freeflyimpaired 0 #126 April 12, 2005 Let me get this straight. You were impatient and you told him he sucked, and you think he was unprofessional. Thats funny. "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
binkster 2 #127 April 12, 2005 not true. I was approved and then Justin the marketing director called me at 6 in the morning to yell at me so I told him off and hung up and here we are now. He didnt like the overtone of my emails after i was approved. Istill have the emails of approval if anyone wants to see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #128 April 12, 2005 QuoteI told him he was very unprofessional and was gonna put this on dropzone and he laughed so here it is. And after doing so, who do you think came out looking more foolish? I don't think you've made even a tiny dent in his reputation but rather the opposite. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
binkster 2 #129 April 12, 2005 i wasnt that impatient. I wasnt dealin with him till he called me at 6 in the morning to talk. I was approved and he didnt like my attitude he said so I told him he was wrong and here we are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #130 April 12, 2005 QuoteThen justin got mad cause i was a little impatient and denied me. I told him he sucked. He we are. Who cares. I told him he was very unprofessional and was gonna put this on dropzone and he laughed so here it is. That's the funniest thing I have read in quite a while. Sounds to me like you didn't get your way, so now you're going to get even! Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
binkster 2 #131 April 12, 2005 i never was trying to ruin his reputation just dont think he was the slightest bit professional and should reexamine his tactics when dealing with a customer. He was beyond rude calling me dude and bing completely disrespectful. Since he works at PD you would think they might want to know about his actions towards a potential customer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #132 April 12, 2005 Quote Then justin got mad cause i was a little impatient and denied me. I told him he sucked. He we are. Who cares. I told him he was very unprofessional and was gonna put this on dropzone and he laughed so here it is. He kept telling me of his untarnished reputation. I find it funny that you bitch about someone being unprofessional after you told them they suck. Grow up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
binkster 2 #133 April 12, 2005 no reason to get even just thought that maybe he could be alot more professional towards a potoential customer and maybe he will now towards someone else and they wont have to get woken up at 6 to be yelled at for tryin to speed up a slow process. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
binkster 2 #134 April 12, 2005 okay your so right I forgot you know it all Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #135 April 12, 2005 Quoteokay your so right I forgot you know it all I thank you for posting this thread. Everytime I come across someone with your attitude, it gives me a new appreciation for what people in the customer service field have to put up with on a daily basis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
binkster 2 #136 April 12, 2005 what are you talkin about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #137 April 12, 2005 Quotewhat are you talkin about? I think what Justin is trying to say is that you come off as a selfcentered egotistical person that has no patience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyimpaired 0 #138 April 12, 2005 QuoteSince he works at PD you would think they might want to know about his actions towards a potential customer. I'm not trying to pick a fight here, but I don't think that you've handled the situation correctly if you wanted PD to take your complaint seriously. Bashing the entire company online makes you look upset and vengfull rather than a potential customer. "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
binkster 2 #139 April 12, 2005 I knew there were more people with probs with him. It's not just me than. Ive had several people email me with complaints about his practices. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #140 April 12, 2005 QuoteI guess Jonathan Tagle won the world cup of canopy piloting after 4 years of skyidiving by not downsizing and pushing the envelope. He does a ridiculous amount of jumps per year. This is a small sport, I doubt Jonathan T tried pissing all over a manufacturers shoes publicly like you have (for no apparent good reason). If you think other manufacturers don't read this board and disapprove of your approach I suspect you're wrong. If you want to be like "the pros" try acting like them. Stomping your feet hasn't gotten you anywhere, in fact I suspect you've done nothing but set yourself back. If you truely had a grievance that was valid, you certainly didn't try and resolve it with the manufacturer first. What makes you think anyone else would want to touch you with a 10 ft pole? Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
binkster 2 #141 April 12, 2005 whether that is true or not should not be basis for denying a customer a product. It wasnt experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #142 April 12, 2005 Quotewhether that is true or not should not be basis for denying a customer a product. It wasnt experience. True but that approach doesn't go very far. The people on the other end of the phone or email don't generally respond very well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
binkster 2 #143 April 12, 2005 im not bashing the company. I did call them the corporate conglomerate. I do know alot of people who dont like the big corporate conglomerate and who agree with me its like nike or starbucks. That was my point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #144 April 12, 2005 QuoteI knew there were more people with probs with him. It's not just me than. Ive had several people email me with complaints about his practices. You mis-understood - I love Justin, I think he is great! He has always been very helpful and informative. He even convenience me to buy, and that was not easy. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
binkster 2 #145 April 12, 2005 i agree the issue is i was approved and he called me at 6 in the mornig after approval to say im not now and was a total jerk to me so i hung up and here we are Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #146 April 12, 2005 Quoteim not bashing the company. Did you read the title of the thread when you wrote it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #147 April 12, 2005 QuoteI did call them the corporate conglomerate. I do know alot of people who dont like the big corporate conglomerate and who agree with me its like nike or starbucks Those people are called hippies!!! A recent southpark episode comes to mind. So do you drive a big car made by a big corporate conglomerate? JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #148 April 12, 2005 Quotei agree the issue is i was approved and he called me at 6 in the mornig If it is 6 in the morning where you are, what time is it in FL? Quote after approval to say im not now and was a total jerk to me so i hung up and here we are You can stop with the insults (jerk, etc..). It's not helping your argument. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #149 April 12, 2005 Quotei agree the issue is i was approved and he called me at 6 in the mornig after approval to say im not now and was a total jerk to me so i hung up and here we are Yeah I understand that part, but his call seems to be prompted by your impatience and probably by the tone of your previous emails or phone calls. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
binkster 2 #150 April 12, 2005 obviously you dont know. I have several other companies that are on my side. They agree with me. People seem to think they know whats best for someone else. Do you think that with this that Justin might just in the slightest bit handle the next guy like me alittle more respectfully just to avoid this stuff? If he does than my job is complete. Until than??????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites