SkymonkeyONE 4 #26 September 8, 2005 QuoteI figure I had about 80+% stand-ups. I would have my feet wide, slide on my feet in light winds and lean way back, keeping the passenger's weight over my hips. If a soft stand-up wasn't assured, I could continue to lean back till we slide, leaning on the canopy I figure I am very close to Derek in this regard. In all but the strongest winds I am going to end up sliding on my feet for some time, layed back. I try to slide, slide, slippity-slide on my feet and then pop to a standing stop. My Firebolt 350 carries alot of speed across the ground during landing in no wind conditions. If it's a big, tall passenger though, I am generally going to forego the stand-up in exchange for a clean butt slide. I have only ever had one person; a tall, older gentleman; injure himself. He broke an ankle when he reached for the ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSEMN8R 0 #27 September 8, 2005 When I first started doing it I used to try to stand them all up until I broke a guy's tib/fib. That's a really shitty feeling. Now I slide them all in unless things are just right which is probably less than 5% of the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimblair13 0 #28 September 9, 2005 MY stand-ups are about 90%. However, I usually always have my student slide in on their booty. I just slide in on my feet behind them, I'm short enough to do that. I don't think it looks too funny, but maybe. If they're my size are smaller I'll have them stand up too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brettpobastad 0 #29 September 12, 2005 QuoteI never make up my mind until the end. ...almost exactly my method as well. I'm sure you know all the tricks for the inevitable and various problem students such as the 'reach for the ground with the feet student' or the ever popular 'passed out, fat chick slumping in the harnes' student. My stand-up to slide-it-in ratio is about 60/40. It goes in spurts. I'll go a stretch where I'm standing up everyone and than Ill go a couple of weeks where everyone gets their as grass stained. There are many factors and variable that seem to change for no apparent reason and in no particular order. The dropzone that I do tandems at now has older, worn equipment. And there are two differant rig types with three differant canopies of various vintage. Every rig acts different and they are all inconsistent. We have variable and gusty winds a lot of the time but we have lots of soft grass. This combination lends it self to more slide-ins. When I worked Paso Robles, California, I would go weeks without ever sitting down a tandem. The winds were almost always stiff, steady and out of the same direction. A wide open, hard packed dirt and scrub landing area, tandem catchers that knew what they were doing and all the rigs and canopies were basically the same and in good condition. A formula more condusive to stand-ups. Except for the odd training tandem jump, I haven't let a student help me flare since the last millenium. Brett PS Any claims to a stand-up percentage of better than 70% (under any conditions over a consistent and substantial period of time) are probably wishfull thinking"It's only arrogance if you can't back it up" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #30 September 11, 2006 Quote Except for the odd training tandem jump, I haven't let a student help me flare since the last millenium. Bingo! I'm a newbie, but I didn't let students help me flare. Typically, I don't need the help. I let this one guy help me flare this weekend. He started flaring at about 50 feet and with his adrenyline I was barely able to gt his arms back up. We slid in uneventful, but it made me resolve to go back to my old ways of taking full control at 1K steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefalle 0 #31 September 11, 2006 Ill let students fly the canopy around with me until about 1500 feet after that, its time for me to go to work. The toggles are mine from that point until we are back on the ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites