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brenthutch

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8 hours ago, brenthutch said:

I would be 100% on board with renewables if they could compete in the market place. But sadly (for you) they cannot.[cry]

Absolute lie, you oppose anything which you think is renewable.

Example: our discussion about the Tesla grid-scale battery in Australia.

You were against it because you thought it was renewable, but 1) it wasn't actually renewable (it backed up a coal plant) 2) it wasn't subsidised 3) it was extremely profitable

Wind and solar are extremely profitable - lowest cost according to the IEA - but you wouldn't back them because of what they are, and you have a LONG track record of lying.

 

Edit: you're just going to say "if they were competitive, why don't they stop the subsidies then?" Forgetting that that question has been answered several times, because you're a boring troll.

 

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3 hours ago, olofscience said:

Absolute lie, you oppose anything which you think is renewable.

Example: our discussion about the Tesla grid-scale battery in Australia.

You were against it because you thought it was renewable, but 1) it wasn't actually renewable (it backed up a coal plant) 2) 

 

I think you mean it was backed up BY a coal plant.  

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3 hours ago, brenthutch said:

I think you mean it was backed up BY a coal plant.  

Wrong.

It was storing extra energy from the coal plant to release during peak times, to avoid overloading the coal plant, hence, it backs it up. The coal plant by itself couldn't handle the peaks until it was backed up by the grid scale battery.

The battery by itself doesn't produce any energy, it's just storage.

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1 hour ago, olofscience said:

It was storing extra energy from the coal plant to release during peak times, to avoid overloading the coal plant, hence, it backs it up. The coal plant by itself couldn't handle the peaks until it was backed up by the grid scale battery.

And this is going to happen more and more often as peak loads go up.  They are especially important for nuclear power plants, which really need to be run at close to 100% output all the time for maximum return on investment and best fuel economy.  Up until recently this wasn't possible since your average nuclear power plant puts out 1-2 gigawatts, and thus unless you can store a gigawatt-hour or so it's not worth it.  But with battery systems regularly exceeding 1GWHr now, that becomes very possible - and is becoming an alternative to peaker power plants.

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