lawrocket 3 #1 July 23, 2014 Alex Kozinski. Love the guy because he doesn't parse words. [Url]cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2014/07/21/14-16310.pdf[/url] Starting on page 2. Kozinsky argues that captial punishment is a barbaric act and that we should knock off the pretense of being humane. Time to make the death penalty uncomfortable. [Quote]Sure, firing squads can be messy,n but if we are willing to carry out executions, we should not shield ourselves from the reality that we are shedding human blood. If we, as a society, cannot stomach the splatter from an execution carried out by firing squad, then we shouldn't be carrying out executions at all. I am not philosophically opposed to capital punishment. Neither, I believe, is Kozinski. But I think he nails this. Maybe not his business writing a political discourse, but I think he said what needs to be said. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #2 July 23, 2014 lawrocket Alex Kozinski. Love the guy because he doesn't parse words. [Url]cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2014/07/21/14-16310.pdf[/url] Starting on page 2. Kozinsky argues that captial punishment is a barbaric act and that we should knock off the pretense of being humane. Time to make the death penalty uncomfortable. [Quote]Sure, firing squads can be messy,n but if we are willing to carry out executions, we should not shield ourselves from the reality that we are shedding human blood. If we, as a society, cannot stomach the splatter from an execution carried out by firing squad, then we shouldn't be carrying out executions at all. I am not philosophically opposed to capital punishment. Neither, I believe, is Kozinski. But I think he nails this. Maybe not his business writing a political discourse, but I think he said what needs to be said. What do you expect from someone on the 9th?This country hasn't had the stomach for the reality of capital punishment for over a hundred years. It's hard to believe they thought the chair was more humane than the gallows or the firing squad. It's not going to change now. I would even carry it further and say that all executions should be made available for public viewing, at least televise them. If we are going to execute in the name of the state, the state should be able to see the end result of the process. From what I've read, executions are very had on prison staff, they say you never execute the same man who committed the crime, especially when it's ten years later. I think the needle is used more for the benefit of the staff, than the benefit of the condemned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 July 23, 2014 Quote It's hard to believe they thought the chair was more humane than the gallows or the firing squad. Well, that's Edison for you. A gigantic dick promoting death in an effort to monopolize electrical distribution. Fascinating story really, but it does point out what a giant asshole he was.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #4 July 23, 2014 jclalor From what I've read, executions are very had on prison staff, they say you never execute the same man who committed the crime, especially when it's ten years later. Not sure if it's still done or done elsewhere, but when I worked for corrections in Virginia, death row was at one prison and the executions performed at another, with a transfer just prior, for this very reason.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #5 July 24, 2014 jclalor ***Alex Kozinski. Love the guy because he doesn't parse words. [Url]cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2014/07/21/14-16310.pdf[/url] Starting on page 2. Kozinsky argues that captial punishment is a barbaric act and that we should knock off the pretense of being humane. Time to make the death penalty uncomfortable. [Quote]Sure, firing squads can be messy,n but if we are willing to carry out executions, we should not shield ourselves from the reality that we are shedding human blood. If we, as a society, cannot stomach the splatter from an execution carried out by firing squad, then we shouldn't be carrying out executions at all. I am not philosophically opposed to capital punishment. Neither, I believe, is Kozinski. But I think he nails this. Maybe not his business writing a political discourse, but I think he said what needs to be said. What do you expect from someone on the 9th?This country hasn't had the stomach for the reality of capital punishment for over a hundred years. It's hard to believe they thought the chair was more humane than the gallows or the firing squad. It's not going to change now. I would even carry it further and say that all executions should be made available for public viewing, at least televise them. If we are going to execute in the name of the state, the state should be able to see the end result of the process. From what I've read, executions are very had on prison staff, they say you never execute the same man who committed the crime, especially when it's ten years later. I think the needle is used more for the benefit of the staff, than the benefit of the condemned. I'll have a large popcorn and a diet coke, please.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #6 July 24, 2014 skypuppy ******Alex Kozinski. Love the guy because he doesn't parse words. [Url]cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2014/07/21/14-16310.pdf[/url] Starting on page 2. Kozinsky argues that captial punishment is a barbaric act and that we should knock off the pretense of being humane. Time to make the death penalty uncomfortable. [Quote]Sure, firing squads can be messy,n but if we are willing to carry out executions, we should not shield ourselves from the reality that we are shedding human blood. If we, as a society, cannot stomach the splatter from an execution carried out by firing squad, then we shouldn't be carrying out executions at all. I am not philosophically opposed to capital punishment. Neither, I believe, is Kozinski. But I think he nails this. Maybe not his business writing a political discourse, but I think he said what needs to be said. What do you expect from someone on the 9th?This country hasn't had the stomach for the reality of capital punishment for over a hundred years. It's hard to believe they thought the chair was more humane than the gallows or the firing squad. It's not going to change now. I would even carry it further and say that all executions should be made available for public viewing, at least televise them. If we are going to execute in the name of the state, the state should be able to see the end result of the process. From what I've read, executions are very had on prison staff, they say you never execute the same man who committed the crime, especially when it's ten years later. I think the needle is used more for the benefit of the staff, than the benefit of the condemned. I'll have a large popcorn and a diet coke, please. Better to sneak the refreshments in, why pay those crazy arena prices? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GD64 1 #7 July 24, 2014 What troubles me is (just a guess on my part based on current trends) it's likely this perp has gotten more attention and coverage by the propagandists media spewing ruling cabal agenda's, than the deceased victim/s and their family. That is just upside down wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomerdog 0 #8 July 24, 2014 Justice Kozinski is a rare lone voice in the wilderness amidst a sea of judicial flakes and crackpots that is the 9th Circus err 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Rock on Justice Kozinski! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 201 #9 July 24, 2014 The point you're all missing here; time to make the thought of the death penalty more real for the perp. One of the reasons I don't favor the death penalty is it has lost (not sure it ever had) the deterrent factor it purports to possess. That and the fact that the governments of these states haven't displayed anywhere near the competence we are entrusting them with. Just put them in jail for life with no possibility for parole and be done with it. For most that would be a fate worse than death.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #10 July 24, 2014 That's why a judge has found capital punishment unconstitutional in California - because it isn't being used and thus serves no purpose. I don't understand why they need a multiple drug cocktail when 1000 mg (or even 500 mg) or morphine would kill them quickly. Start the person off with a hefty Xanax and it'll not only be quicker but will the condemned won't be too worried about it. When the states can't seem to do to others on purpose what Peaches Geldoff did to herself quite easily, it raises concerns. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #11 July 24, 2014 lawrocketThat's why a judge has found capital punishment unconstitutional in California - because it isn't being used and thus serves no purpose. I don't understand why they need a multiple drug cocktail when 1000 mg (or even 500 mg) or morphine would kill them quickly. Start the person off with a hefty Xanax and it'll not only be quicker but will the condemned won't be too worried about it. When the states can't seem to do to others on purpose what Peaches Geldoff did to herself quite easily, it raises concerns. There's no shortage of drugs that will kill a person very quickly, there's other factors. From what I understand, drug companies would be very Leary to have their drugs associated with executions, and will not supply any of these. Morphine can cause severe nausea, that could lead to aspiration and vomiting, which would not be very spectator friendly. A loading dose of Alprazolam could also be viewed as just a little bit too much fun for the condemned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 1 #12 July 24, 2014 Quote drug companies would be very Leary I see what you did there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites