ntrprnr 0 #1 September 19, 2005 Sorry - That should say "SAFIRE 2 229" Final decision in the "great rig buying quandry." Demo'd the Safire and really, really liked it. But also really liked the Sabre 2 that I'd been jumping prior. I've bought the rig, it'll be here soon... Got everything but the main. Kind of need the main. It's important, you know? Figure I'll get better on landings the next six months, then downsize. No harm in not downsizing right away, right? I'm also a heavy guy - around 235 out the door. So that said... Which one?_______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #2 September 19, 2005 Which did you like better? Which can you get faster? If it matters to you, which costs less? Your answers to those questions should answer your question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntrprnr 0 #3 September 19, 2005 QuoteWhich did you like better? Which can you get faster? If it matters to you, which costs less? Your answers to those questions should answer your question. Agree completely, Lisa. Just more curiosity than anything else - just wanted to see what other who are flying one or the other thought. :)_______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nessvegas 0 #4 September 19, 2005 Don't mean to add another thought, but have you jumped the Spectre 230? Just got my first rig and have jumped it four times....openings are a dream and Slooooooow. _________________________________________ I married the right one......it just took me 2 times! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #5 September 19, 2005 Safire I or II? If 1, note its sizing probably isn't comprable to the Sabre but 7% smaller than ticket... I'd take a Sabre II over a Safire I. If 2, search the forums. You will find several thousand (I really am not kidding) posts about Safire II vs. Sabre II... I'd take a Safire II over a Sabre II. Just my opinions, no one elses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #6 September 19, 2005 QuoteDon't mean to add another thought, but have you jumped the Spectre 230? Just got my first rig and have jumped it four times....openings are a dream and Slooooooow. I've heard a lot of great things about the Safire2, though I've never jumped one. I have jumped a Sabre2 and was not impressed. As I own a Pilot, I think you ought to give one of them a try, they're in the same class as the Sabres & Safires. Spectres are really great too, but they're a 7 cell with a steeper glide. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 561 #7 September 19, 2005 QuoteSafire I or II? If 1, note its sizing probably isn't comparable to the Sabre but 7% smaller than ticket... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In 2001 Icarus converted to the measuring method used by Performance Designs. Safire 2 was introduced after 2001. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymiles 3 #8 September 19, 2005 Sabre2 by PD – best customer service in the industry. Safire2 by Icarus – worst in customer service. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #9 September 19, 2005 QuoteSorry - That should say "SAFIRE 2 229" Final decision in the "great rig buying quandry." Demo'd the Safire and really, really liked it. But also really liked the Sabre 2 that I'd been jumping prior. I've bought the rig, it'll be here soon... Got everything but the main. Kind of need the main. It's important, you know? Figure I'll get better on landings the next six months, then downsize. No harm in not downsizing right away, right? I'm also a heavy guy - around 235 out the door. So that said... Which one? Thought about a Silhouette 230? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nate_1979 9 #10 September 19, 2005 Love my Safire 2 FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites redramdriver 0 #11 September 19, 2005 I have a Safire 2 229. Great Canopy. Can't say about the Sabre 2 cause I have never jumped one. Although, I did have a Spectre 230 and enjoyed it as well. As far as customer service....SUCKS. Don't waste your time or your coin in calling and talking with anyone because they forget about you as soon as you hang up. But, as said, great canopy.So, you bring your beer? Its 5 o'clock somewhere POPS #9344 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #12 September 20, 2005 That's what I said. "If 1" as in 'If a Safire 1'... then it's 7% smaller. "If 2" as in 'If a Safire 2' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites evilivan 0 #13 September 20, 2005 I've jumped both canopies of a similar size (smaller then your choices; 129/135) and they are both great performers. I currently jump Icarus canopies (a Xfire2 and an FX), but I am now moving to PD because of the customer service and general response and turnaround I have experienced with Icarus. If the canopy choice itself is a close-cut thing for you, I strongly recommend you consider customer service in your deliberations. Ivan Edited to add: Icarus had my Xfire for 9 months after I sent it back for a reline and test jumps (it was turning left); when I finally got hold of them, it had been in the back of the test jumpers car...."If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
skymiles 3 #8 September 19, 2005 Sabre2 by PD – best customer service in the industry. Safire2 by Icarus – worst in customer service. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #9 September 19, 2005 QuoteSorry - That should say "SAFIRE 2 229" Final decision in the "great rig buying quandry." Demo'd the Safire and really, really liked it. But also really liked the Sabre 2 that I'd been jumping prior. I've bought the rig, it'll be here soon... Got everything but the main. Kind of need the main. It's important, you know? Figure I'll get better on landings the next six months, then downsize. No harm in not downsizing right away, right? I'm also a heavy guy - around 235 out the door. So that said... Which one? Thought about a Silhouette 230? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nate_1979 9 #10 September 19, 2005 Love my Safire 2 FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites redramdriver 0 #11 September 19, 2005 I have a Safire 2 229. Great Canopy. Can't say about the Sabre 2 cause I have never jumped one. Although, I did have a Spectre 230 and enjoyed it as well. As far as customer service....SUCKS. Don't waste your time or your coin in calling and talking with anyone because they forget about you as soon as you hang up. But, as said, great canopy.So, you bring your beer? Its 5 o'clock somewhere POPS #9344 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #12 September 20, 2005 That's what I said. "If 1" as in 'If a Safire 1'... then it's 7% smaller. "If 2" as in 'If a Safire 2' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites evilivan 0 #13 September 20, 2005 I've jumped both canopies of a similar size (smaller then your choices; 129/135) and they are both great performers. I currently jump Icarus canopies (a Xfire2 and an FX), but I am now moving to PD because of the customer service and general response and turnaround I have experienced with Icarus. If the canopy choice itself is a close-cut thing for you, I strongly recommend you consider customer service in your deliberations. Ivan Edited to add: Icarus had my Xfire for 9 months after I sent it back for a reline and test jumps (it was turning left); when I finally got hold of them, it had been in the back of the test jumpers car...."If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
nate_1979 9 #10 September 19, 2005 Love my Safire 2 FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redramdriver 0 #11 September 19, 2005 I have a Safire 2 229. Great Canopy. Can't say about the Sabre 2 cause I have never jumped one. Although, I did have a Spectre 230 and enjoyed it as well. As far as customer service....SUCKS. Don't waste your time or your coin in calling and talking with anyone because they forget about you as soon as you hang up. But, as said, great canopy.So, you bring your beer? Its 5 o'clock somewhere POPS #9344 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #12 September 20, 2005 That's what I said. "If 1" as in 'If a Safire 1'... then it's 7% smaller. "If 2" as in 'If a Safire 2' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilivan 0 #13 September 20, 2005 I've jumped both canopies of a similar size (smaller then your choices; 129/135) and they are both great performers. I currently jump Icarus canopies (a Xfire2 and an FX), but I am now moving to PD because of the customer service and general response and turnaround I have experienced with Icarus. If the canopy choice itself is a close-cut thing for you, I strongly recommend you consider customer service in your deliberations. Ivan Edited to add: Icarus had my Xfire for 9 months after I sent it back for a reline and test jumps (it was turning left); when I finally got hold of them, it had been in the back of the test jumpers car...."If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation." David Brent Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites