stratostar 5 #1 March 14, 2008 These are for the old farts on here, don't think many young pups will get them right? Howard you need hold back to give the rest a chance before you name them right off, this should be too easy for you. #1. Who, Where, when (time frame) #2. Two guys, who, where and when (one more well known then the other, what is he known for? bonus points) #3. Who , where, when #4. Who, where and when (if your really you can say where in the stack they are for bonus points) 5. Who, Where, When Good luck and happy guessing.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 5 #2 March 14, 2008 Aw, shucks. I thought #5 was going to be a "what is this plane." The guy kneeling in prayer is someone everyone here should know at least by name. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #3 March 15, 2008 #4 is members of The Plane ol Folk and The Other People building the Worlds First 14 Plane at Z-hills on November 2, 1980. The good looking guy on top is me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #4 March 15, 2008 That is for the bonus points in that one and as always I knew you would know very easy. And yes most should know both those by the tail, by name. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #5 March 15, 2008 I would never call you a lier, but I would Parachutist, who says Oct. 26th 81. So I have to take your word over print, seeing how you were there and all that. So you got one part of the who, and you nailed the where and when. You might get the rest if you think about who was in the stack with you and where they are in it. But in the mean time while Howard is chomp'n at the bit and foam'n at the keyboard...... Let's see if some of the young pups can step up. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,064 #6 March 15, 2008 Hi Strato, I've seen all of those photos before; some I recall and some I don't. #2 I think this is Charlie Hilliard and Lou Sanborn. #3 Maybe Lou Sanborn; and just maybe Steve Snyder, a tough one. #5 Lou Sanborn kneeling and Jacques Istel behind him. I think this is in Russia at the '56 World Meet. So, close, waaay out there, or what? JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #7 March 15, 2008 What your not going to try for some of the bonus points too?you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poppenhager 1 #8 March 15, 2008 #2 Lew sanborn & Charlie Hillard 1958 #5 Lew and Jacques Estel Czechoslovakia 1958........PopQuote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveJack 1 #9 March 15, 2008 Quote I would never call you a lier, but I would Parachutist, who says Oct. 26th 81. So I have to take your word over print, seeing how you were there and all that. So you got one part of the who, and you nailed the where and when. You might get the rest if you think about who was in the stack with you and where they are in it. But in the mean time while Howard is chomp'n at the bit and foam'n at the keyboard...... Let's see if some of the young pups can step up. I checked the date and I have it correct. That photo is on my wall. I have most of the other names but I will leave it up to other people. But I will give on hint. One of the people in the Worlds First 14 Plane has already had his name come up in this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stratostar 5 #10 March 15, 2008 Correct Charles and Lew 1958 @ the world cup. #5 is is also correct as to who, credits say 1958 Yugoslavia @ the adriatic cup Now for the bonus points.... What is Charles Hillard Best known for and with who? I'm sure that would be an easy one for you POPs, let see anyone else can get.....Just for sporting fun. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 3 #11 March 15, 2008 #1 Who: Diane Rolland, Tim Long, Rich Brooks, Bill Delli, Mark Seckler. Where: Perris Valley When: Late 70's SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stratostar 5 #12 March 15, 2008 You and POP's have done well over all for having so much dust on your brains..... #3 is not Steve Snyder but he plays a backstage role...(hint) you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JSBIRD 1 #13 March 15, 2008 Quote Correct Charles and Lew 1958 @ the world cup. #5 is is also correct as to who, credits say 1958 Yugoslavia @ the adriatic cup Now for the bonus points.... What is Charles Hillard Best known for and with who? I'm sure that would be an easy one for you POPs, let see anyone else can get.....Just for sporting fun. 'First' USA baton pass, with Steve Snyder. BASE359"Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stratostar 5 #14 March 15, 2008 Ah and the white haired wise one speakith we have location correct, but it's not the names we looking for here rather "The name". So spark you get bonus points for knowing names of jumpers, but who among the old wise ones can get the name?you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stratostar 5 #15 March 15, 2008 Good job, hand the man a cigar. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #16 March 15, 2008 The CRW stack photo looks like the one I've seen on the wall at West Tennessee Skydiving which is touted as the TN state record, but I don't think it's the same. They're all before my time anyway..."