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Break off signal?

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well I am a new fish but I was told to check after track when u slow down to pull - if you still have height track again cos you haven't tacked far enough and you need more seperation.

I got caught out with the waive before tracking once though - changing from an open acordian to something else someones hands moved in a wave motion so I took off, counted, slowed down and realised I was still at 6... they kept on going with the planned dive and all thought I was wierd. Live and learn.

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It's a very simple wave off, done with both hands, then you turn and track. This comes from a time before people had audibles and breakoffs were at lower altitudes than nowadays (typically 3500 ft, 4000 ft for bigger 16 Way size stuff, and 4500 for the truly big 30+ size formations).



A wave off, to me means, I'm deploying. If you wave off before tracking, I shit my pants and get the fuck out of dodge because "you're deploying". If I see the soles of someone's feet tracking away from me, I know they are done skydiving and they've signaled their break off.

To me, waving off is a waste of altitude. You could have used that two or three extra seconds tracking (or finishing the point) and we would have gotten more separation. The soles of your feet tracking away makes it very clear that you're done with the jump.

I'm also a big fan of not checking your altimeter between tracking, waving off and deploying. Why are you checking your altimeter? Are you checking to see if you were low? If so, wouldn't you have liked that extra three-four seconds (~800 feet) to deploy higher?


I was thinking the same thing...could be confusing to someone.

I use to throw a salute and turn to track...but the military guys keep saluting back, seems rude to show 'em my butt just then. :D

Now I just tap my altimeter and nod. :)










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I cannot believe that with all the macho bravado replies nobody has mentioned the time honored signal that was universally taught back in the old days.



Speaking of universally know signals, what does it mean if you stick your tongue out?

Sparky



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Here is a serious answer without all the bullshit.

I appreciate the humor but there is a procedure on well planned RW.

Here is a video someone took of Skydiving legend Billy Weber some years back.

Billy is a good friend of mine and told me that during every dirt dive, he went over the break-off signal. At the break you can clearly see him in the white jumpsuit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n6gURyYJg0
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That is a good example of the difference between a "shake off" and a "wave off". No confusion there. :)
lisa



Yeah. I also teach new skydivers that there is a subtle distinction between types of waveoffs. All of them mean, pay attention something is happening. Typically speaking though, big two handed waves over the back of your head means I'm about to deploy. Small waves under your face with one or both hands means, it's time for breakoff.

In all seriousness, if I'm able I just leave when it's time. If I am the organizer or if I have people holding on to me, 2 quick waves under me typically gets the point across.
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I cannot believe that with all the macho bravado replies nobody has mentioned the time honored signal that was universally taught back in the old days.



Speaking of universally know signals, what does it mean if you stick your tongue out?

Sparky



Arch, motherfucker! Speed this thing up.



It's from old 10 way days. It means double grip me.

Sparky
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