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Jak3slice

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I experienced a bad line over on my main that quickly started to spin to my left, made a good solid attempt to clear it with rear riser looked at unstowing the toggles but decided to cutaway knowing that hard spinning canopy’s rarely gets better. The spin of the canopy left me in a left hand spin as I re-enterd free fall but arched and stayed belly to earth. Pulled my reserve handle (I also had my rsl hooked up). Immediately after reserve opend I began a very hard turn in the opposite direction, which surprised me because I was anticipating possible line twist due to deploying in a spin. I looked up in amazement as to why I was turning and starting to dive under reserve. There were  tension knots  in my d lines high up towards the canopy. I immediately started countering the spin with rear risers and harness to at least attempt to slow it down and keep it flying the entire back right part of the canopy was very un- inflated looking. I was hesitant at unstowing the toggles as I feared in doing so may very well cause the canopy to get line twist (just my instinct at the time) . I pulled very hard on the rear right riser (and let go quickly) while still staying consistent on the left/ leans in harness. The canopy did not react well to this and the entire right side became very uniflated and collapsed looking.  This made me even more hesitant to unstow the breaks. Tried pulling both rear risers at the same time a couple times with no luck and eventually went inwards with both risers and outwards quick and hard and that’s when I saw the lines spread apart very quickly and the knot dissaper and felt the dive and turn recover. I was at just below 2k by this point ( glad I had pulled a little higher than normal on this particular jump). Unfortunately my go pro was on the quick picture setting and non wide angle lens but have edited the video and it’s gives a pretty clear idea of this situation. 
Gear info infinity northern light 3 model . Main canopy 168 lpv pilot

Reserve canopy 150 tempo repacked ( not from cutaway couple months ago) my rig also had an rsl. Smaller reserve inst ideal but and very confident and consistent with landings / inducing speed on my 168.


My question is has anyone heard/ seen or experienced anything like this? 

can’t figure out how to post pictures or videos on here.

This was my 401st jump with no prior cutaways.

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18 hours ago, Jak3slice said:

 

Tried pulling both rear risers at the same time a couple times with no luck and eventually went inwards with both risers and outwards quick and hard

 

 

Congrats, sounds like you handled it very well.

smart to not unstow toggles.

Also rear riser sharply down, and quick release is good method to try and clear tension knots.

Not exactly sure what you mean above, but bravo!

Don't need to see any videos so don't sweat that.

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2 hours ago, kleggo said:

Congrats, sounds like you handled it very well.

smart to not unstow toggles.

Also rear riser sharply down, and quick release is good method to try and clear tension knots.

Not exactly sure what you mean above, but bravo!

Don't need to see any videos so don't sweat that.

I tried a few times to pull hard on my right rear riser and releasing quickly ( while also using harness pulling on left rear riser evenly to slow down dive/spin) it caused the entire right side of the canopy to nearly collapse. 
I’m not sure if I just had extremely bad luck (ultimately good luck because I walked away). But I don’t recall much training in the sim on hard spinning reserves with tension knots involving multiple d lines. This being my first cutaway and being fully prepared and honestly exited for it only to be thrown in another dangerous malfunction (most likely fatal at the speeds I was descending if not handled quickly) has definitely made me lose a little faith in my gear. Haven’t jumped in over a week after this ( i average 5-10 a week).

For the record I lost my cutaway handle during deployment and quickly let go of my reserve after I realized another mal. 
 

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14 hours ago, Jak3slice said:

I tried a few times to pull hard on my right rear riser and releasing quickly ( while also using harness pulling on left rear riser evenly to slow down dive/spin) it caused the entire right side of the canopy to nearly collapse. 

Most likely you needed the canopy to collapse. This is what allows tension knots to release, removing the tension. Congratulations on not giving up and saving the day.

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8 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Most likely you needed the canopy to collapse. This is what allows tension knots to release, removing the tension. Congratulations on not giving up and saving the day.

For sure but the knots did not come out during these attempts. They came out and is very visible in video ( the lines literally sprung apar) when I brought both risers together and pulled them outwards (apart from one another). The front/ nose was not nearly as collapsed as it was in previous attempts with hard right rear pull and drop.

Im very aware that hard spinning canopy’s rarely get better but in this situation I only had 1 option to think fast and at least avoid it from twisting up. When I fist saw the knots and felt a hard dive and spin  I definitely thought the worst but had to try to recover it and relied on instinct. 
I have done many 270s on fronts under my168 (above 2k for fun and recovery rate data but am not a swooped) and I definitely think this might have helped as inducing dive purposefully definetly helps give awareness on how to reduce them (the best you can in a very rarer situation)

Still honestly isn’t amazement that she opend up and definitely took a deep breath when it was recovered. Saw my main going down but had to figure out flare and enter landing patern as I was just under 2k.

Found it in deep sticker bushes 10ft from the river lol.

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Unfortunately go pro wast only on quick picture setting and non wide angle view but this probably helps.

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Remind your rigger to keep a bit of tension on your reserve lines. A bit of tension will help keep suspension lines neat and reduce the risk of tension knots.

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