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JerryBaumchen 1,064 #17 March 15, 2008 Hi Strato, Re: What is Charles Hillard Best known for and with who? As mentioned, first baton pass in US but I will wager he is better known for being a world champion acrobatic pilot. I 'think' he also owned a Ford dealership in Ft. Worth, I seem to remember looking at a car there once. JerryBaumchen PS) Now for some other bonus points: Where was the first baton pass in N. America made at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stratostar 5 #18 March 15, 2008 #1. Winner, mosparky with "Perrisites" Perris Valley 1979 #2. Winners POP's & Jerry. for #2 & 5, #2 Charles & Lew 2 & #5 Lew & Jacques Istel #3. Winner, Jerry, Lew again #4. Winner Jack, world record 14 stack z-hills #5. See above #2 Special bonus point to JSbird for getting First baton pass with S.S. And we can for get Mr. Howard who I know had the answers all along but gave other a chance to play along. Anyway heres to Lew Sanborn D-1, one tough old bird. These images were taken from my 1982 Parachutist and a write up about the first issued 30 year membership in USPA awarded to Lew. You do the math, and the man is still jumping, pretty damn cool in my book, so hat's off to Lew and those of you in his class. P.S. I hope all you old farts (said with respect) have been writing all this crap down, should make a good read.... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stratostar 5 #19 March 15, 2008 QuotePS) Now for some other bonus points: Where was the first baton pass in N. America made at? Raise'n hand and waving & shouting out loud. Oh I know, I know, I know...... 1958 The first baton pass is made in free fall by two Americans, Lyle Hoffman and James Pearson, over Vancouver, Canada. A month later, Steve Snyder and Charles Hilliard, alternates on 1958 U.S.Team, accomplish same feat over Ft. Bragg N.C.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites howardwhite 5 #20 March 15, 2008 Quote And we can for get Mr. Howard who I know had the answers all along but gave other a chance to play along. So what do I win for being a good sport? Quote Anyway heres to Lew Sanborn D-1, one tough old bird. Amen to that. I've known Lew since 1966 and had the pleasure of being on a impromptu sunset six-way with him last summer. Three of the people on the jump had a total of He's always been humble, generous with his time and wisdom, and a genuinely nice person. I talked with him a few weeks ago -- he was on his way to a POPS thing in Florida. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveJack 1 #21 March 15, 2008 Quote Anyway heres to Lew Sanborn D-1, one tough old bird. These images were taken from my 1982 Parachutist and a write up about the first issued 30 year membership in USPA awarded to Lew. You do the math, and the man is still jumping, pretty damn cool in my book, so hat's off to Lew and those of you in his class. Quote Since noboby responded to my hint to who one of the people was in the 14 Plane, I'll give the answer. It was of course- Lew Sanborn! Lew was doing CREW with us at Z-hills in the early 1980's and I was honored to be on the same 8 man team with him at the First World Cup of CRW. We won the silver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jonstark 8 #22 March 15, 2008 Lew and I both got our first CRW hookup on the same jump. May 1977, jump #133 for me, Lew and I went base/pin out of Mr Douglas in Deland and a ten man star was built. We broke into two 5 man stars, rotated and were to fly back together but we ran out of time. Lew and I found ourselves very close just after opening with very compatible descent rates. Lew was slightly lower and just kinda sidled over and I reached down, grabbed his top skin and hooked my feet into his center lines. Lew was jumping that ratty old rainbow patterned Cloud and I was under a Strato-Star. I had lost a Huarachi sandal on opening which he noticed as he docked. "Hey! You've only got one shoe. This is my first hook-up!" I replied "Me too" practically thru tears because I had been trying for months to hook up with my DZ partner, Robert Kempf, but all we had been able to do was wrap ourselves and get rope burnt hands and legs. Here Lew and I had done it without even thinking about it. Lew went on to become very enthusiastic about CRW and as seen here participated in some pretty amazing jumps. All I could do was watch those guys with my jaw agape. WoW! jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites itllclear 1 #23 March 15, 2008 Quote #1 Who: Diane Rolland, Tim Long, Rich Brooks, Bill Delli, Mark Seckler. Where: Perris Valley When: Late 70's Who's that guy in red @ 12:00?"Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JerryBaumchen 1,064 #24 March 15, 2008 Hi Strato, Well done on the first baton pass; but it was actually at Abbotsford, BC. And the occasion was the US Nationals that were held outside of the US that year. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NickDG 23 #25 March 15, 2008 >>Well done on the first baton pass; but it was actually at Abbotsford, BC.And the reason, I've always heard, was at the time most U.S. DZs still enforced the rule of one jumper per pass only. But that simple baton pass was the very beginning of the RW revolution. And in a way we still haven't got it right. We have to over-protect and reign in our students, as that's where our future is. And we have to let our experienced jumpers go, as that's where our progress is . . . NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
