FFAddict 0 #1 April 11, 2005 Does anybody know what is happening with the BPA IC1 system? I could be wrong but i have heard it is changing to a CH1 and JM1 system. If i am right what will the CH1 and JM1 systems incorporate, if not what is it changing to? And for anyone really in the know, why the change? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #2 April 11, 2005 Yes it's changing. Not 100% sure exactly what yet though personally. All I've know is that basically JM1 will be essentially all the briefs etc associated with the old IC1 system. CH1 should be obtained at the same time as your A license (I think) and includes basic canopy skills. CH2, IIRC, includes extra canopy skills replacing IC1 and above - ie it requires more skills to acquire than the purely accuracy requirements of IC1. Above those you have CP1 and 2, which are prerequisites to performing any kind of speed inducing maneuver prior to landing and entry to swoop competitions respectively. Why the changes? Cos people keep killing themselves under functioning mains. This new emphasis on canopy coaching and continued development is a welcome change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jas8472 0 #3 April 11, 2005 I think the CH1 will be needed before they give you your A licence and then JM1 before they give you a B licence. I might be wrong but I read this to mean that any body with an A licence already will still use the old system. Untill you want to learn to swoop at least then your meant to get CH2. JUST SPECULATION AT THIS POINT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #4 April 11, 2005 QuoteI think the CH1 will be needed before they give you your A licence and then JM1 before they give you a B licence. I might be wrong but I read this to mean that any body with an A licence already will still use the old system. Untill you want to learn to swoop at least then your meant to get CH2. JM1 and CH2 will be needed for B-licence. CP-1 (Canopy Piloting) and 200 jumps will be needed before doing any speed inducing landing manouvres. CP-2 will be needed before competing in swoop comps. What I don't know is when IC1 will be replaced, or has it already hapened?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFAddict 0 #5 April 11, 2005 i think it is still in the draft stage. If i am right the final draft is being shown at the next BPA AGM for final approval Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #6 April 11, 2005 That's not what I've been led to believe. I was under the impression that this was to be effective from the begining of this financial year... although I've yet to go to the DZ so can't confirm this. I certainly hope we don't have to wait another year before this comes in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dazzle 0 #7 April 11, 2005 nigelh (aka Nigel Holland) who is on council was saying elsewhere today that the next council meeting will be approving it and it should go into action after that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skykittykat 0 #8 April 12, 2005 The new proposed rules are a good thing and they should be passed. I have noticed that recently there have been a few proposals that are trying to bring UK skydiving into this new century... Liz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jas8472 0 #9 April 12, 2005 QuoteQuoteI think the CH1 will be needed before they give you your A licence and then JM1 before they give you a B licence. I might be wrong but I read this to mean that any body with an A licence already will still use the old system. Untill you want to learn to swoop at least then your meant to get CH2. JM1 and CH2 will be needed for B-licence. CP-1 (Canopy Piloting) and 200 jumps will be needed before doing any speed inducing landing manouvres. CP-2 will be needed before competing in swoop comps. What I don't know is when IC1 will be replaced, or has it already hapened? SORRY MY BAD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dazzle 0 #10 April 12, 2005 Quotetrying to bring UK skydiving into this new century... Often said but what specific things do you think the UK needs? (not a flame lets get some ideas) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rsibbald 0 #11 April 12, 2005 I try to give my post-Cat8 students a comprehensive safety brief before they go and start finding things out the hard way. I'll be interested to see how much of this is included in the JM1 and CH1&2 qualifications. Points I cover include, advanced canopy control, gear selection, maintenance, transportation, dealing with people in the sport, where to go for information, visiting other DZs and how to keep learning in the sport as a whole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rsibbald 0 #12 April 12, 2005 How about some consistency regarding wingsuit rules? I hate turning up at a new DZ to find I'm not allowed to jump my Classic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #13 April 12, 2005 To be fair, the BPA are consistent in what they recomend... its the DZ's that aren't. If DZ's wish to either ignore or better the BPA's recomendation I guess they're only recomendations. On the other hand the BPA can't make DZ's accept a lower requirement if the DZ wants to be more stringent. How about blue skys - we could do with a few more of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamUK 3 #14 April 12, 2005 Wow, Ross, you are still alive!! How was the USA? Are we going to see you at the DZ soon?? Adam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
