itllclear 1 #51 April 28, 2004 Hey everyone- Remember -- You ARE allowed to tip your pick up truck driver. We used to have a tip box for Bad Spot Bill on the fence, until someone stole it. Let Tim know you appreciate him. He's one of the best reason's to jump at Perris. Blue Skies! Harry"Harry, why did you land all the way out there? Nobody else landed out there." "Your statement answered your question." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #52 April 28, 2004 Adding a tip box for Tim would be an awesome idea! He's so nice... always helps the students figure out how to pick up those huge canopies without getting them hopelessly tangled. He must've showed me five times before I finally mastered it! Tim's awesome! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #53 April 28, 2004 QuoteMight be a good idea to let the new jumpers know about the pick up person on the landing area. It's covered in the briefing all new jumpers get when they arrive at Perris, along with the hand/arm signals to announce someone hurt, someone who needs pick up, ect.....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #54 April 28, 2004 QuoteYou dropped your tray and just flew out the door! Stopped in the middle of ordering and didn't have a tray yet. QuoteWe all thought you had a nasty case of the runs and were off to the Men's room!! That has happend in the past! QuoteSit back, have beer and don't be in such a hurry to fight other people's battles. Tim's battles are mine. He is a friend, neighbor and an all around good guy. He would put his life on the line for me and I would do the same for me. When you need him he is there. When he needs me I will be there. Plus I don't drink that much anymore. If I had been drinking the cooler heads woud not have one out. I would have been out there ranting and raving and swinging from the word go.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #55 April 28, 2004 Good idea Harry! You guys know what makes Tim really happy? Beer! He is as happy as a pig in s--t at the end of the day when he goes to the bar and there are beeerrs on his tab. He wouldn't mind the tips I am sure, but he woudl love the beer. He gets really bummed when he has a week like he did two weeks ago. 14 cutaways in 3 days (it seemed like everytime we looked up there was another) He chased down everyone of them except 2 ( I got those since they where people I was jumping with), and only two people thanked him and bought him a beer. I mean this guy even found cutaway and reserve handles! It isn't a part of his job. All they ask him to do is pick people up. He takes on a lot more just because he likes the sport and cares for the safety of us all.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #56 April 28, 2004 Can we just put beer/cash on his tab at the bar? I don't usually stay late to hang out, so I usually don't get the chance to buy anyone beer, as much as I'd like to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #57 April 28, 2004 QuoteQuoteWe all thought you had a nasty case of the runs and were off to the Men's room!! That has happend in the past! DOM, TMI!!!!! LMAO... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #58 April 28, 2004 All ya have to do is tell the girls at the bar I wanna buy Tim a beer or two. They will take care of it. Let him know that you bought them and he will drink them!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #59 April 28, 2004 QuoteDOM, TMI!!!!! LMAO... I'll do anything to make you laugh Rosa! Doesn't laughter lead to sex?Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #60 April 28, 2004 QuoteQuoteDOM, TMI!!!!! LMAO... I'll do anything to make you laugh Rosa! Doesn't laughter lead to sex? What? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,334 #61 April 28, 2004 QuoteDoesn't laughter lead to sex? I think they were saying that sex leads to laughter Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #62 April 28, 2004 Who have you been talking to. It's only a rumor that they laugh at me after sex!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #63 April 28, 2004 QuoteWho have you been talking to. It's only a rumor that they laugh at me after sex! Thats's right...I heard it was during...oh yeah, baby, oh yeah, bab...wahahaha...ooo...hahaha...ah...bwahahahahaaaa...ohhhhhhhahaha... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #64 April 28, 2004 Rosa, that was a one time thing I swear. It was really cold that night and I was really drunk and............ Guess I'll just have to show ya!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justdumi 0 #65 April 28, 2004 Ok trying to rescue Rosa and deviating back to the original issue at hand In response to QuoteI would hope that this was an isolated case and that it is not standard practice for vehicles to be driving through the landing area when there are canopies in the air. AND It's covered in the briefing all new jumpers get when they arrive at Perris, along with the hand/arm signals to announce someone hurt, someone who needs pick up, ect..... Is this really the case then?? Looks like the process was ommitted. To be fair in sure the work that Tim does is awesome and well appreciated..BUT without warning any unwitting person could actually be put off by seeing a car driving around the landing areas...and believe me..that is a potential serious incident waiting to take place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #66 April 28, 2004 QuoteIs this really the case then?? Looks like the process was ommitted. Are you speaking about your personal situation?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justdumi 0 #67 April 28, 2004 about the case under discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #68 April 28, 2004 I'd suggest (only because I know how thourogh the DZ is about waivers, video waivers, gear checks, and airport briefings that it was done. Perris has a checklist for that sort of thing. You don't jump till you've had everything signed off....