SkydiveJack 1 #9 March 15, 2008 Quote I would never call you a lier, but I would Parachutist, who says Oct. 26th 81. So I have to take your word over print, seeing how you were there and all that. So you got one part of the who, and you nailed the where and when. You might get the rest if you think about who was in the stack with you and where they are in it. But in the mean time while Howard is chomp'n at the bit and foam'n at the keyboard...... Let's see if some of the young pups can step up. I checked the date and I have it correct. That photo is on my wall. I have most of the other names but I will leave it up to other people. But I will give on hint. One of the people in the Worlds First 14 Plane has already had his name come up in this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #10 March 15, 2008 Correct Charles and Lew 1958 @ the world cup. #5 is is also correct as to who, credits say 1958 Yugoslavia @ the adriatic cup Now for the bonus points.... What is Charles Hillard Best known for and with who? I'm sure that would be an easy one for you POPs, let see anyone else can get.....Just for sporting fun. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #11 March 15, 2008 #1 Who: Diane Rolland, Tim Long, Rich Brooks, Bill Delli, Mark Seckler. Where: Perris Valley When: Late 70's SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #12 March 15, 2008 You and POP's have done well over all for having so much dust on your brains..... #3 is not Steve Snyder but he plays a backstage role...(hint) you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSBIRD 1 #13 March 15, 2008 Quote Correct Charles and Lew 1958 @ the world cup. #5 is is also correct as to who, credits say 1958 Yugoslavia @ the adriatic cup Now for the bonus points.... What is Charles Hillard Best known for and with who? I'm sure that would be an easy one for you POPs, let see anyone else can get.....Just for sporting fun. 'First' USA baton pass, with Steve Snyder. BASE359"Now I've settled down, in a quiet little town, and forgot about everything" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #14 March 15, 2008 Ah and the white haired wise one speakith we have location correct, but it's not the names we looking for here rather "The name". So spark you get bonus points for knowing names of jumpers, but who among the old wise ones can get the name?you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #15 March 15, 2008 Good job, hand the man a cigar. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #16 March 15, 2008 The CRW stack photo looks like the one I've seen on the wall at West Tennessee Skydiving which is touted as the TN state record, but I don't think it's the same. They're all before my time anyway..."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,064 #17 March 15, 2008 Hi Strato, Re: What is Charles Hillard Best known for and with who? As mentioned, first baton pass in US but I will wager he is better known for being a world champion acrobatic pilot. I 'think' he also owned a Ford dealership in Ft. Worth, I seem to remember looking at a car there once. JerryBaumchen PS) Now for some other bonus points: Where was the first baton pass in N. America made at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #18 March 15, 2008 #1. Winner, mosparky with "Perrisites" Perris Valley 1979 #2. Winners POP's & Jerry. for #2 & 5, #2 Charles & Lew 2 & #5 Lew & Jacques Istel #3. Winner, Jerry, Lew again #4. Winner Jack, world record 14 stack z-hills #5. See above #2 Special bonus point to JSbird for getting First baton pass with S.S. And we can for get Mr. Howard who I know had the answers all along but gave other a chance to play along. Anyway heres to Lew Sanborn D-1, one tough old bird. These images were taken from my 1982 Parachutist and a write up about the first issued 30 year membership in USPA awarded to Lew. You do the math, and the man is still jumping, pretty damn cool in my book, so hat's off to Lew and those of you in his class. P.S. I hope all you old farts (said with respect) have been writing all this crap down, should make a good read.... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #19 March 15, 2008 QuotePS) Now for some other bonus points: Where was the first baton pass in N. America made at? Raise'n hand and waving & shouting out loud. Oh I know, I know, I know...... 1958 The first baton pass is made in free fall by two Americans, Lyle Hoffman and James Pearson, over Vancouver, Canada. A month later, Steve Snyder and Charles Hilliard, alternates on 1958 U.S.Team, accomplish same feat over Ft. Bragg N.C.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 5 #20 March 15, 2008 Quote And we can for get Mr. Howard who I know had the answers all along but gave other a chance to play along. So what do I win for being a good sport? Quote Anyway heres to Lew Sanborn D-1, one tough old bird. Amen to that. I've known Lew since 1966 and had the pleasure of being on a impromptu sunset six-way with him last summer. Three of the people on the jump had a total of He's always been humble, generous with his time and wisdom, and a genuinely nice person. I talked with him a few weeks ago -- he was on his way to a POPS thing in Florida. