My apologies !

[islandboyflyrz 0]

I want to apologize to Fred & The instructors of skydive miami for how i came to express myself on this subject matter . I tend to let my anger get the best of me and i apologize for the disrespect . I should have been more respectful and adult about the situation , but i wont apologize for what i wrote , i'm not the only person to feel like that . I get treated poorly by the young staff and i feel that Skydive miami should cater better to the fun jumpers . If they did we wouldnt go to other dropzones . I'm sorry with the mykel_jones post skydive miami does not suck there actually the safest dropzone i've ever jumped and for everybody at dropzone.com i apologize for my actions . I'm taking full responsibility , i'm sorry to all the people i lied to , i hope every one can forgive me . take care and blue skies !!!!!!!

[bigway 4]

Good luck man, I feel for you, i hope this is the one and only time you have pissed them off and hope they ar as forgiving as you need.

Man, in life, if you have a problem, go to the owner sit in the office with them and tell them. Owners may look like they dont give a shit cause they are distracted by keeping tons of lives safe but they will take on board what you say and bring it up to other staff when thye can have the chance. You may not see them bring it up to the other staff but they will as owners of anything will always address a complaint even if you do not see them paying attention to it.

You are going to feel stupid going back to this DZ, suck it up, then give it time and know the owners appreciate you being there and let them know you appreciate them giving their lives to making it possible for you to jump.

Dropzones do tandems so they can make a living and at the same time keep a plane in the air for the sporties. It is not a get rich quick scheme by any means.

Good luck mate, i know nothing of dropzones in the states but i respect that you cam back, apologised and did the right thing.

In my eyes you have learnt a lesson, now dont forget it or your apology would mean shit.

Blue Skies.

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[Skymonkey13 0]

Now when you made your first post under the false name of Mykel jones, this was what you listed in your profile.

Real Name: Mykel Jones
Nick Name: Cyko
Location: North America/Bahamas
City: South Beach
Occupation: Porn Star
Email: No email entered.
Jump Profile
Home DZ: Pahokee
License: D 43564
Number of Jumps: 4000
Years in Sport 4


Stateing that you have 4,000 jumps in 4 years, and are a porn star, then posting later that your rich and own a porn empire (not to mention that the U.S.P.A. D License number is no where near as high as the number you listed) just shows me how grandious you are about yourself.

So this makes me wonder if your sorry for what you did, or just sorry you got caught

[bigway 4]

Aren/t most people only ever sorry if they get caught?

It is very rare to be truly sorry towards anything unless you have been caught. Of course unless it was a very deep mistake that you make but do not need others to tell you about it for you to feel the emotion of dissapointment or sadness in yourself to feel sorry on ones own.

Sorry for that added comment.

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[McDuck 0]

Give the guy a break. I mean, he didn't slink away from all of this. He came back to admit he was wrong. He probably doesn't need the jackals to tear him to pieces over it after the fact.

Deed done, apology rendered...can everyone involved, or heckling from the peanut gallery, let this go now? It's okay to apply the Golden Rule here.

Kevin - Sonic Beef #5 - OrFun #28
"I never take myself too seriously, 'cuz everybody know fat birds don't fly." - FLC
Online communities: proof that people never mature much past high school.

[bigway 4]

Dude,
I was saying good on him!!


My second post was just a laugh. trying to lighten it up.

I realise, i am not very good at humor though.

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[skymama 35]

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Deed done, apology rendered...can everyone involved, or heckling from the peanut gallery, let this go now? It's okay to apply the Golden Rule here.

I agree. What's the old saying, "judge not, lest ye be judged"? He made a bad judgment call, for sure, but now he's owning up to it. So many people in this world don't have the guts to do that!

Islandboy, I hope you can mend the hurt feelings you caused by your accusations and that all parties can move on. I'm going to trash the other two threads.

She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

[popsjumper 2]

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...I'm going to trash the other two threads.

You really love doing that don't you?


I'm with the majority on this...screwed up and owned up = Good.

Kinda like farting on the plane...own up = OK...well, in some cases anyway...

