Viking 0 #1 September 6, 2006 Went up to skyventure in perris for meaker monday with a couple friends and got in the tunnel. wow what an odd feeling lol It really showed just how wobly i was. After a couple 2 min turns and I was much more stable and able to work on my turns and fall rate without hitting the glass lol. I got about 12 jumps worth of time in an hour lol nice!I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #2 September 6, 2006 I'm a tunnel rat who can only claim one tandem, so I can't say much--but I WILL say that the other day, I asked one of my instructors how people learn to free fly without a tunnel. He just patted me on the shoulder and kindly informed me that I'm spoiled! (He's right, by the way--I AM spoiled, and I love it.)TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #3 September 6, 2006 so why havn't you started aff? If your freeflying int he tunnel you would breeze right through it.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #4 September 6, 2006 Woohoo...isn't it fun? So, what 4-way block did you do, Arthur? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #5 September 6, 2006 QuoteI asked one of my instructors how people learn to free fly without a tunnel. We spend a lot of time backsliding with our friends about 50-100ft away wearing horrified looks on their faces. Working on freeflying in the tunnel is almost like cheating ... and there's no packing involved. edit: "freefly" is one word... and everytime you say it, you have to pay Olaf a royalty. NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #6 September 6, 2006 QuoteWoohoo...isn't it fun? So, what 4-way block did you do, Arthur? Well i guess i shouldn't have said block. I didn't do any 4 way. I did a couple two ways with Suds after I was stable enough.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #7 September 7, 2006 LOL--okay, "freeflying." I haven't started AFF because there need to be funds available to complete AFF. The tunnel is a compromise until sometime after Christmas bonuses. And, by the way, I don't think for a minute that the tunnel time is going to keep me from going through the same learning curve as everyone else, including backsliding away from my friends. I just think that with the number of rotations that it has taken me to learn what I know so far, I would have to have a heck of a lot of jumps before I could do any of it in the real world! I don't think of the tunnel as cheating. In my case, it's more like RW, where "RW" stands for "remedial work!"TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #8 September 7, 2006 Jeez, Jules, I just watched last nights DVD, and you just better shut up!!! You looked great~I especially like the part where you stood up on Brad's legs....or was that Jason? I'm jealous of your skills, so stop critizing yourself! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jewels 0 #9 September 7, 2006 QuoteI especially like the part where you stood up on Brad's legs....or was that Jason? How is it that that just sounds obscene?? But, in any event, tunnel time pays off!TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Viking 0 #10 September 7, 2006 QuoteI don't think for a minute that the tunnel time is going to keep me from going through the same learning curve as everyone else, including backsliding away from my friends. I beg to differ. You had your learning curve in the tunnel. The only thing your gonna have to learn in exits, tracking, deployment, and canopy flight. You can fly your body already. Also if your not backsliding in the tunnel why would you in real life? I understand the money thing!! I couldn't jump for 7 months b/c of it.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VanillaSkyGirl 6 #11 September 7, 2006 Sorry Arthur! I misread your post. Sounds like you two had fun! Congrats!!! I'm happy for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jewels 0 #12 September 7, 2006 I beg to differ. You had your learning curve in the tunnel. The only thing your gonna have to learn in exits, tracking, deployment, and canopy flight. You can fly your body already. Also if your not backsliding in the tunnel why would you in real life? I understand the money thing!! I couldn't jump for 7 months b/c of it. I would LOVE it if you were right! I just expect some adjustment to not having walls and to being at a full 120 mph. They have the air up pretty high for me now, but it's still not quite at 120. Good news is, no plexiglass bruises.TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skycat 0 #13 September 7, 2006 Quote I would LOVE it if you were right! I just expect some adjustment to not having walls and to being at a full 120 mph. They have the air up pretty high for me now, but it's still not quite at 120. Good news is, no plexiglass bruises. Just FYI the wind indicator in the tunnel isn't accurate, plus add 30+ lbs of gear and you will go a lot faster. Instead compare how you fly with other people, which is really what you are doing in the sky. The instructors are really good, but if you are to slow they will struggle when flying with you especially in a sit. So after a session talk to them about your fallrate and see if you truely are going to slow. I'd bet money your fallrate is just fine.