of sitflying as "Hey, if we're lucky, we'll get to hold hands and touch each others feet!" Who's got video? Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement.

The words right outta my mouth... Went from a Pilot to a Crossfire and loved them both.. But we're all just a little prejudiced towards our own brand choices, aren't we?? Good judgement comes from experience, and most of that comes from bad judgement.