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #21 March 15, 2008 Quote Anyway heres to Lew Sanborn D-1, one tough old bird. These images were taken from my 1982 Parachutist and a write up about the first issued 30 year membership in USPA awarded to Lew. You do the math, and the man is still jumping, pretty damn cool in my book, so hat's off to Lew and those of you in his class. Quote Since noboby responded to my hint to who one of the people was in the 14 Plane, I'll give the answer. It was of course- Lew Sanborn! Lew was doing CREW with us at Z-hills in the early 1980's and I was honored to be on the same 8 man team with him at the First World Cup of CRW. We won the silver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jonstark 8 #22 March 15, 2008 Lew and I both got our first CRW hookup on the same jump. May 1977, jump #133 for me, Lew and I went base/pin out of Mr Douglas in Deland and a ten man star was built. We broke into two 5 man stars, rotated and were to fly back together but we ran out of time. Lew and I found ourselves very close just after opening with very compatible descent rates. Lew was slightly lower and just kinda sidled over and I reached down, grabbed his top skin and hooked my feet into his center lines. Lew was jumping that ratty old rainbow patterned Cloud and I was under a Strato-Star. I had lost a Huarachi sandal on opening which he noticed as he docked. "Hey! You've only got one shoe. This is my first hook-up!" I replied "Me too" practically thru tears because I had been trying for months to hook up with my DZ partner, Robert Kempf, but all we had been able to do was wrap ourselves and get rope burnt hands and legs. Here Lew and I had done it without even thinking about it. Lew went on to become very enthusiastic about CRW and as seen here participated in some pretty amazing jumps. All I could do was watch those guys with my jaw agape. WoW! jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites itllclear 1 #23 March 15, 2008 Quote #1 Who: Diane Rolland, Tim Long, Rich Brooks, Bill Delli, Mark Seckler. Where: Perris Valley When: Late 70's Who's that guy in red @ 12:00?"Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JerryBaumchen 1,064 #24 March 15, 2008 Hi Strato, Well done on the first baton pass; but it was actually at Abbotsford, BC. And the occasion was the US Nationals that were held outside of the US that year. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NickDG 23 #25 March 15, 2008 >>Well done on the first baton pass; but it was actually at Abbotsford, BC.And the reason, I've always heard, was at the time most U.S. DZs still enforced the rule of one jumper per pass only. But that simple baton pass was the very beginning of the RW revolution. And in a way we still haven't got it right. We have to over-protect and reign in our students, as that's where our future is. And we have to let our experienced jumpers go, as that's where our progress is . . . NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
jonstark 8 #22 March 15, 2008 Lew and I both got our first CRW hookup on the same jump. May 1977, jump #133 for me, Lew and I went base/pin out of Mr Douglas in Deland and a ten man star was built. We broke into two 5 man stars, rotated and were to fly back together but we ran out of time. Lew and I found ourselves very close just after opening with very compatible descent rates. Lew was slightly lower and just kinda sidled over and I reached down, grabbed his top skin and hooked my feet into his center lines. Lew was jumping that ratty old rainbow patterned Cloud and I was under a Strato-Star. I had lost a Huarachi sandal on opening which he noticed as he docked. "Hey! You've only got one shoe. This is my first hook-up!" I replied "Me too" practically thru tears because I had been trying for months to hook up with my DZ partner, Robert Kempf, but all we had been able to do was wrap ourselves and get rope burnt hands and legs. Here Lew and I had done it without even thinking about it. Lew went on to become very enthusiastic about CRW and as seen here participated in some pretty amazing jumps. All I could do was watch those guys with my jaw agape. WoW! jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itllclear 1 #23 March 15, 2008 Quote #1 Who: Diane Rolland, Tim Long, Rich Brooks, Bill Delli, Mark Seckler. Where: Perris Valley When: Late 70's Who's that guy in red @ 12:00?"Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,064 #24 March 15, 2008 Hi Strato, Well done on the first baton pass; but it was actually at Abbotsford, BC. And the occasion was the US Nationals that were held outside of the US that year. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #25 March 15, 2008 >>Well done on the first baton pass; but it was actually at Abbotsford, BC.And the reason, I've always heard, was at the time most U.S. DZs still enforced the rule of one jumper per pass only. But that simple baton pass was the very beginning of the RW revolution. And in a way we still haven't got it right. We have to over-protect and reign in our students, as that's where our future is. And we have to let our experienced jumpers go, as that's where our progress is . . . NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