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jewels 0 #14 September 7, 2006 Quote*** Just FYI the wind indicator in the tunnel isn't accurate, plus add 30+ lbs of gear and you will go a lot faster. Instead compare how you fly with other people, which is really what you are doing in the sky. The instructors are really good, but if you are to slow they will struggle when flying with you especially in a sit. So after a session talk to them about your fallrate and see if you truely are going to slow. I'd bet money your fallrate is just fine. WHAT?! I want digital accuracy, here, people! Okay, so I can live with a guesstimate. Which way is the wind indicator off? Is the wind speed really higher, lower, or its a mystery for only the wind gods to know? Or worse, are they just tossing random numbers up there to mess with my head? Sartre and I were talking about flying together some, but I don't know how well that's going to work. She's tiny (although she'll argue about that one). Still, it might be good. I will have to ask about my fall rate. Matt would probably know, but then again, I don't know that I've done much belly flying with him. Otherwise, I'll ask someone after a session, when it's fresh in their heads. You need to come fly with me--okay, not WITH me, because I'm sure I can't match your skills--but with me.TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skycat 0 #15 September 7, 2006 I'll fly with you anytime (with you meaning in the tunnel at the same time ). , I actually think I'm going to head to the tunnel tonight to see if I can get in a few minutes since it's been a few weeks since I've had time to get over there. My sit is probably going to suck donkey butt after such a long break. Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jewels 0 #16 September 7, 2006 QuoteI actually think I'm going to head to the tunnel tonight to see if I can get in a few minutes since it's been a few weeks since I've had time to get over there. My sit is probably going to suck donkey butt after such a long break. I'm SO JEALOUS! I had about 18-20 minutes of tunnel time on Tuesday night and it didn't make the urge go away; it just got stronger. More, more, MORE!! Have a great time tonight, and yes, seriously, I will share my tunnel space with you any time you are available. We'll get sartre in on it--she'll join, too. Your sit still has to be better than my crab-scuttle-around-the-tunnel-and-hope-for-lift. I really like the drill where you climb up and down off of the instructor's knees, though. FUN!!! Why the long break?TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sartre 0 #17 September 8, 2006 Jewels, you and I weigh close to the same thing. I weigh a couple of pounds more than you, as a matter of fact. We would be good 2-way partners, I think. Bobby probably weighs less than both of us!! (Tunnel monkey that he is). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jewels 0 #18 September 8, 2006 QuoteJewels, you and I weigh close to the same thing. I weigh a couple of pounds more than you, as a matter of fact. We would be good 2-way partners, I think. Bobby probably weighs less than both of us!! (Tunnel monkey that he is). I seriously doubt that--but I can't wait to find out if we can fly together, anyway! Just another reason you need to come on Sunday. Oh, and back to the original post on here--AN HOUR IN THE TUNNEL? In ONE DAY?! I would do bad, bad things for that.TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bob.dino 0 #19 September 11, 2006 QuoteQuoteI don't think for a minute that the tunnel time is going to keep me from going through the same learning curve as everyone else... I beg to differ. You had your learning curve in the tunnel. The only thing your gonna have to learn in exits, tracking, deployment, and canopy flight. You can fly your body already.... So, all she has to learn is all the stuff that can kill you? Don't trivialise her learning curve. She'll be well ahead on one aspect of the game, but not on most of the ones that really really matter. That said, I'm sure she'll do just fine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jewels 0 #20 September 11, 2006 Quote So, all she has to learn is all the stuff that can kill you? Don't trivialise her learning curve. She'll be well ahead on one aspect of the game, but not on most of the ones that really really matter. That said, I'm sure she'll do just fine LOL--well, I'd really like to avoid the "killing you" part, but I do take it seriously and will work to see that all goes well. 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Jewels 0 #9 September 7, 2006 QuoteI especially like the part where you stood up on Brad's legs....or was that Jason? How is it that that just sounds obscene?? But, in any event, tunnel time pays off!TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #10 September 7, 2006 QuoteI don't think for a minute that the tunnel time is going to keep me from going through the same learning curve as everyone else, including backsliding away from my friends. I beg to differ. You had your learning curve in the tunnel. The only thing your gonna have to learn in exits, tracking, deployment, and canopy flight. You can fly your body already. Also if your not backsliding in the tunnel why would you in real life? I understand the money thing!! I couldn't jump for 7 months b/c of it.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #11 September 7, 2006 Sorry Arthur! I misread your post. Sounds like you two had fun! Congrats!!! I'm happy for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jewels 0 #12 September 7, 2006 I beg to differ. You had your learning curve in the tunnel. The only thing your gonna have to learn in exits, tracking, deployment, and canopy flight. You can fly your body already. Also if your not backsliding in the tunnel why would you in real life? I understand the money thing!! I couldn't jump for 7 months b/c of it. I would LOVE it if you were right! I just expect some adjustment to not having walls and to being at a full 120 mph. They have the air up pretty high for me now, but it's still not quite at 120. Good news is, no plexiglass bruises.TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #12 September 7, 2006 I beg to differ. You had your learning curve in the tunnel. The only thing your gonna have to learn in exits, tracking, deployment, and canopy flight. You can fly your body already. Also if your not backsliding in the tunnel why would you in real life? I understand the money thing!! I couldn't jump for 7 months b/c of it. I would LOVE it if you were right! I just expect some adjustment to not having walls and to being at a full 120 mph. They have the air up pretty high for me now, but it's still not quite at 120. Good news is, no plexiglass bruises.TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #13 September 7, 2006 Quote I would LOVE it if you were right! I just expect some adjustment to not having walls and to being at a full 120 mph. They have the air up pretty high for me now, but it's still not quite at 120. Good news is, no plexiglass bruises. Just FYI the wind indicator in the tunnel isn't accurate, plus add 30+ lbs of gear and you will go a lot faster. Instead compare how you fly with other people, which is really what you are doing in the sky. The instructors are really good, but if you are to slow they will struggle when flying with you especially in a sit. So after a session talk to them about your fallrate and see if you truely are going to slow. I'd bet money your fallrate is just fine.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #14 September 7, 2006 Quote*** Just FYI the wind indicator in the tunnel isn't accurate, plus add 30+ lbs of gear and you will go a lot faster. Instead compare how you fly with other people, which is really what you are doing in the sky. The instructors are really good, but if you are to slow they will struggle when flying with you especially in a sit. So after a session talk to them about your fallrate and see if you truely are going to slow. I'd bet money your fallrate is just fine. WHAT?! I want digital accuracy, here, people! Okay, so I can live with a guesstimate. Which way is the wind indicator off? Is the wind speed really higher, lower, or its a mystery for only the wind gods to know? Or worse, are they just tossing random numbers up there to mess with my head? Sartre and I were talking about flying together some, but I don't know how well that's going to work. She's tiny (although she'll argue about that one). Still, it might be good. I will have to ask about my fall rate. Matt would probably know, but then again, I don't know that I've done much belly flying with him. Otherwise, I'll ask someone after a session, when it's fresh in their heads. You need to come fly with me--okay, not WITH me, because I'm sure I can't match your skills--but with me.TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #15 September 7, 2006 I'll fly with you anytime (with you meaning in the tunnel at the same time ). , I actually think I'm going to head to the tunnel tonight to see if I can get in a few minutes since it's been a few weeks since I've had time to get over there. My sit is probably going to suck donkey butt after such a long break. Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jewels 0 #16 September 7, 2006 QuoteI actually think I'm going to head to the tunnel tonight to see if I can get in a few minutes since it's been a few weeks since I've had time to get over there. My sit is probably going to suck donkey butt after such a long break. I'm SO JEALOUS! I had about 18-20 minutes of tunnel time on Tuesday night and it didn't make the urge go away; it just got stronger. More, more, MORE!! Have a great time tonight, and yes, seriously, I will share my tunnel space with you any time you are available. We'll get sartre in on it--she'll join, too. Your sit still has to be better than my crab-scuttle-around-the-tunnel-and-hope-for-lift. I really like the drill where you climb up and down off of the instructor's knees, though. FUN!!! Why the long break?TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sartre 0 #17 September 8, 2006 Jewels, you and I weigh close to the same thing. I weigh a couple of pounds more than you, as a matter of fact. We would be good 2-way partners, I think. Bobby probably weighs less than both of us!! (Tunnel monkey that he is). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jewels 0 #18 September 8, 2006 QuoteJewels, you and I weigh close to the same thing. I weigh a couple of pounds more than you, as a matter of fact. We would be good 2-way partners, I think. Bobby probably weighs less than both of us!! (Tunnel monkey that he is). I seriously doubt that--but I can't wait to find out if we can fly together, anyway! Just another reason you need to come on Sunday. Oh, and back to the original post on here--AN HOUR IN THE TUNNEL? In ONE DAY?! I would do bad, bad things for that.TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bob.dino 0 #19 September 11, 2006 QuoteQuoteI don't think for a minute that the tunnel time is going to keep me from going through the same learning curve as everyone else... I beg to differ. You had your learning curve in the tunnel. The only thing your gonna have to learn in exits, tracking, deployment, and canopy flight. You can fly your body already.... So, all she has to learn is all the stuff that can kill you? Don't trivialise her learning curve. She'll be well ahead on one aspect of the game, but not on most of the ones that really really matter. That said, I'm sure she'll do just fine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jewels 0 #20 September 11, 2006 Quote So, all she has to learn is all the stuff that can kill you? Don't trivialise her learning curve. She'll be well ahead on one aspect of the game, but not on most of the ones that really really matter. That said, I'm sure she'll do just fine LOL--well, I'd really like to avoid the "killing you" part, but I do take it seriously and will work to see that all goes well. Some parts of the learning curve can only be covered in the sky, but hopefully my wind tunnel skills will still come in handy!TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Jewels 0 #18 September 8, 2006 QuoteJewels, you and I weigh close to the same thing. I weigh a couple of pounds more than you, as a matter of fact. We would be good 2-way partners, I think. Bobby probably weighs less than both of us!! (Tunnel monkey that he is). I seriously doubt that--but I can't wait to find out if we can fly together, anyway! Just another reason you need to come on Sunday. Oh, and back to the original post on here--AN HOUR IN THE TUNNEL? In ONE DAY?! I would do bad, bad things for that.TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #19 September 11, 2006 QuoteQuoteI don't think for a minute that the tunnel time is going to keep me from going through the same learning curve as everyone else... I beg to differ. You had your learning curve in the tunnel. The only thing your gonna have to learn in exits, tracking, deployment, and canopy flight. You can fly your body already.... So, all she has to learn is all the stuff that can kill you? Don't trivialise her learning curve. She'll be well ahead on one aspect of the game, but not on most of the ones that really really matter. That said, I'm sure she'll do just fine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jewels 0 #20 September 11, 2006 Quote So, all she has to learn is all the stuff that can kill you? Don't trivialise her learning curve. She'll be well ahead on one aspect of the game, but not on most of the ones that really really matter. That said, I'm sure she'll do just fine LOL--well, I'd really like to avoid the "killing you" part, but I do take it seriously and will work to see that all goes well. Some parts of the learning curve can only be covered in the sky, but hopefully my wind tunnel skills will still come in handy!TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Jewels 0 #20 September 11, 2006 Quote So, all she has to learn is all the stuff that can kill you? Don't trivialise her learning curve. She'll be well ahead on one aspect of the game, but not on most of the ones that really really matter. That said, I'm sure she'll do just fine LOL--well, I'd really like to avoid the "killing you" part, but I do take it seriously and will work to see that all goes well. Some parts of the learning curve can only be covered in the sky, but hopefully my wind tunnel skills will still come in handy!TPM Sister #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