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[nperez1999 0]

Island boy!
Welcome back! I'm very proud of you. Like I told you yesterday, I did something like that in the past...twice!, so I really understand how you feel.
I will see you on Saturday, we have to work on those headdown docks.....you have 4,000 jumps and still can't dock
Love,
Nelson

[skymama 35]

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I did something like that in the past...twice!,

Hopefully he'll learn from his mistake the first time.

She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

[nperez1999 0]

We start life thinking that we are
we make mistakes playing
sometimes we get in trouble and pay the price
and we even get mad at everyone around
once we realized that we all suck ---:
we feel
and after all that....we learn to
We all have a little Cypress stuck in our life, which give us always a second chance.
Thanks God for let us fly and for let us share with our friends, your backyard space.

Nelson

[skymama 35]

That's the best use of the smileys that I've ever seen!

She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

[CSpenceFLY 1]

Damn I'm glad avitars are small.


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[nperez1999 0]

Thanks Skymama!
Is just amazing all the things we can do with some little creativity.
I'm glad we have Dropzone to share our thoughts, good and bads!!
Nelson
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[Hawkins121 0]

You make me laugh dude.. I saw in the other thread where you posted that you couldnt believe that they thought it was you and how you wouldnt do anything like this to your brothers and sisters at skydive miami... Taking full responsibility doesnt make up for trying to send business away from your home dz... Are they really going to let you jump there again?

You are my hero....

[nperez1999 0]

Hawkins,
One day, hopefully never, you will be asking someone to forgive you for some stupid mistake and I hope they will give you a second chance.
Managment told me this morning that he is more than welcome to come back.
Nelson

[islandboyflyrz 0]

I really do love skydive miami & Fred but time has come for me to go somewhere else 4 awhile . If you ask nelson he'll tell you i'm no a trouble maker , i'm no a saint neither but i dont like 2 start things . i will defend myself when pushed too far . its just when i'm provoked or taking shit for too long its starts to build up and i release it the wrong way . I dont reget what i said but i do regret how i said it and for that Fred i apologize , i should have been more respectful and professional . I hope you guys have success and i'll see you guys later !

[islandboyflyrz 0]

nelson you know ive impressed you on every skydive we've done 2gether , how about the mindmelts i did on libby , what about the screamin eagles you and me did togther ! i got my free fly skills from you brother and with little number of jumps thanks to u . u are the man ! i'ma miss you brother i'll call you when i go to titusville so we can jump together . Blue skies nelson !!!!!

[nperez1999 0]

Islandboyflyrz,
I was actually telling someone on Saturday how good you are in the skies and how fast you learned to freefly. It has nothing to do with me, you are a good freeflier who has no fear to learn and try new movements.
Just remember, take your time to learn, to practice and to listen to experience jumpers. There is a reason why we've been trying to slow you down on your canopy progression. Is not because USPA said so, is because it hurts so much to see a friend crying their ass when something goes wrong on landing.
We have limits like the one I have doing good landings and that is why I don't swoop anymore, because I'm not good at it. I want to be here, jumping until I'm 100 y/o....so I can jump with friends like you.
See you soon brother,
Nelson

[vx99 0]

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I want to apologize to Fred & The instructors of skydive miami for how i came to express myself on this subject matter . I tend to let my anger get the best of me and i apologize for the disrespect . I should have been more respectful and adult about the situation , but i wont apologize for what i wrote , i'm not the only person to feel like that . I get treated poorly by the young staff and i feel that Skydive miami should cater better to the fun jumpers . If they did we wouldnt go to other dropzones . I'm sorry with the mykel_jones post skydive miami does not suck there actually the safest dropzone i've ever jumped and for everybody at dropzone.com i apologize for my actions . I'm taking full responsibility , i'm sorry to all the people i lied to , i hope every one can forgive me . take care and blue skies !!!!!!!

That's an apology?

Let me explain a few things to you.

It's not what you posted dude, we can handle that, no sweat. It's the fact that you were not man enough to do it under your own name or face to face. ( obviously you prefer assumed identities and text messages) You got called on it, denied it and even wished us good luck in findng the guy that did it. Guess what, you got your wish.

Andrew even called you, on the phone, you denied it again.

Your only sorry of one thing, you got busted, period.