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #69 April 28, 2004 QuoteIt's covered in the briefing all new jumpers get when they arrive at Perris, along with the hand/arm signals to announce someone hurt, someone who needs pick up, ect..... Is this really the case then?? Looks like the process was ommitted. To be fair in sure the work that Tim does is awesome and well appreciated..BUT without warning any unwitting person could actually be put off by seeing a car driving around the landing areas...and believe me..that is a potential serious incident waiting to take place. It is a part of every briefing at Perris. I am sure there have been and will be times when it is overlooked. Maybe that happend this time, maybe it didn't. They also brief people on landing directions and people don't listen to that either. Also you relly have to have not been paying attention to what was going on around the Dz that weekend to not have just seen the truck all day long. In fact that weekend there where two trucks running around the landing are. The swoop competion was going on and the trucks where also bringing people back and forth formthe swoop pond. I know they briefed people about that. I think all that happend here was a 1st time visit to a new Dz and a really big one at that! A lot of folks get sensory overload at Perris and just can't remember all the stuff they have been told. There is so much going on here all the time. This weekend alone, there was the Swoop Comp. A 5 day 4-way camp with tons of people in it, a coaches course, and a big way Freefly camp. Over 100 loads a day for 2 or 3 days. Let;s just say that there where only 20 people on each load. That is over 2000 skydives a day. It would be very easy for a low time jumper to get overwhelmed and forget what they have been told. One of the biggest problems at Perris is people crossing the runway without looking for planes. They tell you right from the start to look before crossing the runway, if you see a plane on final or base to final to stay on the landing area until the plane has landed and is in the loading area. Do you know how many times a day they have to hit the siren to get people to NOT cross the runway because the plane is coming? To many. I have been guilty of it myself and I jump there all the time. For those of you that do come to our playground. Just know the truck is there and he saw you before you even thought about seeing him. The only people he hits are guys on motorcycles on the runway racing planes. Plus, there are dirt roads all over the landing area and he usually only drives on those, unless it is an emergency.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justdumi 0 #70 April 28, 2004 Mmm so admittedly this is a rather strange case. I wonder if the original poster would care to comment on this and shed some light as there are only two answers to this 1) The original poster got briefed and forgot...and is still unable to recall that she got the brief...hence the post. OR 2) It didnt take place. Any other options? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justdumi 0 #71 April 28, 2004 *** For those of you that do come to our playground. Just know the truck is there and he saw you before you even thought about seeing him. The only people he hits are guys on motorcycles on the runway racing planes. Plus, there are dirt roads all over the landing area and he usually only drives on those, unless it is an emergency. I hear you man but that isnt necessarily something easy to put into a plan..think of the questions that can go through your mind.... "ok there is the truck...he sees me...but..wait...where is it going?...am i dodging him?...or will he dodge me?...i'll land there then...oh no..he is also going there!"..PANIC PANIC PANIC...hook! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #72 April 28, 2004 I get your point totally. Remember that Tim knows that the canopies have the right of way. In fact if you tried to run into him you couldn't. Plus, if you can't figure out which way a vehicle is moving you have a problem. It's pretty obvious when it is moving by the dust trail it leaves behind it as it drives along the road that it is on. This shoud not be an issue for people at all. Trucks have been driving out to pick people up for years out at Perris. This is why Diablopilot came off like he did when this post first came up. Now people are all worried (for no reason) about the truck in the landing area. I will stick to my comment of "worried for no reason" Because it is not an issue. The truck is not a saftey hazzard and if Murphyka had gotten hurt (and I am very glad she didn't) it would have been because she freaked out. We put students out all day everyday at Perris and I have never heard of any of them complain about the truck. In fact Tim gets more thanks and compliments from vistiors then just aout anybody on the DZ.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #73 April 28, 2004 Yup! When I've just had one of my usual feet-knees-face landings, Tim's truck is about the nicest thing ever! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #74 April 28, 2004 QuoteTo be fair in sure the work that Tim does is awesome and well appreciated..BUT without warning any unwitting person could actually be put off by seeing a car driving around the landing areas...and believe me..that is a potential serious incident waiting to take place. There has been a truck driving around the landing area for over 20 years. An not one jumper has been run over. This includes night jumps. So you believe me... this is not a serious incident waiting to take place. All things can be done and done safely with just a little planing. Sparky And Dom., thanks for the backup.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyyhi 0 #75 April 28, 2004 Quote1) The original poster got briefed and forgot...and is still unable to recall that she got the brief...hence the post. FWIW, I do not believe she ever said she wasn't briefed. All she said is that it startled her to see the truck in her landing pattern.________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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