Then a couple of post later you tell us how great of a freeflyer you are? So what? I don't know how good you are, I don't freefly. You could be Omar A. for all I care, skydiving skills (or lack there of, no difference) don't make up for charracter and honesty and maturity. All of which you have proven to lack plenty.

You had many chances to come clean, you chose not to. Instead you chose to lie some more until it became clear, to you, that it was hopeless..

You have insulted my employer, my friends, co-workers and girlfriend. Called them pussies, fags and so on, on a public forum no less. Ever heard of the word slander?

You didn't have enough spine to own those remarks, you had to use an imaginary friend, in cyber space to do it. That my friend ( figure of speech) is why people are disapointed in you, it has nothing to do with WHAT you posted.

It's hard no convey tone on an internet forum but believe me, none of the above is said in anger or rage. It it said with a very calm and even voice. You have heard that voice many times. It's just the way I see it.

Maybe one day you'll grow up and realize that money can't buy you respect, character and experience. You can buy lots of things, you've told us many, many times but some of the most important things in life, you have to earn the hard way. Yourself.

You ask for forgiveness, those kind of thing (in my book at least) are not for the asking, they are earned. So far you have earned squat, that's way I see it.

As far as I'm concerned, feel free to come back at the DZ. You won't get any grief from me, you won't get anything from me. I am not angry at you, I won't badmouth you to others either.

Everybody that knows me, knows, that I give the benefit of the doubt to all. You have removed all doubt as to the kind of person you are. It's a steep climb from where you are, just to be clear.

Hope you'll learn something from all of this. I shall wait and see. Your later posts in this thread are not very inspirering that you have.

Glenn

All of the above is my take on it, NOBODY ELSE. Not the DZ's or any other source. Those comments are mine, period.

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More rules is NEVER the right the answer.....

[Skymonkey13 0]

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Give the guy a break. I mean, he didn't slink away from all of this..

He did slink away from all of this.

He came on under a false name to talk trash about a DZ, a manager, packers, and others.
Then he came back under his real name to deny that it was him, and to express how dumbfounded he was for someone to think, or accuse him as being the one doing it.

He not only made a new identity for his first rant, but also made himself out to be a rich porno stud skygod to boot.

I could see your point if he had done this, and then realized how stupid and unfair it was and came back, admitted it was him, and oppoligized.

But he never admitted it untill he was certain that it was proved that it was really him that posted it.
And even then i'm not sure how much of what he posted would even be considered a appoligy.

Honesty is not something to be taken lightly, it's what determines how people think of you and what you say forever.

[McDuck 0]

It feels good to be so self-righteous, doesn't it? Good on ya.

Kevin - Sonic Beef #5 - OrFun #28
"I never take myself too seriously, 'cuz everybody know fat birds don't fly." - FLC
Online communities: proof that people never mature much past high school.

[bigway 4]

I think it is shit what this guy has done. If he did it under his username, fine, but to hide behind another name and trash the business that helps you continue your sport is wrong.

This guy deserved to be outed, however your statement here is very concerning to how he was outed....

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Honesty is not something to be taken lightly, it's what determines how people think of you and what you say forever.

So this guy was found out by his I.P. address so VX says but the problem there is this statement by Dropzone.com

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http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/safety/detail_page.cgi?ID=599

If there is a privacy policy for these forums how is that his I.P. address was told to another user?
Or was it just a bluff

Honesty works both ways. I think if Dropzone.com has just breached their Privacy statement they should trash both threads that are about this subject. As it is not good for their privacy policy and on the other hand is that not a law suit waiting to happen?
I trust these forums not to give my information out to third parties without contacting me but this seems to be the case here.

Please tell us you did not give his information to another user Mods as this is just is more serious than what this other fool has done.

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[skymama 35]

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Please tell us you did not give his information to another user Mods as this is just is more serious than what this other fool has done.

I get asked for IP addresses all the time. I refuse the request every time. Sangiro would have my head on a chopping block if I gave out that information. We take the privacy policy seriously.

By the way, both threads were trashed yesterday when he outed himself.

She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

[bigway 4]

It is good to hear that.

My partner who is a web developer said to me that you could not find out other users ip's on this website, that is why i asked.

Guees it was a bluff then.

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